No Federal Charges Against Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting.

Law enforcement officers seldom use restraint when they've already yelled "Show me your hands" and you reach into your waistband. The kid fucked up. His parents should have taught him better.
You don't use vice to play with a kid, let on he represents a “threat” to you, and murder him just because you can get away with it according to your police academy training minus the Constitution. The Democrat “career prosecutors” -- along with their abortionist friends at the doctor's office -- have proven that they too are child-killers.
 
Law enforcement officers seldom use restraint when they've already yelled "Show me your hands" and you reach into your waistband. The kid fucked up. His parents should have taught him better.

The father is never mentioned when stories about the case were written locally here. The gun came with a rubber fluorescent cover on the gun sight to indicate it was indeed a toy. The kid ripped it off so it looked more like a real gun.
 
CLEVELAND (WJW)– The U.S. Department of Justice closed its independent investigation into the deadly shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The Justice Department said it found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal charges against Cleveland Division of Police Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. Rice’s family was notified of the decision on Monday.

“Although Tamir Rice’s death is tragic, the evidence does not meet these substantial evidentiary requirements. In light of this, and for the reasons explained below, career federal prosecutors with both the Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office concluded that this matter is not a prosecutable violation of the federal statutes,” the DOJ said in a news release on Tuesday.

The DOJ said video of the incident is time-lapsed, grainy and doesn’t have audio so Rice’s hands are not visible at relevant times. Federal investigators also said Loehmann and Garmback gave several statements and consistently repeated main points.

Rice was shot and killed at Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard in Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2014 after a person called 911 reporting seeing a person with a gun. The caller said the individual was, “probably a juvenile” and the gun was, “probably fake.” That information was not passed along to the officers, according to the investigation.

Police said Loehmann opened fire when he said the boy reached towards his waistband. The gun turned out to be an airsoft pistol.


Loehmann was fired from the Cleveland Division of Police in 2017 for lying on his police application, not the deadly shooting. His termination, though appealed, was upheld by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.


There is a divide on whether the officer was in his right to shoot the 5'9" 195lbs 12 year old. It's mostly divided on party lines: the cop haters vs the cop supporters. In spite of the grand jury ruling not to indict officer Loehmann, the city still made his mother rich by handing her 5 million taxpayer dollars, which could have been used for much better things for the citizens. Now, this is a second ruling that the officers did nothing illegal, while some will say Loehmann was still wrong. Before the cop haters chime in and say the kid only had a toy, here is a picture of the real gun, and the replica the toy was made from. Can you tell the difference, especially in a split seconds time?


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The cop was warned over the radio that there was a teen waving a fake pistol. What's more egregious here is the fact that the cop shot him as he was opening the door getting out of the car. Barely two seconds after they arrived. The boy never leveled the toy at the officer. The officer just fired and that was it.

I see nothing in the deposition that indicates the officers were "warned over the radio that there was a teen waving a fake pistol."

A caller did report to the 911 operator " it’s probably fake, but you know what? He’s scaring the shit out of me”, but the word "fake" was not forwarded to the officers.

So be it. Still doesn't matter. Barely two seconds after arrival, getting out of the car without a pistol leveled at him, the cop fired. Again, as a cop, you're supposed to exhibit some kind of judgement and maybe a little restraint.
Neither were put forward.

Law enforcement officers seldom use restraint when they've already yelled "Show me your hands" and you reach into your waistband. The kid fucked up. His parents should have taught him better.

He didn't. The cop didn't issue ANY orders. The car pulled up, the cop opened the door and shot him. Two seconds. No excuse for it.
 
This gun-crazy racist bastard shot the 12 year old kid within 2 seconds of arriving on the scene.

2. seconds.
  1. No one was in danger.
  2. Ohio is an open-carry state.
  3. The kid wasn't pointing the gun at the "cop", or anyone else.
  4. The bastard didn't give any commands, (he simply had no time to, he just shot, murdered really)

If black people were truly like racist whites think they are, that thug in blue would have gone missing a long time ago.

Maybe you can learn a valuable lesson in life here: When an officer says "Show me your hands", do just that.

There wasn't time for the cop to give that order, much less time to comply.
 
So be it. Still doesn't matter. Barely two seconds after arrival, getting out of the car without a pistol leveled at him, the cop fired. Again, as a cop, you're supposed to exhibit some kind of judgement and maybe a little restraint.
Neither were put forward.

Pretty much irrelevant in this case. It's not about if the cop could have done a little better, it's about whether he broke any laws or not by using deadly force.
 
Irrelevant. The kid never leveled the toy gun at the officer. What reason did the officer have for firing, especially as he was getting out of the car? There was no danger to the officer's life. He knew the second they pulled up to the site that he was going to shoot the kid. As a cop, you're supposed to demonstrate judgement. This cop didn't. He should spend the rest of his life in prison. His partner should be fired and never be allowed near a badge of any kind for the rest of his life. Sadly, neither will happen.

You can't put people in jail because you don't like something they did. You can only put them in jail if they committed a crime. Now what crime did this officer commit?
 
This gun-crazy racist bastard shot the 12 year old kid within 2 seconds of arriving on the scene.

2. seconds.
  1. No one was in danger.
  2. Ohio is an open-carry state.
  3. The kid wasn't pointing the gun at the "cop", or anyone else.
  4. The bastard didn't give any commands, (he simply had no time to, he just shot, murdered really)

If black people were truly like racist whites think they are, that thug in blue would have gone missing a long time ago.

Maybe you can learn a valuable lesson in life here: When an officer says "Show me your hands", do just that.

There wasn't time for the cop to give that order, much less time to comply.

They repeatedly yelled "Show me your hands" and the kid went for his waistband.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
Really sad story. Really hard on the kid's family and I am pretty sure the cops, also.

Actually my former employer grew up on the same street as this officer. They used to go to church every Sunday. My employer said he never hung around with the guy, but he knows the family are great law abiding God fearing people.
 
Irrelevant. The kid never leveled the toy gun at the officer. What reason did the officer have for firing, especially as he was getting out of the car? There was no danger to the officer's life. He knew the second they pulled up to the site that he was going to shoot the kid. As a cop, you're supposed to demonstrate judgement. This cop didn't. He should spend the rest of his life in prison. His partner should be fired and never be allowed near a badge of any kind for the rest of his life. Sadly, neither will happen.

You can't put people in jail because you don't like something they did. You can only put them in jail if they committed a crime. Now what crime did this officer commit?

Murder. Shot two seconds after arrival. No verbal warning. Fake gun that wasn't drawn on the cop.
 
I doubt the kid was pointing it at the cop or woud have hurt anyone even it were a real gun.

No, he wasn't pointing it at the officer, but apparently when the officer seen he was pulling out a gun, that's when he shot. Like I said, a police officer can't wait until a gun is pointed at him before he shoots in self-defense.
 
Maybe you can learn a valuable lesson in life here: When an officer says "Show me your hands", do just that.
How does this apply to the murder of Tamir Rice?

I think the point is that the death of little Tamir wasn't a "murder" at all, but just a misadventure and certainly not a crime.

Tamir was killed during the Obama Regime, and apparently they didn't think it was a crime either.
 
CLEVELAND (WJW)– The U.S. Department of Justice closed its independent investigation into the deadly shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The Justice Department said it found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal charges against Cleveland Division of Police Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. Rice’s family was notified of the decision on Monday.

“Although Tamir Rice’s death is tragic, the evidence does not meet these substantial evidentiary requirements. In light of this, and for the reasons explained below, career federal prosecutors with both the Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office concluded that this matter is not a prosecutable violation of the federal statutes,” the DOJ said in a news release on Tuesday.

The DOJ said video of the incident is time-lapsed, grainy and doesn’t have audio so Rice’s hands are not visible at relevant times. Federal investigators also said Loehmann and Garmback gave several statements and consistently repeated main points.

Rice was shot and killed at Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard in Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2014 after a person called 911 reporting seeing a person with a gun. The caller said the individual was, “probably a juvenile” and the gun was, “probably fake.” That information was not passed along to the officers, according to the investigation.

Police said Loehmann opened fire when he said the boy reached towards his waistband. The gun turned out to be an airsoft pistol.


Loehmann was fired from the Cleveland Division of Police in 2017 for lying on his police application, not the deadly shooting. His termination, though appealed, was upheld by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.


There is a divide on whether the officer was in his right to shoot the 5'9" 195lbs 12 year old. It's mostly divided on party lines: the cop haters vs the cop supporters. In spite of the grand jury ruling not to indict officer Loehmann, the city still made his mother rich by handing her 5 million taxpayer dollars, which could have been used for much better things for the citizens. Now, this is a second ruling that the officers did nothing illegal, while some will say Loehmann was still wrong. Before the cop haters chime in and say the kid only had a toy, here is a picture of the real gun, and the replica the toy was made from. Can you tell the difference, especially in a split seconds time?


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The cop was warned over the radio that there was a teen waving a fake pistol. What's more egregious here is the fact that the cop shot him as he was opening the door getting out of the car. Barely two seconds after they arrived. The boy never leveled the toy at the officer. The officer just fired and that was it.

I see nothing in the deposition that indicates the officers were "warned over the radio that there was a teen waving a fake pistol."

A caller did report to the 911 operator " it’s probably fake, but you know what? He’s scaring the shit out of me”, but the word "fake" was not forwarded to the officers.

So be it. Still doesn't matter. Barely two seconds after arrival, getting out of the car without a pistol leveled at him, the cop fired. Again, as a cop, you're supposed to exhibit some kind of judgement and maybe a little restraint.
Neither were put forward.

Law enforcement officers seldom use restraint when they've already yelled "Show me your hands" and you reach into your waistband. The kid fucked up. His parents should have taught him better.

He didn't. The cop didn't issue ANY orders. The car pulled up, the cop opened the door and shot him. Two seconds. No excuse for it.

Were you there? The officers said they issued orders, so I"m going with that. The video also showed a gray dot on the gazebo floor after Tamir had collapsed. That was the gun....

“For it to have fallen on the ground, it would have had to have been in Tamir’s hand,” he said. “Which means he would have had to have pulled that gun out.”

Go back and read the deposition.
 
Murder. Shot two seconds after arrival. No verbal warning. Fake gun that wasn't drawn on the cop.

Self defense is not murder in our state. There is no law in Ohio that states the minimum time an officer has to wait before firing. There was no way to distinguish it was a fake gun. Go to the OP and look at the picture I posted. It was no clear plastic water gun.
 
CLEVELAND (WJW)– The U.S. Department of Justice closed its independent investigation into the deadly shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The Justice Department said it found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal charges against Cleveland Division of Police Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. Rice’s family was notified of the decision on Monday.

“Although Tamir Rice’s death is tragic, the evidence does not meet these substantial evidentiary requirements. In light of this, and for the reasons explained below, career federal prosecutors with both the Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office concluded that this matter is not a prosecutable violation of the federal statutes,” the DOJ said in a news release on Tuesday.

The DOJ said video of the incident is time-lapsed, grainy and doesn’t have audio so Rice’s hands are not visible at relevant times. Federal investigators also said Loehmann and Garmback gave several statements and consistently repeated main points.

Rice was shot and killed at Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard in Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2014 after a person called 911 reporting seeing a person with a gun. The caller said the individual was, “probably a juvenile” and the gun was, “probably fake.” That information was not passed along to the officers, according to the investigation.

Police said Loehmann opened fire when he said the boy reached towards his waistband. The gun turned out to be an airsoft pistol.


Loehmann was fired from the Cleveland Division of Police in 2017 for lying on his police application, not the deadly shooting. His termination, though appealed, was upheld by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.


There is a divide on whether the officer was in his right to shoot the 5'9" 195lbs 12 year old. It's mostly divided on party lines: the cop haters vs the cop supporters. In spite of the grand jury ruling not to indict officer Loehmann, the city still made his mother rich by handing her 5 million taxpayer dollars, which could have been used for much better things for the citizens. Now, this is a second ruling that the officers did nothing illegal, while some will say Loehmann was still wrong. Before the cop haters chime in and say the kid only had a toy, here is a picture of the real gun, and the replica the toy was made from. Can you tell the difference, especially in a split seconds time?


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Only a fucking moron would be for the police killing of children holding toy guns.
how did he know it was a toy gun??

its the parents that are responsible for letting him out with what looked like a real gun,,,
 
CLEVELAND (WJW)– The U.S. Department of Justice closed its independent investigation into the deadly shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The Justice Department said it found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal charges against Cleveland Division of Police Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. Rice’s family was notified of the decision on Monday.

“Although Tamir Rice’s death is tragic, the evidence does not meet these substantial evidentiary requirements. In light of this, and for the reasons explained below, career federal prosecutors with both the Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office concluded that this matter is not a prosecutable violation of the federal statutes,” the DOJ said in a news release on Tuesday.

The DOJ said video of the incident is time-lapsed, grainy and doesn’t have audio so Rice’s hands are not visible at relevant times. Federal investigators also said Loehmann and Garmback gave several statements and consistently repeated main points.

Rice was shot and killed at Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard in Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2014 after a person called 911 reporting seeing a person with a gun. The caller said the individual was, “probably a juvenile” and the gun was, “probably fake.” That information was not passed along to the officers, according to the investigation.

Police said Loehmann opened fire when he said the boy reached towards his waistband. The gun turned out to be an airsoft pistol.


Loehmann was fired from the Cleveland Division of Police in 2017 for lying on his police application, not the deadly shooting. His termination, though appealed, was upheld by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.


There is a divide on whether the officer was in his right to shoot the 5'9" 195lbs 12 year old. It's mostly divided on party lines: the cop haters vs the cop supporters. In spite of the grand jury ruling not to indict officer Loehmann, the city still made his mother rich by handing her 5 million taxpayer dollars, which could have been used for much better things for the citizens. Now, this is a second ruling that the officers did nothing illegal, while some will say Loehmann was still wrong. Before the cop haters chime in and say the kid only had a toy, here is a picture of the real gun, and the replica the toy was made from. Can you tell the difference, especially in a split seconds time?


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Police did the right thing.
 

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