NYC to pay criminals $1000 per month.

[fncceo]

Sounds good to me. Good behavior should be rewarded.

The taxpayers can pay me to behave … but it will cost more than $1,000

 

[Concerned American]

Just when you thought he left couldn't get anymore insane than they already are.

NYC launching program to pay young criminal offenders $1K per month for participation, good behavior: reports

A New York City pilot program has come under fire for what local reports describe as a plan to pay young criminal offenders $1,000 each month for involvement in the program and good behavior.

www.foxnews.com

Hmmm, maybe Trump should deport illegal immigrants to NYC. I think they would soon come around to the $1K self-deport line of thinking.

 

[sealybobo]

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The wall is working.

Border Patrol is happy being able to do their jobs again.

Illegal invaders won't come back.



.

Are they patrolling the border more now? Because the wall isn't working. It's the people patrolling. The minute they stop patrolling, they'll be back to go over, under, around or through your wall.

So patrolling our border is working.

And are we? Or is Trump just throwing out a few hundred illegals to show you he's trying but in reality there's still 490,000 illegals here.

What other ways can they get here? Visitor visa? Same way you go to Canada to visit. Tell the border agent that you're just coming to visit the Casino.

Besides, who knows what's working and what's not. You guys lie so often, I find it very hard to believe that "the wall is working".

For now it working.

 

[sealybobo]

What criminals?

Does it matter? Not the point. The point is Trump to pay criminals $1000.

If you mocked NYC for paying criminals $1000, why are you treating Trump differently?

I'll tell you why. Because if we say something, you don't believe it. If Trump says the exact same thing, suddenly you get it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well I'm throwing it back in your face. Last year you thought paying criminals was a stupid idea. Today Trump is doing it. So now I'm sure you love our idea.

No, I've already said i disagree with trumps idea. I think paying illegals to self deport is silly.

 

[marvin martian]

Does it matter? Not the point. The point is Trump to pay criminals $1000.

If you mocked NYC for paying criminals $1000, why are you treating Trump differently?

I'll tell you why. Because if we say something, you don't believe it. If Trump says the exact same thing, suddenly you get it.

What criminals?

This should be an easy one for you. You're insisting Trump is "paying criminals". WHO are the criminals?

Are you so deep in the cult, they won't even let you say it?

 

[sealybobo]

No, I've already said i disagree with trumps idea. I think paying illegals to self deport is silly.

But it works. And it costs us more if they stay.

 

[sealybobo]

What criminals?

This should be an easy one for you. You're insisting Trump is "paying criminals". WHO are the criminals?

Are you so deep in the cult, they won't even let you say it?

What does it matter? Is there any criminal you would be okay with giving money to? If not, it doesn't matter. Jwalkers, rapists, felons like Trump. You name the crime and how you would be okay with paying them to stop. If you can't give any examples, it doesn't matter. Fact is Trump is paying criminals to stop. And HOPING they won't do it again. What an idiot right?

Sounds like you agree with Trump doing this. But that's only because Trump did it. If anyone else did it, you would complain.

Can you name any other criminals we should pay to get them to stop? What about Clarence Thomas? We have actually offered him $1 million if he would have resigned on Biden or Obama's watch

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Does it matter? Not the point. The point is Trump to pay criminals $1000.

If you mocked NYC for paying criminals $1000, why are you treating Trump differently?

I'll tell you why. Because if we say something, you don't believe it. If Trump says the exact same thing, suddenly you get it.

.

Beyond






.

 

[marvin martian]

What does it matter? Is there any criminal you would be okay with giving money to? If not, it doesn't matter. Jwalkers, rapists, felons like Trump. You name the crime and how you would be okay with paying them to stop. If you can't give any examples, it doesn't matter. Fact is Trump is paying criminals to stop. And HOPING they won't do it again. What an idiot right?

Sounds like you agree with Trump doing this. But that's only because Trump did it. If anyone else did it, you would complain.

Can you name any other criminals we should pay to get them to stop? What about Clarence Thomas? We have actually offered him $1 million if he would have resigned on Biden or Obama's watch

So you're claiming the illegals are the criminals Trump is paying?

Illegals are criminals?

Say it!

 

[sealybobo]

So you're claiming the illegals are the criminals Trump is paying?

Illegals are criminals?

Say it!

Of course they are. Hence the word illegal. It would be like paying Trump to stop breaking laws. He'd just take your money and continue breaking the law.

Trump's dumb huh? In fact, Trump has a lot of Liberal ideas and for some reason today you guys love those ideas. Paying criminals, tariffs.

Don't forget in 2006 we were saying this: Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

 

[ThisIsMe]

But it works. And it costs us more if they stay.

who's to say when they get paid..they won't just come right back? And if they did, would democrats, again, defend their right to be here?

Would the democrats support them doing this in the first place? I thought them coming here was to flee poverty and violence, but if we pay them to back, what was the point of defending them coming here?

 

[sealybobo]

who's to say when they get paid..they won't just come right back? And if they did, would democrats, again, defend their right to be here?

Would the democrats support them doing this in the first place? I thought them coming here was to flee poverty and violence, but if we pay them to back, what was the point of defending them coming here?

"Democrats" are divided on this issue just like Republicans are. You are referring to liberals in sanctuary cities who understand that Republicans set up an economic system (starting on Reagan's watch) where illegals and corporations would benefit from this and it clearly hurt poor and middle class Americans. It was us in the 2000's sounding the alarm about illegals. And it was Republicans who defended illegal employers. You said "they were given fake id so how were they to know?" They know. And you know they know. That's just an excuse to give the illegal employer a pass if they are ever caught.

How does ICE know who these illegals are? Funny ICE knows they are illegal but the employer doesn't.

So, I hate it when you blame Democrats because back in the 2000's we sounded a lot more like Trump than you and you defended illegal employers. You didn't want the government to raid and fine illegal employers. You just wanted a wall built. You said it's not the corporations fault. If the government/wall won't stop them and they are here, it's fine to hire them. Or at least they can claim they didn't know.

Well now you are okay with the government raiding illegal employers to round up illegals. But why not fine the employer too? Why just punish the illegal worker? Then the illegal employer just keeps on hiring them. Sure there won't be many to hire for a year or two but eventually that'll end. They'll be back. Because this is all for show really.

 

[leftwinger]

Are they patrolling the border more now? Because the wall isn't working. It's the people patrolling. The minute they stop patrolling, they'll be back to go over, under, around or through your wall.

So patrolling our border is working.

And are we? Or is Trump just throwing out a few hundred illegals to show you he's trying but in reality there's still 490,000 illegals here.

What other ways can they get here? Visitor visa? Same way you go to Canada to visit. Tell the border agent that you're just coming to visit the Casino.

Besides, who knows what's working and what's not. You guys lie so often, I find it very hard to believe that "the wall is working".

For now it working.

Preposterous. What a dumb post by…..wow.

 

[leftwinger]

I was pretty sure CA already tried this program. CA NY leading the way…..the way to what?

***
How much does California pay to not commit crimes?

High-risk individuals will get a base income of $300 a month to stay out of trouble. They can earn up to $200 more per month by landing a job interview, complying with probation, or working with a mentor. Life coaches will be provided by the Street Violence Intervention Program (SVIP).

 

[ThisIsMe]

"Democrats" are divided on this issue just like Republicans are.

I see "democrats" here, in the news, and on the radio all on board with trying to keep illegals here. I have not seen a Democrat yet say that illegals should be deported.

You are referring to liberals in sanctuary cities who understand that Republicans set up an economic system (starting on Reagan's watch) where illegals and corporations would benefit from this and it clearly hurt poor and middle class Americans. It was us in the 2000's sounding the alarm about illegals. And it was Republicans who defended illegal employers. You said "they were given fake id so how were they to know?" They know. And you know they know. That's just an excuse to give the illegal employer a pass if they are ever caught.

I don't recall a time when republicans defended hiring illegals, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Could you link an article so I can read it? I tried searching and Google is about worthless for trying to find information anymore. It just shows you what IT wants, not what you ask for.

You say the sides switched positions on illegals. Why? When Republicans started changing their tune on illegals, why did the left also change their tune? Maybe because they saw political value in flooding the country with tens of millions of them?

How does ICE know who these illegals are? Funny ICE knows they are illegal but the employer doesn't.

Probably because they like the cheap labor. By the way, these big companies you talk about hiring these illegals, most of them are probably ran by left leaning CEO's

So, I hate it when you blame Democrats because back in the 2000's we sounded a lot more like Trump than you and you defended illegal employers. You didn't want the government to raid and fine illegal employers. You just wanted a wall built. You said it's not the corporations fault. If the government/wall won't stop them and they are here, it's fine to hire them. Or at least they can claim they didn't know.

Well now you are okay with the government raiding illegal employers to round up illegals. But why not fine the employer too? Why just punish the illegal worker? Then the illegal employer just keeps on hiring them. Sure there won't be many to hire for a year or two but eventually that'll end. They'll be back. Because this is all for show really.

For the record "I" didn't say any of that, but I get you mean the republicans.

Again, in the time I started paying attention to politics, I don't recall republicans ever being on board with illegal immigration, but I'm willing to read any information you provide.

Still, that was in the past, what counts now, is now. If illegals want to immigrate here naturally, thats fine, but what isn't fine is this plan by democrats to import future (and current) voters by the millions.

 

[sealybobo]

Preposterous. What a dumb post by…..wow.

What do you mean? The wall doesn't work if no one is watching it. If someone's watching it, no need for the wall. If no one is watching it, we already know they just go over, through, under or around it.

What's stupid?

This tunnel cost $1 million to make. The smuggle $10 million a day in cocaine through the tunnel. A DAY

So tell me what's stupid about what I said, idiot.

 

[marvin martian]

Of course they are. Hence the word illegal. It would be like paying Trump to stop breaking laws. He'd just take your money and continue breaking the law.

Trump's dumb huh? In fact, Trump has a lot of Liberal ideas and for some reason today you guys love those ideas. Paying criminals, tariffs.

Don't forget in 2006 we were saying this: Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

So, illegals are all criminals, that's your take?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

I wouldn't give them a damn dime. If they've came in illegally, deport them, and let them know they've forfeited the legal opportunity to come back.

 

[sealybobo]

I see "democrats" here, in the news, and on the radio all on board with trying to keep illegals here. I have not seen a Democrat yet say that illegals should be deported.




I don't recall a time when republicans defended hiring illegals, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Could you link an article so I can read it? I tried searching and Google is about worthless for trying to find information anymore. It just shows you what IT wants, not what you ask for.

You say the sides switched positions on illegals. Why? When Republicans started changing their tune on illegals, why did the left also change their tune? Maybe because they saw political value in flooding the country with tens of millions of them?



Probably because they like the cheap labor. By the way, these big companies you talk about hiring these illegals, most of them are probably ran by left leaning CEO's



For the record "I" didn't say any of that, but I get you mean the republicans.

Again, in the time I started paying attention to politics, I don't recall republicans ever being on board with illegal immigration, but I'm willing to read any information you provide.

Still, that was in the past, what counts now, is now. If illegals want to immigrate here naturally, thats fine, but what isn't fine is this plan by democrats to import future (and current) voters by the millions.

Well of course the news you watch is telling you that it's liberals who want them here. But I've been telling you for years that liberal wishes don't pay the bills. Illegal employers do. And whenever I suggest going after illegal employers, suddenly it's REPUBLICANS that can't get themselves to say they want to punish or go after illegal employers. Suddenly they are sympathetic to the men destroying the middle class. I suspect they worship their corporate masters and they can't admit they do anything wrong.

Where is "here" by the way? Can you show me one Democrat who's saying they want to keep illegals here? You mean they want asylum seekers to get due process? Yea, we want Trump to follow the law and constitution. YOUR argument is that'll take too long. So you are asking us if you can skate or skirt the law? No. That doesn't mean I want the illegals here.

I don't know one Republican who hasn't said "hey, as long as they are here legally, I'm okay with it". Do you agree with that? I do. And I suspect that's what's going to happen. Basically another Reagan amnesty for millions of immigrants. I think it's great because I like the low wages. These people cut my lawn or shovel my driveway. I want those to be low paid workers. Used to be kids now white American kids won't do that kind of work. We need the immigrants.