Long prison sentences are the only way to stop gun crime, ask this 9x felon...

[JoeB131]

The left here doesn't want to do that....single, teenage mothers raising generations of young males without fathers to teach them how to be adult men...is not something they want to address....

so, um, you think that in those other countries, where they have the same problem, but those man-children can't get guns, amazingly don't have these problems.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Changing them isn't the point....keeping them away from people is the point...they can't kill if they aren't around actual people....

Great, so how does this stop people like my former business associate who got pissed off at his wife one night?

How does this stop the 3 year old who shoots his brother because he thinks the gun is a toy?

How does this stop the depressed kid who's girlfriend j ust dumped him from taking his own life?

How does this stop the mentally deranged person with no criminal record up to that point from shooting up a school or theater?

You do realize the majority of violent crime is committed by the same people right?
The fact that the d-bag that was arrested nine times for felonies should be a clue.

 

[JoeB131]

You do realize the majority of violent crime is committed by the same people right?
The fact that the d-bag that was arrested nine times for felonies should be a clue.

How many of those 9 felonies involved killing someone? I would guess, none.

 

[2aguy]

Changing them isn't the point....keeping them away from people is the point...they can't kill if they aren't around actual people....

Great, so how does this stop people like my former business associate who got pissed off at his wife one night?

How does this stop the 3 year old who shoots his brother because he thinks the gun is a toy?

How does this stop the depressed kid who's girlfriend j ust dumped him from taking his own life?

How does this stop the mentally deranged person with no criminal record up to that point from shooting up a school or theater?

Moron.....of the 8,124 gun murders in this country in 2014 70-80% of the victims were felons with mutliple felonies......each one of your examples.....cannot be stopped by any law you want to enact..........

the suicide...will use the same thing the Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese use since they are not allowed to have guns by their government, but have far higher suicide rates than we do.....

The child who finds the gun....won't be prevented and with 74.2 million children in the United States a total of 48 were killed in accidental gun deaths in 2014.....

Rap your small, deranged mind around that number......and then realize you have no point...considering car accidents, drowning, falling and poisoning kill far more children than guns each year......

the mentally deranged person.....will not be stopped by gun laws saying they cannot have a gun....the British kid a few months ago, in a country that confiscated hand guns, ordered a hand gun on the Dark WEb....he got a glock 19 and enough ammo to murder more people than at Sandy Hook.....and was only caught because he posted about shooting up his former University online ......not one British gun control stopped him...his own stupidity did.....

Your domestic abusing friend.....he can murder his wife with a 9 dollar hatchet from Walmart...or a steak knife from the local grocery store.....

You have no leg to stand on.......we have drinking laws that do not stop drunk drivers...we arrest them when they drive drunk...we have laws against speeding, they do not stop people from speeding but allow us to punish them when they break the speeding laws.....

Try to post more intelligently......

 

[2aguy]

Well you have the biggest prison population in the world and are one of the few western nations to still have capital punishment.
Perhaps some reflection on that may help you to a solution.

No, it won't. 2AGuy lives in fear that the vast majority of us who don't own guns will stop putting up with the shit of the minority who do.

Moron......there are 357,000,000 million guns in private hands.....those gun owners who carry guns for self defense are more law abiding than other non carrying citizens and even sworn police officers........

 

[2aguy]

You do realize the majority of violent crime is committed by the same people right?
The fact that the d-bag that was arrested nine times for felonies should be a clue.

How many of those 9 felonies involved killing someone? I would guess, none.

If any of those felonies after the first one involved having an illegal gun they can be put away for 10 years...but prosecutors and judges do not hand out that sentence...then they get out and murder people......illegal guns in the hands of felons are the gateway crime to murder.....as our Former Chicago Police Superintendent said....

 

[2aguy]

Well you have the biggest prison population in the world and are one of the few western nations to still have capital punishment.
Perhaps some reflection on that may help you to a solution.

We don't execute enough killers......there is no fear of the death penalty......

 

[2aguy]

Perhaps looking at the causes of crime might be an idea ?

The left here doesn't want to do that....single, teenage mothers raising generations of young males without fathers to teach them how to be adult men...is not something they want to address....

If you have a dog eat dog society then somebody is going to get bitten.
Perhaps you all need to be nicer to each other ?

We are incredibly good to each other.....our violent crime is confined to very tiny areas of our major cities...run by the democrat party......stay out of those few neighborhoods, and you chance of victimization decreases dramatically....

In Chicago, a city of 3 million people, the police have a list of 1,300 known criminals who are the ones committing all the crime.......stay away from them and you are okay....dittos all the other cities too.....

 

[JoeB131]

Moron.....of the 8,124 gun murders in this country in 2014 70-80% of the victims were felons with mutliple felonies......each one of your examples.....cannot be stopped by any law you want to enact.........

well, no. They could be stopped and most homicides, the victim knows his killer.

Look out everyone, he's about to spooge a bunch of NRA Talking points.

 

[JoeB131]

We don't execute enough killers......there is no fear of the death penalty......

yet- again, Germany, Italy, the UK, France have all BANNED the death Penalty and they don't have anywhere near our crime rates.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron......there are 357,000,000 million guns in private hands.....those gun owners who carry guns for self defense are more law abiding than other non carrying citizens and even sworn police officers........

That's a "Leper with the most fingers" kind of qualification, isn't it?

33,000 deaths a year.

We banned lawn darts after a few dozen.

 

[2aguy]

Moron.....of the 8,124 gun murders in this country in 2014 70-80% of the victims were felons with mutliple felonies......each one of your examples.....cannot be stopped by any law you want to enact.........

well, no. They could be stopped and most homicides, the victim knows his killer.

Look out everyone, he's about to spooge a bunch of NRA Talking points.

Yes moron...that is what the 70-80% points out....criminals murdering other criminals either in the act of a crime or because they are associatin with other criminals....

Joe....please...show me an NRA talking point...I link all of my sources....the CDC, FBI, mother jones, slate, salon.....please....show me one NRA talking point you mental midget........

 

[2aguy]

We don't execute enough killers......there is no fear of the death penalty......

yet- again, Germany, Italy, the UK, France have all BANNED the death Penalty and they don't have anywhere near our crime rates.

Again...their criminals do not commit murder at the rate ours do......they have access to guns, they have access to knives but they simply don't commit murder.....they stab, beat, rob and rape, but unlike our criminals, they don't murder each other over insults on facebook....

And again...that is changing...their violent crime rate was up 27% last year...how do you explain that? Their gun crime rate was up 4% last year...how do you explain that ? Twit.

 

[2aguy]

Moron......there are 357,000,000 million guns in private hands.....those gun owners who carry guns for self defense are more law abiding than other non carrying citizens and even sworn police officers........

That's a "Leper with the most fingers" kind of qualification, isn't it?

33,000 deaths a year.

We banned lawn darts after a few dozen.

Then you should be all for getting rid of cars...since car accidents kill a lot more people than the intentional, illegal use of guns by career criminals who cannot legally own or carry them.....


Please show me where any of this is from the NRA you moron.

2013.......35,369 accidental car deaths....

2014...intentional, illegal use of guns to commit murder, 8,124.

Number of times Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and save lives...according to bill clinton....1,500,000 million times each year.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Here are the stats on some common types of death....it would be better to start a crusade to teach people how to walk upright...and save them from falling deaths...you would save more lives.....

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

guns, drowning and poisoning....

If you cared about people....you would push to ban the following...


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505

Accidental gun deaths of children under 14 in 2013....in a country with 74.2 million children in 2010...

Under 1 year old: 3

1-4 years old: 27

5-14 years old: 39

Total: 69 ( in a country of 320 million people)
Gun Suicide: 21,175
Non gun suicide: 19,974



http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505
So...accidental gun deaths have been coming down as more people own and carry guns for self defense....now 13 million people actually carry guns for self defense......on their person, and the accidental gun death rate is going down, not up....

 

[koshergrl]

Put criminals in prison and put lunatics in the asylums. Mass shootings perpetrated by non Muslims in America would stop.

But progressives won't do that. They are the criminals and lunatics...they get woodies when ppl die at the hands of some depraved ding dong.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You do realize the majority of violent crime is committed by the same people right?
The fact that the d-bag that was arrested nine times for felonies should be a clue.

How many of those 9 felonies involved killing someone? I would guess, none.

Illegal weapons charges. It was only a matter of time.
Liberals....soft on crime then they cry about gun violence.

 

[JoeB131]

Again...their criminals do not commit murder at the rate ours do......they have access to guns, they have access to knives but they simply don't commit murder.....they stab, beat, rob and rape, but unlike our criminals, they don't murder each other over insults on facebook....

And again...that is changing...their violent crime rate was up 27% last year...how do you explain that? Their gun crime rate was up 4% last year...how do you explain that ? Twit.

Here's how I explain it. Any statistic you cite is Bovine Excrement, and can be ignored.

You prove Disraeli's assertion that mendacity comes in three forms, Lie, Damned Lies and Statistics.

 

[JoeB131]

Illegal weapons charges. It was only a matter of time.
Liberals....soft on crime then they cry about gun violence.

So he didn't actually commit a violent crime, then. He was just excercising his 2nd Amendment "Rights"

Silly Darkie, Rights are for White People

Actually, if anyone has made gun possession an infraction, it is the gun lobby.

Out here in the real world. We have 2 million Americans in prison and another 7 million on probation or parole.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Illegal weapons charges. It was only a matter of time.
Liberals....soft on crime then they cry about gun violence.

So he didn't actually commit a violent crime, then. He was just excercising his 2nd Amendment "Rights"

Silly Darkie, Rights are for White People

Actually, if anyone has made gun possession an infraction, it is the gun lobby.

Out here in the real world. We have 2 million Americans in prison and another 7 million on probation or parole.

Felons are not allowed to carry a firearm....next.

 

[JoeB131]

Felons are not allowed to carry a firearm....next.

wait a minute, aren't you kind of contradicting yourself?

If gun ownership is truly a right granted by God and a bunch of Slave-owners 230 years ago, why can't felons have guns. It should be as basic to them as Freedom of Religion, speech, right to trial, and all the other things that felons still have a "right" to have.

On the other hand, if you think there should be reasonable restrictions on who should be able to own a gun, then welcome to the dark side, baby.