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rtwngAvngr said:Sounds like you sort of don't know what censorship or contentiousness are.
Are you talking about liberals who keep spouting that insane point of view so they can feel special at cocktail parties?
Again, contentious issues typically have strong support pro and con. Who is pro censorship?
sagegirl said:Who is pro censorship.....?????? Well the government, the extreme right, religious fundamentalists, most of you hate the ACLU but they fight censorship all the time. Examples, Abu Graib pictures and pictures of caskets coming back from Iraq, violence and nudity in movies and video games, banning books in schools. This is very general and I am still not advocating all these things, just citing them as examples of censorship.
rtwngAvngr said:Why let a bunch of "sand *******" dictate to us who our allies should be?
William Joyce said:Excellent question. Another is, why let a bunch of pale Semites from the ghettos of Europe dictate to us who our enemies should be?
William Joyce said:Excellent question. Another is, why let a bunch of pale Semites from the ghettos of Europe dictate to us who our enemies should be?
rtwngAvngr said:They're our enemies even without the jews. We have interests there above and beyond anything to do with Israel.
Jihad would still be real even if Israel never existed at all.
Kathianne said:You'll never convince the likes of WJ or Dillo of that. It's all the Jews.
Ya think? I don't.rtwngAvngr said:they're both bright too. Sad.
rtwngAvngr said:They're our enemies even without the jews. We have interests there above and beyond anything to do with Israel.
Jihad would still be real even if Israel never existed at all.
Kathianne said:Better to let the Palis from the Gaza do so?
William Joyce said:Better to let nobody but the white gentiles who founded and built this country decide. There is simply no way that 800 gazillion of our tax dollars to Israel and our blind support of their every move is in our best interests. It's motivated by pure politics, not what's best for our people and our country. That's just wrong, plain and simple. The politicians who do Israel's bidding aren't "doing the right thing," they're petrified of the consequences of going against such a powerful enemy. The Israel lobby will destroy anyone or anyting that stands in its path. That's not being an "ally," that's being a captive! We are bullied by these people because they know that the most powerful phrase on Earth is, "anti-Semite." All the cowards run and hide.
The math is clear: we would be richer, happier and safer if we dropped our dangerous entanglement with Israel. We are being used by them like a cheap tampon.
William Joyce said:Better to let nobody but the white gentiles who founded and built this country decide. There is simply no way that 800 gazillion of our tax dollars to Israel and our blind support of their every move is in our best interests. It's motivated by pure politics, not what's best for our people and our country. That's just wrong, plain and simple. The politicians who do Israel's bidding aren't "doing the right thing," they're petrified of the consequences of going against such a powerful enemy. The Israel lobby will destroy anyone or anyting that stands in its path. That's not being an "ally," that's being a captive! We are bullied by these people because they know that the most powerful phrase on Earth is, "anti-Semite." All the cowards run and hide.
The math is clear: we would be richer, happier and safer if we dropped our dangerous entanglement with Israel. We are being used by them like a cheap tampon.
rtwngAvngr said:I asked first. You say it's contentious. Contentious means someone must be for it. Who is for it? Are you a retard? Why do I have to ask this a million times.
Seems to me the people most upset about free speech are the old big three media who have lost all their ratings to cable news. Seems to me it's liberals who want to shut donw talk radio because the truth ruins their elections.
So if you're asking me, I say liberals are pro censorship. Is this your answer too? I still don't consider it contentious though, liberals are a dying breed in america and their opinions hardly matter. Good.
sagegirl said:I guess we both agree that there is censorship going on, just depends on your point of view as to how it concerns you. I think if anything one should ask who isnt for censorship.....to some degree.
Just over in usa chat it was mentioned that doonesbury was "censored" for two days for a reference to Rove as "Turd Blossom" and just consider the uproar when pbs aired a show that was about alternative life styles....or spongebob square pants..... Really!
It is the process of discrediting the source, making it difficult for those who expose an issue, denying licenses and access. All of these methods of censorship are more devious. They are also less likely to arouse suspicion or outrage because of their secretive nature.rtwngAvngr said:Sagegirl, could you explain "reverse censorship" ? That's quaint as hell.
sagegirl said:It is the process of discrediting the source, making it difficult for those who expose an issue, denying licenses and access. All of these methods of censorship are more devious. They are also less likely to arouse suspicion or outrage because of their secretive nature.
William Joyce said:Better to let nobody but the white gentiles who founded and built this country decide.
