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...yawn. You guys are a broken record. You know Trump that well huh? What did you do, ride one of his elevators one day?His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I do think it's populist fodder. But I also think that, hypothetically speaking, he'd probably follow through on this. That is, the first time around.
I don't think Trump gives a shit about the Supreme Court, and he won't give a shit, until he ends up personally butthurt. For now, he'll defer to whatever other people are telling him will placate the masses. The first time the SCOTUS slaps a hypothetical President Trump's wrist, Trump would end up going apeshit and retaliate with subsequent picks. The next four years are likely to see at least two court picks, possibly a third. And that's assuming that Trump doesn't go crazy and try to pack the court FDR style.
His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
This is like a bear saying Ok salmon you won me over. Bitch you liked salmon the whole time
I don't think we can judge any SCOTUS pick until they are seated and make some rulings. I thought Roberts was a good pick and he turns out to be probably the worst justice in my lifetime. No matter who is picked they will never fill Scalia's shoes... he is one of the 5 greatest justices of all time.
I'm not on board with Trump yet.... can't get there this way. As long as he runs from Conservatism and his antagonistic hoard of fanatical supporters continue to denigrate me and insult my intelligence... it's just not likely going to happen. I hate that... really, I do! I honestly and truly WANT to be able to vote for Trump. It's kind of pathetic because it wouldn't take a lot to get me on board. Just stop the slobbering all over liberals and repeating liberal memes left and right and start talking about sound Conservative principles again... you know, like when you first started out?
We're still a little over 5 months away from the election and there will still be some debates and opportunities for Trump to turn things around but I think he is doing irreparable damage right now. He continues to push more and more Conservatives OUT of the Big Tent and they won't be able to vote for him under ANY circumstance, including the threat of a Hillary presidency.
Understood but he went to conservatives and he got this list from them. That is certainly not pushing conservatives put, it is an attempt to bring them in. He will have to do more if he is to get the hold outs like you, I understand that.
Concider that the GOP has not put up a conservative since Reagan, so if you gauge Trump by the candidates since Reagan, it would be more fair. Trump is not a conservative, I'm not saying he is, but some of us concider the SCOTUS pick to be the most important thing this cycle. True, Roberts betrayed his duty but that is always a risk no matter who is doing the choosing.
Well, I am not a "never trump" person. In fact, I actually contemplated supporting Trump over Cruz back in the beginning. I actually made a thread arguing in favor of Trump on the basis that he was more centrist and not branded by the "far right" ideology thrown by the left. I ultimately supported Cruz because he aligns more with my personal ideology but I said I would back Trump if he could win the nomination. I was concerned when he supported ethanol subsidies in Iowa in order to pander to corn farmers and when he supported federal land grabs from states. Where he lost me was in the later part of the primaries when he started attacking Carson and Cruz. Then he had that Micheal Moore meltdown on GWB at the debate. Then he started the "Lyin' Ted" crap... and his fanatics piled on.
So at this point... My vote is not going to Trump. Instead of trying to WIN my vote back, he ran out there and lurched LEFT... said we need to raise the minimum wage and taxes on the rich! Said he didn't care and didn't need my vote... And his little minion fanatics cheer him on and take turns kicking me in the nuts and calling me stupid because I speak out about that. Well, okay, if I were writing a textbook on How NOT to Win My Vote... THAT would be the first chapter.
Link?Guaranteed, if you asked that buffoon in person to name the 11 on "his list" off the top of his head he wouldn't be able to name one of them, because he didn't put that list together and has no idea who they are.His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I haven't set up anything, you're responsible for you own beliefs, not me. No conservative is going to vote for Hillary unless they have an ax to grind.Yes, let's keep that in mind and completely ignore the Republican revolution in '94 led by Newt Gingrich, who is supporting Trump, btw. They held Billies feet to the fire on welfare reform and he still rejected it two times before caving in.You are absolutely right and keep in mind... Hillary's husband made his legacy (besides Monica and Impeachment) on the very Conservative issues of Welfare Reform and balancing the budget. He dubbed it "Triangulation" and was a very successful "centrist" president.
The only conservative votes Hillary will get are the Cruz supporters that can't stand the fact they didn't get their way and ruining the country would be a small price to pay for their petty revenge.I can certainly see Hillary Clinton, the shrewd politician she is, actually running to the right of Trump and winning Conservative votes... I know that may sound insane... but I think it could happen. All she has to do is sound more conservative than Trump, and these days, that's not going to be hard to do. Bernie couldn't pull it off, but I think Hillary could.
And I've already predicted that whenever Trump gets his clock cleaned and loses this election, the Cruz supporters will take it in the shorts for that too.... you're already setting that up!
No, if Hillary wins the votes of Conservatives over Trump that's TRUMP'S fault.... not the Conservatives. If he and his supporters want to act like jerks and jackasses and continue treating Conservatives like they're in a dungeon and you're in your leathers with the whips and chains... Fuck you! It is YOUR fault you LOSE this election! That's 100% on YOU buddy!
There are PLENTY of us Cruz supporters who are willing to give Trump the chance to win us over.... but you and he CONTINUE to smear and jeer Conservatives with impunity and try to intimidate and bully us into supporting Trump because he's not Hillary. I am here TELLING you that is a losing strategy and if you don't want to listen, you're going to learn.
Er... she's to the right of Trump on several major issues that conservatives claim to care about (particularly foreign policy and national defense) , I'm not claiming she's a conservative just more so on several fronts than Trump is, which shouldn't surprise anybody since he's clearly a populist with little (if any) adherence to traditional conservative principles.Unbalanced me? because I can recognize him for what he really is?Yeah because the alternative; Hillary, is too horrible to even consider.
Hmmm.. that's interesting because looking objectively at Hillary's record of statements and the positions that she has taken throughout her time in the public spotlight versus Trumps past statements and positions that he has taken throughout his time in the public spotlight, it would appear that Hillary is to the right of Trump on many issues.
Not that I would recommend anybody vote for either of these two miscreants, just that Hillary's past indicates she's more inline with conservatives on issues like foreign policy, national defense and even (as counter-intuitive as it sounds) government spending. Hillary is a liar, cheat and thief but she has been more consistent over the long term than Trump has on the positions she's taken.
At the end of the day it's pretty clear that Trump is nothing but a populist demagogue that will say whatever his target audience wants to hear and doesn't operate on any sort of philosophical principles and aren't conservatives all about principles? What are conservatives going to do if/when Trump gets elected and then proceeds to break each and every "promise" he made during the run up to the election? He's already started back tracking on the positions he took during the GOP primary elections and since he hasn't demonstrated any adherence to principle why would any conservative trust him on ANYTHING he promises?
Wow! All I can say to that is that your distaste for Trump has, unbalanced you.
If you consider all the pom-pom waiving, slogan shouting, sign toting lemmings that debase themselves for these asshole politicians like they're the second coming of Christ "balanced", then yeah chalk me up under the "unbalanced" column. At least I can take comfort in the fact that I haven't abandoned my principles for the sake of joining the pathetic herd of drones that worship these crooks and won't have any problems with mirrors or looking my Children in the eyes after this disaster in the making comes to fruition.
No because you think Hillary is anywhere near the right on anything.
Some examples of "Trump the Conservative"
+ Trump supported President Obama's 2009 stimulus plan
+ Trump supported President Obama's Auto Company bailouts
+ Trump supported the Bank Bailouts going so far as to say the government "can take over companies, and, frankly, take big chunks of companies."
+ Trump has advocated single-payer style Universal Health Care (in his book "The America We Deserve")
+ Trump has justified the use of eminent domain to take citizens property by force so it can be turned over to private enterprises
+ Trump has been a consistent donor to Democrat Party candidates (including the Clintons)
.... and that's just the short list.
What kind of "conservative" record (or even "Republican") is that ? What happened? did Donald get a brain transplant right before deciding to run for the GOP nomination or is it just possible that he never had any conservative principles to begin with and is just telling the GOP "base" what they want to hear to advance his own agenda?
"Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! This is what He does!" --- Malcolm X
Intelligent people don't need to point out their intellect....yawn. You guys are a broken record. You know Trump that well huh? What did you do, ride one of his elevators one day?His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I do think it's populist fodder. But I also think that, hypothetically speaking, he'd probably follow through on this. That is, the first time around.
I don't think Trump gives a shit about the Supreme Court, and he won't give a shit, until he ends up personally butthurt. For now, he'll defer to whatever other people are telling him will placate the masses. The first time the SCOTUS slaps a hypothetical President Trump's wrist, Trump would end up going apeshit and retaliate with subsequent picks. The next four years are likely to see at least two court picks, possibly a third. And that's assuming that Trump doesn't go crazy and try to pack the court FDR style.
I just happen to be pretty intelligent and can read people and situations pretty well. That's difficult for you because of the extra chromosome, but that's okay. You're still special in the eyes of God!
Rules compliance disclaimer: Boo Trump.
His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
This is like a bear saying Ok salmon you won me over. Bitch you liked salmon the whole time
As always, you know nothing and therefor post stupid erroneous garbage.
If only the GOP would have attacked Obama as hard as they are attacking Trump.
Intelligent people don't need to point out their intellect....yawn. You guys are a broken record. You know Trump that well huh? What did you do, ride one of his elevators one day?His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I do think it's populist fodder. But I also think that, hypothetically speaking, he'd probably follow through on this. That is, the first time around.
I don't think Trump gives a shit about the Supreme Court, and he won't give a shit, until he ends up personally butthurt. For now, he'll defer to whatever other people are telling him will placate the masses. The first time the SCOTUS slaps a hypothetical President Trump's wrist, Trump would end up going apeshit and retaliate with subsequent picks. The next four years are likely to see at least two court picks, possibly a third. And that's assuming that Trump doesn't go crazy and try to pack the court FDR style.
I just happen to be pretty intelligent and can read people and situations pretty well. That's difficult for you because of the extra chromosome, but that's okay. You're still special in the eyes of God!
Rules compliance disclaimer: Boo Trump.
Trump hasn't alienated conservatives, just some that didn't get their way. Newt is hardly a liberal and there are many backing him, now and before. Hillary is relying on the black and woman vote.I haven't set up anything, you're responsible for you own beliefs, not me. No conservative is going to vote for Hillary unless they have an ax to grind.Yes, let's keep that in mind and completely ignore the Republican revolution in '94 led by Newt Gingrich, who is supporting Trump, btw. They held Billies feet to the fire on welfare reform and he still rejected it two times before caving in.You are absolutely right and keep in mind... Hillary's husband made his legacy (besides Monica and Impeachment) on the very Conservative issues of Welfare Reform and balancing the budget. He dubbed it "Triangulation" and was a very successful "centrist" president.
The only conservative votes Hillary will get are the Cruz supporters that can't stand the fact they didn't get their way and ruining the country would be a small price to pay for their petty revenge.I can certainly see Hillary Clinton, the shrewd politician she is, actually running to the right of Trump and winning Conservative votes... I know that may sound insane... but I think it could happen. All she has to do is sound more conservative than Trump, and these days, that's not going to be hard to do. Bernie couldn't pull it off, but I think Hillary could.
And I've already predicted that whenever Trump gets his clock cleaned and loses this election, the Cruz supporters will take it in the shorts for that too.... you're already setting that up!
No, if Hillary wins the votes of Conservatives over Trump that's TRUMP'S fault.... not the Conservatives. If he and his supporters want to act like jerks and jackasses and continue treating Conservatives like they're in a dungeon and you're in your leathers with the whips and chains... Fuck you! It is YOUR fault you LOSE this election! That's 100% on YOU buddy!
There are PLENTY of us Cruz supporters who are willing to give Trump the chance to win us over.... but you and he CONTINUE to smear and jeer Conservatives with impunity and try to intimidate and bully us into supporting Trump because he's not Hillary. I am here TELLING you that is a losing strategy and if you don't want to listen, you're going to learn.
Nope... most principled conservatives do not vote on the basis of dull axes that need grinding. They do, however, tend to vote for people who articulate sound conservative principles. Not saying Hillary Clinton is capable of that... but I wouldn't put it past her to give it a try... especially since Trump has alienated Conservatives. Hey, there are a LOT of voters out here who don't have a candidate right now. This is politics... that's how the game is played. If you don't feel compelled to woo those voters, someone else might.
WELCOME to the biggest shipwreck America has ever witnessed Trump is garbageHis SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I'm pointing out a fact, calling me a name doesn't make the point moot. "Intelligent people don't need to point out their intellect."Intelligent people don't need to point out their intellect....yawn. You guys are a broken record. You know Trump that well huh? What did you do, ride one of his elevators one day?His SCOTUS list sold me.
Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.
I do think it's populist fodder. But I also think that, hypothetically speaking, he'd probably follow through on this. That is, the first time around.
I don't think Trump gives a shit about the Supreme Court, and he won't give a shit, until he ends up personally butthurt. For now, he'll defer to whatever other people are telling him will placate the masses. The first time the SCOTUS slaps a hypothetical President Trump's wrist, Trump would end up going apeshit and retaliate with subsequent picks. The next four years are likely to see at least two court picks, possibly a third. And that's assuming that Trump doesn't go crazy and try to pack the court FDR style.
I just happen to be pretty intelligent and can read people and situations pretty well. That's difficult for you because of the extra chromosome, but that's okay. You're still special in the eyes of God!
Rules compliance disclaimer: Boo Trump.
And you also don't need to ask like a whiny little bitch, yet here you are doing so.
Rules compliance disclaimer: Boo Trump.
I'm pointing out a fact
Sure. I was a Cruz supporter as well but Ted is not running and now I have to deal with what the new reality is. To me, the SCOTUS pick is the #1issue and his list is solid.
Trump hasn't alienated conservatives, just some that didn't get their way. Newt is hardly a liberal and there are many backing him, now and before. Hillary is relying on the black and woman vote.
I haven't tried to intimidate any conservatives, I'm a conservative. I just don't appreciate people shitting me and telling me it's candy.
I believe he said those are the ''types'' of justices he would pick.... that right there gave the Trumpster, a way out of not having to pick any of them and pick someone else not on the list....
Besides, if you go with all else that the Trumpster has said, the list was simply a suggestion, not finalized.
I don't share your opinion, I guess that's too much for a true conservative like yourself to believe.Trump hasn't alienated conservatives, just some that didn't get their way. Newt is hardly a liberal and there are many backing him, now and before. Hillary is relying on the black and woman vote.
I haven't tried to intimidate any conservatives, I'm a conservative. I just don't appreciate people shitting me and telling me it's candy.
Then how in the fuck can you tolerate Trump?
