Operating a large farm tractor 8 hours for one dollar

[Old Rocks]

EV's moving into another market;

 

[Captain Caveman]

Already seen these on a UK forum, they're great for small farms, golf courses, vineyards etc..

If memory serves, start at £50,000 and you get 10 to 15 years lifespan out of the battery pack.

 

[toobfreak]

EV's moving into another market

So, the people who want to sell you this tractor tell you it'll only cost you a buck a day to operate it and you don't even question it!

 

[Viacheslav]

Tractors will be the last vehicles to be converted to EV. And the problem is insufficient energy density in the battery, with such a density in real work (for example, plowing a field), the tractor discharges the battery in less than an hour.

 

[westwall]

EV's moving into another market;

Three to six hours is the claim from one company. And their tractors cost a third more than an ICE does.

As the manufacturer themselves say, good for wineries and other light duty agriculture work.

 

[Decus]

It's an electric tug not a tractor. There is no PTO and no front end loader. The only thing you can do with it is pull a plow or similar attachment that doesn't require hydraulics or a PTO; which means you'd have to buy other machines to do what this one can't.

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[elektra]

Already seen these on a UK forum, they're great for small farms, golf courses, vineyards etc..

If memory serves, start at £50,000 and you get 10 to 15 years lifespan out of the battery pack.

How do we know they get 15 years out of a battery when they have no battery 15, 10, or 5 years old.

 

[Blues Man]

Diesel tractors can be easily converted to run on vegetable oils.

There is no need to electrify them

 

[KissMy]

How do we know they get 15 years out of a battery when they have no battery 15, 10, or 5 years old.

Properly maintained lithium batteries last 15 years. Capitalisms planned obsolescence is why your cellphone & laptop batteries fail in 2 years. Appliances, vehicles & lightbulbs would last longer than your 30 year mortgage if they were not designed by capitalist companies to fail. Now that you allowed them to avoid taxes, buy votes & politicians, they have taken away your right to repair the products you purchase, so now you must upgrade everything every 10 years, so it's like renting instead of buying.

 

[KissMy]

Tractors will be the last vehicles to be converted to EV. And the problem is insufficient energy density in the battery, with such a density in real work (for example, plowing a field), the tractor discharges the battery in less than an hour.

Dear retard, farmers add many massive weights to tractors & fluid in tires for traction & loader balance. Energy density is never going to be an issue!

 

[Captain Caveman]

How do we know they get 15 years out of a battery when they have no battery 15, 10, or 5 years old.

No idea

 

[Captain Caveman]

Dear retard, farmers add many massive weights to tractors & fluid in tires for traction & loader balance. Energy density is never going to be an issue!

In the case of battery tractors, they use the batteries as the weight. With some models, you can attach the battery to the front or back, depending where you want the weight. That means you can keep a spare battery on charge as the battery is detachable.

How farmers afford them, no idea. And they're only up to light duty, currently.

 

[elektra]

Properly maintained lithium batteries last 15 years. Capitalisms planned obsolescence is why your cellphone & laptop batteries fail in 2 years. Appliances, vehicles & lightbulbs would last longer than your 30 year mortgage if they were not designed by capitalist companies to fail. Now that you allowed them to avoid taxes, buy votes & politicians, they have taken away your right to repair the products you purchase, so now you must upgrade everything every 10 years, so it's like renting instead of buying.

And somehow, EV batteries are magic, they make those to last

 

[JohnDB]

In the case of battery tractors, they use the batteries as the weight. With some models, you can attach the battery to the front or back, depending where you want the weight. That means you can keep a spare battery on charge as the battery is detachable.

How farmers afford them, no idea. And they're only up to light duty, currently.

Batteries would have to go on the front.

Most things are pulled behind a tractor... harvesting is done by another machine but it's stuff is out front as it spits it out either a side chute or the rear.

Otherwise you can end up with an upside down tractor from the wheelie. Those back tires are large and have most of the power. Weights go on the front to keep you steering.

 

[KissMy]

And somehow, EV batteries are magic, they make those to last

I have 15 year old laptop batteries that are still working, because I didn't allow them to over-charge or over-drain. The tech works if the companies allow it.

 

[JohnDB]

And tractors when running usually need to last 12-16 hour days. There's no place to do a battery change out in the middle of a row. Then you would need a winch just to change batteries.

Then most tractor barns don't have any electricity in them...most don't even have lights. There's usually another barn for the batteries and charging the two on the diesel tractors. Or someone has to have a booster pack to jump the tractors off. (They usually sit for months at a time unused)

 

[Likkmee]

And tractors when running usually need to last 12-16 hour days. There's no place to do a battery change out in the middle of a row. Then you would need a winch just to change batteries.

Then most tractor barns don't have any electricity in them...most don't even have lights. There's usually another barn for the batteries and charging the two on the diesel tractors. Or someone has to have a booster pack to jump the tractors off. (They usually sit for months at a time unused)

Inammurca

 

[Likkmee]

No idea

The same way "vaccines" need a booster every 3-4-5 weeks ?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Batteries would have to go on the front.

Most things are pulled behind a tractor... harvesting is done by another machine but it's stuff is out front as it spits it out either a side chute or the rear.

Otherwise you can end up with an upside down tractor from the wheelie. Those back tires are large and have most of the power. Weights go on the front to keep you steering.

The Solectrac models by Heckeroth allows the battery to be front mounted when you use an implement on the rear, and you can swap the battery to the back of you use an implement on the front.

Electric Tractors Are The Future Of Farming - Hobby Farms

Better for the environment and the farmer, electric tractors bring cost savings, reduced maintenance needs and flexibility to growers of all sizes.

www.hobbyfarms.com

They're aimed at small farm applications.

 

[JohnDB]

The Solectrac models by Heckeroth allows the battery to be front mounted when you use an implement on the rear, and you can swap the battery to the back of you use an implement on the front.

Electric Tractors Are The Future Of Farming - Hobby Farms

Better for the environment and the farmer, electric tractors bring cost savings, reduced maintenance needs and flexibility to growers of all sizes.

www.hobbyfarms.com

They're aimed at small farm applications.

Still isn't going to work.

Small farms mean small money.
Most small farms buy used tractors. (much cheaper)

Now you are talking about a new tractor with specialized needs and even less work produced with a higher initial investment. Even running electricity and new extra batteries around. Meaning more initial investment and extremely limited potential.

There's a reason the stock is in the dumpster. It's a bad idea, bad execution, and lousy sales.