New York Times Finds 90% of Positive PCR Tests for COVID May Have Been False

[munkle]

The cult never does their own research.

Can you imagine being so blinded by TDS that you refuse to acknowledge the truth about COVID and the shot?

The flu came back this winter. WEIRD!

FLU JUST TOOK A 3 YEAR VACATION…AND NOW IT IS BACK!

Cult cannot explain that. It does not fit theitr story.

The test was a VIRUS test, not a COVID test. Flu was positive for COVID.

What purpose does it serve to keep your head in the sand?

Interesting thing is the New York Times is on of the cult's sources that they believe. Now they will blow a circuit.

 

[munkle]

The cult never does their own research.

Can you imagine being so blinded by TDS that you refuse to acknowledge the truth about COVID and the shot?

The flu came back this winter. WEIRD!

FLU JUST TOOK A 3 YEAR VACATION…AND NOW IT IS BACK!

Cult cannot explain that. It does not fit theitr story.

The test was a VIRUS test, not a COVID test. Flu was positive for COVID.

What purpose does it serve to keep your head in the sand?

The president of Tanzania opted out of the whole covid narrative after he sent sample from a goat and a pawpaw fruit to a covid test lab, an they came back positive. He died suddenly in March 2021.

Tanzania coronavirus kits raise suspicion after goat and pawpaw test positive

'There is something happening. I said before we should not accept that every aid is meant to be good for this nation,' says president

www.independent.co.uk

Tanzania's Covid-denying president, John Magufuli, dies aged 61

Leader’s death follows two-week absence from public life that prompted rumours he had virus

www.theguardian.com

 

[munkle]

The president of Tanzania opted out of the whole covid narrative after he sent sample from a goat and a pawpaw fruit to a covid test lab, an they came back positive. He died suddenly in March 2021.

Tanzania coronavirus kits raise suspicion after goat and pawpaw test positive

'There is something happening. I said before we should not accept that every aid is meant to be good for this nation,' says president

www.independent.co.uk

Tanzania's Covid-denying president, John Magufuli, dies aged 61

Leader’s death follows two-week absence from public life that prompted rumours he had virus

www.theguardian.com

LOL am loving the Covid cultists' crickets.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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[ColonelAngus]

LOL am loving the Covid cultists' crickets.

It is so bizarre, huh?

The silence is deafening.

They sure were not silent about saying people should be fired and denied medical care if they refused to participate in a mass human trial of an untested experimental gene therapy shot.

By the way, the gif of Biden and that young girl in your sig is vomitous.

Never one word from the cult about Biden’s fetish for CHILDREN. It is sick.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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I always thought it was kinda strange that when Covid came along…flu deaths dropped to almost zero and Covid deaths went up…they said it was because “social distancing and being locked at home caused fewer flu deaths”…

…..but if that’s the case..wouldn’t there have been close to zero COVID deaths too? So, if people were around each other to catch Covid and die from it, wouldn’t they also be exposed to the flu virus?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I always thought it was kinda strange that when Covid came along…flu deaths dropped to almost zero and Covid deaths went up…they said it was because “social distancing and being locked at home caused fewer flu deaths”…

…..but if that’s the case..wouldn’t there have been close to zero COVID deaths too? So, if people were around each other to catch Covid and die from it, wouldn’t they also be exposed to the flu virus?

It’s the result they wanted. Not enough deaths really but Faucci got what he paid for. A disease he funded and released then he got to be the most important person of the moment. It didn’t go far enough though. The NIH really wanted us to still be in lock downs with the ability to work only with their approval.

They’ll get it done next time. Their sending a lot of cash to the Chinese labs and will expect a payout soon.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I'll never forget the dystopian view of electronic signs on the Long Island Expressway reading:
WEAR A MASK
Unreal.

 

[munkle]

I'll never forget the dystopian view of electronic signs on the Long Island Expressway reading:
WEAR A MASK
Unreal.

And people believed that crap. For a 99.8% recovery rate bug.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Catturd ™

We were right about the lab leak.
We were right about natural immunity.
We were right about masks.
We were right about lockdowns
.We were right about the vaccines
.We were right about boosters
. We were right about them faking COVID numbers
.We were right about the deadly hospital protocol
.We were right about ivermectin
.We were right about evil Dr. Fauci
.We were right about the evil WHO.
We were right about it being a world power grab

Guess who was wrong about everything?

Yep the government sheep "TrUsT tHe sCieNCe" cult.

Catturd is awesome.

 

[munkle]

It’s the result they wanted. Not enough deaths really but Faucci got what he paid for. A disease he funded and released then he got to be the most important person of the moment. It didn’t go far enough though. The NIH really wanted us to still be in lock downs with the ability to work only with their approval.

They’ll get it done next time. Their sending a lot of cash to the Chinese labs and will expect a payout soon.

Why isn't this at the top of CNN every day that the entire "pandemic," and the brutal forced injection of toxic agents, was based on a lie?

 

[OldFlame]

This is the famous (pay-walled) NYT article never reported anywhere but the Internet, and even there it is hard to find. Your best bet is search engine Yandex.

The FDA gave no guidance on PCR threshold settings. This was left up to states and local health authorities.

The number of new cases was the top of the news every day. On these, lockdowns, isolation policies, and controversial treatments like Remdesivir were based.

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New York Times Finds 90% of Positive PCR Tests for COVID May Have Been False

This is the famous NYT article known to all anti-COVID vaxers but never reported anywhere but the Internet, and even there it is hard to find. Your best bet is search engine Yandex. The FDA gave no…

coronanews123.wordpress.com

Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.

By Apoorva Mandavilli
Published Aug. 29, 2020
Updated July 3, 2021

"Some of the nation’s leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States: The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus.

Most of these people are not likely to be contagious, and identifying them may contribute to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time. But researchers say the solution is not to test less, or to skip testing people without symptoms, as recently suggested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Instead, new data underscore the need for more widespread use of rapid tests, even if they are less sensitive.

“The decision not to test asymptomatic people is just really backward,” said Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, referring to the C.D.C. recommendation.


“In fact, we should be ramping up testing of all different people,” he said, “but we have to do it through whole different mechanisms.”

In what may be a step in this direction, the Trump administration announced on Thursday that it would purchase 150 million rapid tests.

The most widely used diagnostic test for the new coronavirus, called a PCR test, provides a simple yes-no answer to the question of whether a patient is infected.

But similar PCR tests for other viruses do offer some sense of how contagious an infected patient may be: The results may include a rough estimate of the amount of virus in the patient’s body.

“We’ve been using one type of data for everything, and that is just plus or minus — that’s all,” Dr. Mina said. “We’re using that for clinical diagnostics, for public health, for policy decision-making.”



But yes-no isn’t good enough, he added. It’s the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient’s next steps. “It’s really irresponsible, I think, to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue,” Dr. Mina said.


The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.

This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.

In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.


One solution would be to adjust the cycle threshold used now to decide that a patient is infected. Most tests set the limit at 40, a few at 37. This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles, or 37, to detect the virus.

Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less. Those changes would mean the amount of genetic material in a patient’s sample would have to be 100-fold to 1,000-fold that of the current standard for the test to return a positive result — at least, one worth acting on.


“It’s just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests, that they’re just returning a positive or a negative,” one virologist said.Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times

The Food and Drug Administration said in an emailed statement that it does not specify the cycle threshold ranges used to determine who is positive, and that “commercial manufacturers and laboratories set their own.”


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is examining the use of cycle threshold measures “for policy decisions.” The agency said it would need to collaborate with the F.D.A. and with device manufacturers to ensure the measures “can be used properly and with assurance that we know what they mean.”

The C.D.C.’s own calculations suggest that it is extremely difficult to detect any live virus in a sample above a threshold of 33 cycles. Officials at some state labs said the C.D.C. had not asked them to note threshold values or to share them with contact-tracing organizations.

For example, North Carolina’s state lab uses the Thermo Fisher coronavirus test, which automatically classifies results based on a cutoff of 37 cycles. A spokeswoman for the lab said testers did not have access to the precise numbers.

This amounts to an enormous missed opportunity to learn more about the disease, some experts said.

“It’s just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests — that they’re just returning a positive or a negative,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York.


“It would be useful information to know if somebody’s positive, whether they have a high viral load or a low viral load,” she added.

Officials at the Wadsworth Center, New York’s state lab, have access to C.T. values from tests they have processed, and analyzed their numbers at The Times’s request. In July, the lab identified 872 positive tests, based on a threshold of 40 cycles.

With a cutoff of 35, about 43 percent of those tests would no longer qualify as positive. About 63 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30.

In Massachusetts, from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been deemed negative if the threshold were 30 cycles, Dr. Mina said. “I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced, not one,” he said.

Other experts informed of these numbers were stunned.

“I’m really shocked that it could be that high — the proportion of people with high C.T. value results,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. “Boy, does it really change the way we need to be thinking about testing.”


Dr. Jha said he had thought of the PCR test as a problem because it cannot scale to the volume, frequency or speed of tests needed. “But what I am realizing is that a really substantial part of the problem is that we’re not even testing the people who we need to be testing,” he said.

The number of people with positive results who aren’t infectious is particularly concerning, said Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories. “That worries me a lot, just because it’s so high,” he said, adding that the organization intended to meet with Dr. Mina to discuss the issue...."

Why didn't they know that when it was happening, someone was told to create those tests with the cycles set to what they were, and whoever it was knew exactly what they were doing. This was another thing that came out back then that was suppressed and called a 'conspiracy theory'.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Why isn't this at the top of CNN every day that the entire "pandemic," and the brutal forced injection of toxic agents, was based on a lie?

They’re in on the lie.

 

[munkle]

Why didn't they know that when it was happening, someone was told to create those tests with the cycles set to what they were, and whoever it was knew exactly what they were doing. This was another thing that came out back then that was suppressed and called a 'conspiracy theory'.

Exactly.

 

[Lesh]

I always thought it was kinda strange that when Covid came along…flu deaths dropped to almost zero and Covid deaths went up…they said it was because “social distancing and being locked at home caused fewer flu deaths”…

…..but if that’s the case..wouldn’t there have been close to zero COVID deaths too? So, if people were around each other to catch Covid and die from it, wouldn’t they also be exposed to the flu virus?

What’s so strange? Social distancing and mask wearing hand sanitizing will do that

And no. The tests weren’t false

They were more sensitive than necessary

Maybe

 

[LeroyDumonde]

If you were "right" about all of this stuff, why did over 1.2 million Americans die. Why are 50,000 people still dying every year from covid. MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

IF YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING WHY ARE SO AMERICANS DEAD??????

Your numbers are fake, that's why. 1.2 million Americans died from any cause and tested positive for Covid using a test with a 90% false positive rate. So 120,000 Americans died with Covid and some fraction of that died from Covid. Most of these so-called Covid deaths were people who were already above the average life expectancy and had two or more comorbidities and the cause of death was unknown but assumed to be Covid. Those of us who act6ually did our own research knew all this in 2020. The science was never of the side of the Covid hystericists.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What’s so strange? Social distancing and mask wearing hand sanitizing will do that

And no. The tests weren’t false

They were more sensitive than necessary

Maybe

lol, so if all that managed to wipe out flu deaths, then why didn’t it work for Covid.

If people were able to get Covid and die from Covid, they would have just as easily gotten the flue and died from that. Social distancing and masking had no effect on stopping the spread. The Covid injection did not work on the flu virus. So the fact that flu deaths dropped to zero when Covid came around was just strange…to strange to believe. Combine that with all these people who died for other causes (maybe flu) but were marked as having died FROM Covid instead of dying WITH Covid.

There was some fudging of the numbers because Covid was way too lucrative for these hospitals. When you tell them you will give them $30,000 per Covid patient they treat…that incentivizes them to list as many people as having Covid as possible.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This is the famous (pay-walled) NYT article never reported anywhere but the Internet, and even there it is hard to find. Your best bet is search engine Yandex.

The FDA gave no guidance on PCR threshold settings. This was left up to states and local health authorities.

The number of new cases was the top of the news every day. On these, lockdowns, isolation policies, and controversial treatments like Remdesivir were based.
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"may have" is the problem. No evidence.

 

[munkle]

"may have" is the problem. No evidence.

"May have" is not the same as no evidence. A man's footprint was found in the home of the victim. That is "evidence" that he is the killer, but it may not be conclusive evidence.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

munkle, allegations unsupported convincingly by your evidence,