Mass school shootings since 1966, 56years? 13….

[2aguy]

Stupid. Regulate the shit out of them. Rule number one, keep them out of the hands of any group that supports the take-over of this country to force in a piece of shit for a dictator. Rule number two, take the guns away from the supporters of that want to be dictator. We have to be blithering idiots not to do that. They have no rights, you can't be in support of or any part of destroying our country and democracy and still be able to get a gun.

Hey.......have you been reading the nazi party handbook from Germany in the 1920s....they took guns away from the Jews....who they said were trying to do all kinds of bad things...they also took guns away from their political enemies.....

Then they murdered 15 million men, women and children...

Did you get to that part yet?

 

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[2aguy]

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Yep.........and Americans use those guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent criminals....according to the CDC, or 1.5 million times a year, according to the Dept. of Justice, or the most thorough look at the topic, 2.5 million times a year according to Gary Kleck's famous research....

 

[2aguy]

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Yeah...until you explain each law to them.......

When you just say "do something," they give you that photo...give them the truth, and they don't support that crap.

 

[2aguy]

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Wait....you left off the 15 million people killed by the governments of Europe after they did what you say....gave up their guns....

And you left off that those countries had low gun murder rates before they banned guns, and now have the same and rising gun murder rates after they banned guns.....

 

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[2aguy]

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Like I said.....

If you explain each of those things, people stop supporting them....

That is why you don't explain them to the people you ask........

 

[jbander]

There have been 27 school shootings this year. There have been 119 school shootings since 2018, when Education Week began tracking such incidents. The highest number of shootings, 34, occurred last year. There were 10 shootings in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.

 

[jbander]

LIKE I SAID, MORE LIKELY TO SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT OR NEIGHBOR Than SHOOTING SOMEONE PROTECTING YOURSELF

 

[2aguy]

There have been 27 school shootings this year. There have been 119 school shootings since 2018, when Education Week began tracking such incidents. The highest number of shootings, 34, occurred last year. There were 10 shootings in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.

No...there haven't....again.....there have been 13 mass school shooting since 1966...

The problem here is that three very differently defined terms are being used somewhat incautiously and interchangeably: school shooting, mass shooting, and mass school shooting. Uvalde was a mass school shooting; the 26 previous tragedies at schools this year were not.
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Many of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.
Uvalde is a mass school shooting. This is defined in different ways too: an incident in which at least four people (some counters make it three) are shot and/or killed. The Gun Violence Archive counts incidents in which at least four people were shot. Under this definition, many incidents of street crime and domestic violence count as mass shootings, even if no deaths result. A stricter tally of mass school shootings, conductedby criminologists for Scientific American, only includes incidents where the shootings resulted in at least four deaths. Using their criteria, the number of mass school shootings in the U.S. since the year 1966 is 13. These crimes claimed the lives of 146 people in total.

There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year

Don't conflate mass shootings with school shootings.

reason.com

 

[jbander]

So far, in 2021 there have been at least 259 unintentional shootings by children, resulting in 104 deaths and 168 injuries nationally, according to the group's #NotAnAccident Index. Everytown is a U.S. nonprofit that advocates for gun control.

 

[2aguy]

LIKE I SAID, MORE LIKELY TO SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT OR NEIGHBOR Than SHOOTING SOMEONE PROTECTING YOURSELF
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Yes.....you need to make the forest so people can't see the trees.....

Here....

Keep in mind.....

330 million Americans

600 million guns in private hands....

Over 20 million people can legally carry guns in public for self defense...

Accidental gun deaths......by year....

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

2020....585
2019...486
2018.....458
2017...486
2016 495
2015...489http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe

2014.....461

2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

 

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[2aguy]

So far, in 2021 there have been at least 259 unintentional shootings by children, resulting in 104 deaths and 168 injuries nationally, according to the group's #NotAnAccident Index. Everytown is a U.S. nonprofit that advocates for gun control.

Everytown is a rabid, dishonest anti-gun group....

State the age that quailfies as "Children," please....

Do you consider a 15, 16, 17. 18 year old gang member as a "Child," in any normal sense of the word?

From your everytown link...

child under 18 unintentionally

 

[2aguy]

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Those aren't mass public shootings....

Again...mother jones....

Moderators...I am responding to his chart.......

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation




330 million Americans......how many committed mass public shootings in 2021....

6

How many did they murder....

43

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...

So....6 people in a country of over 330 million committed mass public shootings....and for this, you think we should ban 600 million guns...?


Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[2aguy]

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Okay....

Explain how any of those items would have stopped the Texas shooter...please...go ahead...

Background check expansion....?

He passed the background check...the federal background check.

Criminals bypass background checks by using straw buyers....

Two little facts that most uninformed Americans don't understand, which is why they answer poll questions the way they do..

 

[rightwinger]

Hey.......have you been reading the nazi party handbook from Germany in the 1920s....they took guns away from the Jews....who they said were trying to do all kinds of bad things...they also took guns away from their political enemies.....

Then they murdered 15 million men, women and children...

Did you get to that part yet?

Jews in other countries had guns
Didn‘t help them

 

[eagle1462010]

There have been 27 school shootings this year. There have been 119 school shootings since 2018, when Education Week began tracking such incidents. The highest number of shootings, 34, occurred last year. There were 10 shootings in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.

Lol Read a correction Ladd Stadium. That place and places prichard are high crime areas. Someone, gangs drugs are shooting each other all the time

That is not a mass shooting event.