More Pandering - Harris Wants To Forgive Medical Debt

[Lisa558]

I would actually be in favor of hospitals forgiving excess amounts IF the patient had good health insurance without a break for their entire adult lives. The pricing is really ridiculous - I was in the ER and asked for a blanket because it was cold in there, and the bill charged $25 for a “blanket rental” fee. And all told, the bill came to $16,000 - and I didn’t even stay overnight or have a procedure!

So this is where the peoblem lies. But to expect taxpayers to pick up the bill when a hospital overcharged a patient who never bothered to get health insurance, sorry.

If someone’s house burned down, and he never bought house insurance, would taxpayers be asked to cover the cost?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The retiree who paid into the system.......is sucking off the government tit ?

What are you stupid ?

Yes of course, unless they are a rich person who met their cap most of their life.

Which is fine.

 

[Billo_Really]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/21/harris-wants-to-forgive-medical-debt-for-millions-of-americans.html

Vice President Kamala Harris wants to forgive medical debt for millions of Americans.

The economic plan Harris rolled out last week notes that the Democratic presidential nominee and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, would work with states to relieve people of their medical debt and “to help them avoid accumulating such debt in the future, because no one should go bankrupt just because they had the misfortune of becoming sick or hurt.”

Some 15 million Americans have medical bills on their credit reports, according to Consumer Financial Protection Bureau research published in April. People in the U.S. owe at least $220 billion in medical debt, a February KFF analysis found.

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Yes sireeee.

I will going to the doctor and running up all kinds of bills in anticipation of Hindenburg Harris paying them off.

They are not even trying to hide the pandering.

Not to mention government picking winners and losers.

You know, the person who honors their debts vs those who think the world owes them something.

And all that.

And, of course, how will she do it ? Is she going to tell the medical industry......tough shit or is she going to pay them off with your money and thus increase our debt ?

Oh yeah, it costs $400 for an x-ray, let's be punished for that on our credit report?

 

[bendog]

Why do you think you are entitled to have the government force people to pay your medical bills?

YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR UNPAID BILLS AND THE GOVT IS NOT CAUSING IT. I REALIZE YOU LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD (ONE OF CARD BOARD CUTOUTS) THAN THE REST OF US.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh yeah, it costs $400 for an x-ray, let's be punished for that on our credit report?

So the clinic needs to lower their price. Why should they get to rip people off, and then have taxpayers cover the cost?

In my example above, at the ER, the ER doctor came in to get my symptoms - took a total of five minutes, tops. Then an hour later, he came in to tell me the results of the CAT scan - maybe three minutes.

The bill for 8 minutes of the doctor’s time? $1600.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So the clinic needs to lower their price.

The conservative nonsolution to everything they pretend to care about, but don't actually care about.

Point and say 'do better'.

These fools are still teaching abstinence.

 

[M14 Shooter]

YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING....

Mkay... now address the question:
Why do you think you are entitled to have the government force people to pay your medical bills?

 

[HikerGuy83]

YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR UNPAID BILLS AND THE GOVT IS NOT CAUSING IT

The government requires you to treat people at the E.R.

How are they not causing it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

So the clinic needs to lower their price. Why should they get to rip people off, and then have taxpayers cover the cost?

In my example above, at the ER, the ER doctor came in to get my symptoms - took a total of five minutes, tops. Then an hour later, he came in to tell me the results of the CAT scan - maybe three minutes.

The bill for 8 minutes of the doctor’s time? $1600.

Got something in my eye. I was concerned as it was not getting out.

Went to the hospital...they made me check in at the ER.

Bill to my insurance for two hours and some eye drops.....8,000.

 

[Lisa558]

Got something in my eye. I was concerned as it was not getting out.

Went to the hospital...they made me check in at the ER.

Bill to my insurance for two hours and some eye drops.....8,000.

Obama’s insurance scheme did nothing to lower the actual, ridiculously inflated cost of medical care. All it did was shift the burden around - largely onto the moderate earners.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Obama’s insurance scheme did nothing to lower the actual, ridiculously inflated cost of medical care

Wrong, naturally. Healthcare costs immediately started increasing more slowly, because of the ACA.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Folks this thread is more about Harris' stupid idea from the standpoint of equality.

Why should some have their bills forgiven and others not ?

I want my bills forgiven that i struggled to pay 15 years ago. Why should people today get something I didn't.

Don't like Bankruptcy....figure something else out.

I had a friend. No insurance. Had to make an E.R. visit.

Got a bill for 14,000. No way she would ever pay that off.

She negotiated it down to 4,000. She took a second job and paid it off.

Very honorable.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Why do you think you are entitled to have the government force people to pay your medical bills?

1. First World country not third world country
2. We live in society.
3. Enlightened self interest. Countries with extreme disparities of wealth are countries where social unrest and revolutions are common.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Folks this thread is more about Harris' stupid idea from the standpoint of equality.

Why should some have their bills forgiven and others not ?

So you're really for medical care for all then?

 

[Billo_Really]

So the clinic needs to lower their price. Why should they get to rip people off, and then have taxpayers cover the cost?

In my example above, at the ER, the ER doctor came in to get my symptoms - took a total of five minutes, tops. Then an hour later, he came in to tell me the results of the CAT scan - maybe three minutes.

The bill for 8 minutes of the doctor’s time? $1600.

I spent one night in UCI hospital and it cost $29,000!

That is fucking obscene!

 

[WEATHER53]

The point of this thread was not about the medical stuff as much as it is that she is pandering.

She was "a key player in Biden's policy" (someone had to be, the wilted Celery Stalk certainly wasn't).

And now she has this idea ?

She is throwing this shit at us just before the election so people can't notice the smell before they vote.

It's pandering pure pandering.

Fuck her for doing it.

I have problems with our current system.

But she is using people's distress to buy votes.

More cash for votes
That’s all it is

 

[WEATHER53]

So you're really for medical care for all then?

We already have medical care for all
It’s just not free commie

 

[Zincwarrior]

More cash for votes
That’s all it is

Again it would not be an issue if we were like every other First World nation.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We already have medical care for all
It’s just not free commie

If its good enough for Pakistan its good enough for the US!

 

[M14 Shooter]

1. First World country not third world country
2. We live in society.
3. Enlightened self interest. Countries with extreme disparities of wealth are countries where social unrest and revolutions are common.

Why do you believe these things entitle you to other people's money?