Official USMB Debate 2020 -- "Round One" Thread..

[bigrebnc1775]

His lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.

Biden punted

Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.

Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away

He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?

No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.

He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.

ShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.

Unfortunately this debate encompassed how divided we are.

How can we not be divided when we have a president who condones white supremacy because it gives him votes?

Can you give us some names of these white supremacy we can condone them.. Or are you just making up imaginary groups

Impeached Trump named one -- then couldn't bring himself to condemn them.

Proud boys is run by a black man

This retard fight is great. Trump said for the Proud Boys to stand down.

And stand by, guess you forgot that tidbit.

Yet democrats have never acknowledged the terrorist groups of antifa and blm

I am a republican and I know BLM is organized and I also know Antifa is an ideology that is not organized. I'm also a member of Vets against Trump and never trumper's.

And you are part of the problem

 

[JoeB131]

I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.

Yet here you are, aligning with people who would throw you out with the rest of the Untermensch....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.

Yet here you are, aligning with people who would throw you out with the rest of the Untermensch....

Absolutely not. I have bashed Jew hating righties here nonstop. Ask the Mods. For that I WAS punished. They don't seem to mind me being mean to you though, LOL.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Actually Biden called the police the enemy

That’s a lie

Yes he did try again

 

[Faun]

His lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.

Biden punted

Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.

Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away

He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?

No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.

He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.

ShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.

Stand down and stand back

LOL

It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.

No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.

He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:


“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/

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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...

... so who anong them are "very fine people?"

In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks

On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr

www.politifact.com

Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."

What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.

Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?

Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.


Have a seat you worthless tool.

From the link I posted:


Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??

They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.

Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.

I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.

You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.

Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...

 

[eddiew37]

The betting markets thought Biden won. Predictit has Biden higher this morning compared to where he was before the debate.

trump destroyed Joe. had him telling the radical socialists he doesn't support the green new deal, doesn't support the healthcare public option Ouch, destroyed Biden's base support. can you say ouch with me?

It was a shit show last night and the piece of shit Trump was the master of ceremonies He regurgitated on America

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

His lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.

Biden punted

Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.

Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away

He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?

No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.

He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.

ShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.

Stand down and stand back

LOL

It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.

No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.

He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:


“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/

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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...

... so who anong them are "very fine people?"

In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks

On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr

www.politifact.com

Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."

What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.

Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?

Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.


Have a seat you worthless tool.

From the link I posted:


Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??

They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.

Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.

I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.

You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.

Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...

I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.

And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Actually Biden called the police the enemy

That’s a lie

Yes he did try again

Nah. You're full of shit.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The question is how many times will Trump raise the voter fraud hoax.

MY question is, how many times do you have to see evidence of voter fraud before you stop parroting the talking point that it's a "hoax"?

 

[Cecilie1200]

If Biden has a pulse - he has my vote!

Well, at least you're honest about not giving a shit about the country so long as your agenda is served.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trump supporters will say Trump did great and Biden was terrible Biden supporters will say Biden did great and Trump was terrible. Anyone see a different outcome?

I thought they both kinda sucked, to tell you the truth. That particular debate format was a very bad choice for these two men. I thought Biden came out slightly ahead (with anyone who isn't politically aware enough to know when he was lying through his dentures), simply because he didn't need to do much more than stay upright and on the same topic from the beginning of his sentence to the end of it. There were also, quite frankly, a lot of very valid points Trump should have made and didn't.

 

[Richard-H]

One thing is clear:

Trump gave a command order to the proud boys - he openly acted as their commander.

He clearly established himself as a white nationalist, a racist and in control of these hate groups.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Who will wear a mask walking on stage?

Biden is real underdog here.

Hardly. Trump has to really earn any success in debates, and probably still won't be credited for it. Biden can rest assured that he will have won the debate in the media no matter what he says or does.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Who will wear a mask walking on stage?

Watching C-Span2, everybody who has walked on stage to speak in boring preliminary speeches, thus far none have worn masks.

Why would they? They aren't really close to anyone else.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Who will wear a mask walking on stage?

Watching C-Span2, everybody who has walked on stage to speak in boring preliminary speeches, thus far none have worn masks.

Chris isn't masked.....

Why should he? He's more than six feet away from every other person in the building.

 

[jc456]

The betting markets thought Biden won. Predictit has Biden higher this morning compared to where he was before the debate.

trump destroyed Joe. had him telling the radical socialists he doesn't support the green new deal, doesn't support the healthcare public option Ouch, destroyed Biden's base support. can you say ouch with me?

It was a shit show last night and the piece of shit Trump was the master of ceremonies He regurgitated on America

and he took joe to the cleaners. he had to take on Wallace as well. very sad statement that a moderator is biased to one party like Wallace was to Biden. amazing. even then, debating two trump smoked old joe.

 

[jc456]

Who will wear a mask walking on stage?

Watching C-Span2, everybody who has walked on stage to speak in boring preliminary speeches, thus far none have worn masks.

Why would they? They aren't really close to anyone else.

he must get off on people wearing masks. it is truly an amazing moment in life when people want to kill others with a mask.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why aren’t they discussing foreign policy?

Did you actually expect Chris Wallace to choose to allow Trump to talk about his historic peace deal? No, it's FAR more important to the future of the nation that they gabble on about whether or not climate change is responsible for forest fires.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Chris Wallace is such a twat. What a shit show prelude.

Chris Wallace is a great moderator.

No, he really isn't.

 

[jc456]

One thing is clear:

Trump gave a command order to the proud boys - he openly acted as their commander.

He clearly established himself as a white nationalist, a racist and in control of these hate groups.

he was asked to tell them to stand down. he did that, are you saying Wallace set a trap? so you're admitting Wallace is working with Biden and the DNC? really, that's what you're saying. wow.