New York Times…lying about guns again…...

[2aguy]

Never, ever trust anti gun extremists…..facts, reality and the truth show that they are wrong…so the only way they can push their agenda is to lie about the facts, reality and the truth….

A case in point….

New York Times again using the bogus Violence Policy Center data - Crime Prevention Research Center

The New York Times continues its reliance on the Violence Policy Center’s discussion about concealed handgun permit holders.

since 2007, at least 763 people have been killed in 579 shootings that did not involve self-defense.

When the New York Times cited this source in February we had this piece at Fox.

The VPC keeps a record of permit holder abuses in each state. Take the claimed worst state, Michigan. The VPC cites state police and media reports indicating that permit holders committed 277 suicides or murders during the period from 2007 through 2015 (217 suicides and 60 murders). If accurate, a 38 percent share of all 722 deaths nationwide that the VPC attributed to permitted concealed handguns occurred in Michigan.

But suicides are not in any meaningful way linked to the act of carrying a permitted concealed handgun outside of one’s home. The Michigan State Police reports it does not collect information on how the suicides were committed, just that permit holders committed suicide.

Interestingly, the 2013 suicide rate among Michigan permit holders (6.2 per 100,000 permit holders) is lower than the rate among the general adult population (16.59). Typically, suicides — with or without guns — take place at home. So, again, what do these numbers have to do with the concealed-carry debate? . . .

All in all, the VPC has managed to at least triple-count the true number of cases of permit holders killing people. Furthermore, the vast majority of these killings were suicides, or legitimate self-defense shootings. . . .

 

[Sallow]

S'funny. The NRA/Conservatives/Republican blocks the Federal Government/CDC from doing any meaningful research into gun deaths and THEN you guys question the veracity of outside groups that attempt to get metrics on this..

 

[Steven_R]

So, by their own accounting there are fewer than 100 per year. In a country with 100,000,000+ gun owners.

Well, it's certainly an epidemic.

Let's just get right down to it. People that want to disarm the law abiding are in one of three camps:

1) The Feels who can't wrap their heads around just how small the numbers of gun deaths are and just need to "do something".
2) Those who understand that feral minorities are the vast majority of shooters, but can't bring themselves to make the argument that maybe we need to do something about that problem. It's just easier to say it's all the mentally ill or racist right-wingers, so let's disarm everyone.
3) Those who have a political agenda and know enough history to think if the plebs aren't disarmed before they really pass the laws they want they might end up hanging from lamp-posts.