“Listen Carefully it’s Actually Much Darker”: How the Left is Framing Free Speech as a Front for Fascism

[d0gbreath]

I'm not the one you need to convince.

Those with the need never listen.

 

[Marener]

What you are doing is making up excuses for your desire to force everyone to think, speak, and believe like you do.

There have been many in history who have done that.

Hitler
Stalin
Lenin
Pol Pot
Mao
Biden.

It has resulted in 100+ million dead in just the last century alone.

I'm just highlighting the absurdity that you're willing to cast off free speech for petty grievances about slander, but not for populism leading to authoritarianism and genocide.

It's a joke. It's all a joke.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm just highlighting the absurdity that you're willing to cast off free speech for petty grievances about slander, but not for populism leading to authoritarianism and genocide.

It's a joke. It's all a joke.

I'm doing neither.

Populism is still free speech and I have no desire to stop or quell it. Only ridicule it.

Authoritarianism and genocide are ALWAYS product of people who quash and silence speech and it almost ALWAYs leads to pogroms, genocide, and mass murder. The lessons if history are plain.

Every time you control and silence speech, whole peoples are killed and massacred.

I'll take free speech and the risks that come with it, every single day.

 

[Marener]

I'm doing neither.

Populism is still free speech and I have no desire to stop or quell it. Only ridicule it.

Authoritarianism and genocide are ALWAYS product of people who quash and silence speech and it almost ALWAYs leads to pogroms, genocide, and mass murder. The lessons if history are plain.

Every time you control and silence speech, whole peoples are killed and massacred.

I'll take free speech and the risks that come with it, every single day.

But you did want to restrict free speech.

It is NEVER acceptable to control who gets to say what. There are already far to many restrictions on speech in the US.

It should be limited to slander

 

[Darkwind]

But you did want to restrict free speech.

I do not.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Marxists gonna Marx.
These creatures need to be thoroughly DEFEATED.

We Won't Live Free Until the Democrats Live in Fear

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Authoritarians use free speech on their path to domination.

Exactly!

We must kill free speech so that authoritarians don't take power.

Because if authoritarians take power, they might do something bad, like kill free speech.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You’re confused. We are saying that fascists have used free speech to gain power. That’s true. And triggering to you.

Fascists drink beer, we must outlaw beer.

Fascists eat food, we must outlaw food.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I haven’t applied any restrictions period.

I’m merely pointing out that it’s not absurd to say that free speech can be used to promote illiberal ideologies.

Illiberal ideologies? Like men can't get pregnant?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What was silly about my post?

The silliness.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

What happens when the fascists use free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

If they use "free speech" to convince people then they are playing by the rules and have outsmarted those who cannot use "free speech" to convince people to choose to their ideology...the danger to democracy comes from those who seek regulation of speech to coerce and enforce adherence.

 

[hadit]

What happens when the fascists use free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

It's the very core of free speech to convince. Down the other road lies control of speech by the powers that be in the moment.

 

[Doc7505]

What happens when radical leftists restrict free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

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Wasn't that exactly what the Neo-Marxist Democrats were doing for the last for years? Their Quisling media lied to us, Socials media censored us an restricted the truth.

 

[Stryder50]

What happens when the fascists use free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

You've been here long enough you should know that one person's truth (pravda) is another person's lie (disinformation, fake news, etc.).

 

[Stryder50]

Good plan, but far from full proof.

Sometimes people are convinced that fascism is good.

Some people are convinced that socialism is good. Especially when blended with fascism.

 

[Stryder50]

True. But first they have to seize control of power, which requires persuading people with populist rhetoric.

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun (Chinese: 枪杆子里面出政权) is a phrase which was coined by Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong.

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Wikipedia

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