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A big theme in the movie was the US Govt continuous effort to find and destroy any communist in the USA .

They were 100 percent right.
What would they think today as virtually the entire Democratic Party is full blown communist ??
 
A big theme in the movie was the US Govt continuous effort to find and destroy any communist in the USA .

They were 100 percent right.
What would they think today as virtually the entire Democratic Party is full blown communist ??
i believe you got that backwards, as usual, bub.

mccarthy went after the government for being "soft on communism," not for rabidly hunting the imaginary commies who were sneaking flouride into our precious bodily fluids.
 
Hollywood always had a relationship with communists and media propaganda protected them. The myth persists that an obscure senator named McCarthy blacklisted suspected commie writers in Hollywood while in fact the studios blacklisted their own when they thought they might lose money at the box office and McCarthy didn't even chair a committee in the democrat party dominated congress.
 
i believe you got that backwards, as usual, bub.

mccarthy went after the government for being "soft on communism," not for rabidly hunting the imaginary commies who were sneaking flouride into our precious bodily fluids.
mccarthy was the sociopath that DID IT.
 
did what? hunted commies?

no, mccarthy was just another pseudo conservative performance artist grasping for power and influence over the bodies of far better men.
yeah---that's sociopathy ----but the name has been
changed to "anti-social personality disorder" DSM 5
 
Time for some history redo;
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The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA), popularly the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives, created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having communist ties. It became a standing (permanent) committee in 1946, and from 1969 onwards it was known as the House Committee on Internal Security. When the House abolished the committee in 1975,[1] its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee.

The committee's anti-communist investigations are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee.[2][3] McCarthy was the chairman of the Government Operations Committee and its Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the U.S. Senate, not the House.
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Dies Committee (1938–1944)​

On May 26, 1938, the House Committee on Un-American Activities was established as a special investigating committee, reorganized from its previous incarnations as the Fish Committee and the McCormack–Dickstein Committee, to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having communist or fascist ties; however, it concentrated its efforts on communists.[14][15] It was chaired by Martin Dies Jr. (D-Tex.), and therefore known as the Dies Committee. Its records are held by the National Archives and Records Administration as records related to HUAC.
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Standing Committee (1945–1975)​

The House Committee on Un-American Activities became a standing (permanent) committee on January 3, 1945.[24] Democratic Representative Edward J. Hart of New Jersey became the committee's first chairman.[25] Under the mandate of Public Law 601, passed by the 79th Congress, the committee of nine representatives investigated suspected threats of subversion or propaganda that attacked "the form of government as guaranteed by our Constitution".[26]

Under this mandate, the committee focused its investigations on real and suspected communists in positions of actual or supposed influence in the United States society. A significant step for HUAC was its investigation of the charges of espionage brought against Alger Hiss in 1948. This investigation ultimately resulted in Hiss's trial and conviction for perjury, and convinced many of the usefulness of congressional committees for uncovering communist subversion.[27]

The chief investigator was Robert E. Stripling, senior investigator Louis J. Russell, and investigators Alvin Williams Stokes, Courtney E. Owens, and Donald T. Appell. The director of research was Benjamin Mandel.
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Hollywood blacklist​

Main article: Hollywood blacklist

In 1947, the committee held nine days of hearings into alleged communist propaganda and influence in the Hollywood motion picture industry. After conviction on contempt of Congress charges for refusal to answer some questions posed by committee members, "The Hollywood Ten" were blacklisted by the industry. Eventually, more than 300 artists – including directors, radio commentators, actors, and particularly screenwriters – were boycotted by the studios. Some, like Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Alan Lomax, Paul Robeson, and Yip Harburg, left the U.S or went underground to find work. Others like Dalton Trumbo wrote under pseudonyms or the names of colleagues. Only about ten percent succeeded in rebuilding careers within the entertainment industry.
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Time for some history redo;
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The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA), popularly the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives, created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having communist ties. It became a standing (permanent) committee in 1946, and from 1969 onwards it was known as the House Committee on Internal Security. When the House abolished the committee in 1975,[1] its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee.

The committee's anti-communist investigations are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee.[2][3] McCarthy was the chairman of the Government Operations Committee and its Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the U.S. Senate, not the House.
....

Dies Committee (1938–1944)​

On May 26, 1938, the House Committee on Un-American Activities was established as a special investigating committee, reorganized from its previous incarnations as the Fish Committee and the McCormack–Dickstein Committee, to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having communist or fascist ties; however, it concentrated its efforts on communists.[14][15] It was chaired by Martin Dies Jr. (D-Tex.), and therefore known as the Dies Committee. Its records are held by the National Archives and Records Administration as records related to HUAC.
....

Standing Committee (1945–1975)​

The House Committee on Un-American Activities became a standing (permanent) committee on January 3, 1945.[24] Democratic Representative Edward J. Hart of New Jersey became the committee's first chairman.[25] Under the mandate of Public Law 601, passed by the 79th Congress, the committee of nine representatives investigated suspected threats of subversion or propaganda that attacked "the form of government as guaranteed by our Constitution".[26]

Under this mandate, the committee focused its investigations on real and suspected communists in positions of actual or supposed influence in the United States society. A significant step for HUAC was its investigation of the charges of espionage brought against Alger Hiss in 1948. This investigation ultimately resulted in Hiss's trial and conviction for perjury, and convinced many of the usefulness of congressional committees for uncovering communist subversion.[27]

The chief investigator was Robert E. Stripling, senior investigator Louis J. Russell, and investigators Alvin Williams Stokes, Courtney E. Owens, and Donald T. Appell. The director of research was Benjamin Mandel.
....

Hollywood blacklist​

Main article: Hollywood blacklist

In 1947, the committee held nine days of hearings into alleged communist propaganda and influence in the Hollywood motion picture industry. After conviction on contempt of Congress charges for refusal to answer some questions posed by committee members, "The Hollywood Ten" were blacklisted by the industry. Eventually, more than 300 artists – including directors, radio commentators, actors, and particularly screenwriters – were boycotted by the studios. Some, like Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Alan Lomax, Paul Robeson, and Yip Harburg, left the U.S or went underground to find work. Others like Dalton Trumbo wrote under pseudonyms or the names of colleagues. Only about ten percent succeeded in rebuilding careers within the entertainment industry.
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the hollywood black list would have to be segregated if they did it today.

we know the black list was NOT "cancel culture," but a great originalist way to protect the people from, russian propaganda.
 
HCUA or HUCA are often blurred with "McCarthyism". However McCarthy's activities were a subset within the era of HUAC, active from 1950 to 1954. also McCarthy focused mainly on seeking out communists working within the Federal government and Army, but wasn't directed to other areas of American life that HUAC was looking into, before and after "McCarthyism".

Trying to find sources that are objective, or at least don't blur the two can be difficult. So take the following links with "a grain of salt" as the adage goes. (Getting late and I haven't the energy to run through several dozens of search links to filter our the erroneous many.

McCarthyism - Wikipedia

McCarthyism and the Red Scare | Miller Center

McCarthyism [ushistory.org]

One interesting footnote is the revelation of the Venona Project, intercept and decipher of Soviet communications to their agents in the West. some of the people on McCarthy's "list" turned out to be Soviet agents per Venona intercepts.

Venona project - Wikipedia

The Venona Project - HistoryNet

Venona | Encyclopedia.com

 
A big theme in the movie was the US Govt continuous effort to find and destroy any communist in the USA .

They were 100 percent right.
What would they think today as virtually the entire Democratic Party is full blown communist ??
Sure, democrats......................

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Is anyone who is throwing the term "Communist" around willing to post their definition of the word?
good point----when I was a kid-----at the height of the McCarthy madness----which in my little WASPY town was a very serious issue---COMMUNIST was a dirty word. I witnessed a WASPY friend of mine get HIT BADLY by her dad because she called someone
COMMUNIST (well---the kid was of Yugoslavian background-----SHEEEESH) My life was different--in the height of the hysteria my dad said --regarding the days of the depression "If you weren't a little pink, you were stupid" A statement like that could have gotten him jailed in my little WASPY town. The whole country went nuts
 
good point----when I was a kid-----at the height of the McCarthy madness----which in my little WASPY town was a very serious issue---COMMUNIST was a dirty word. I witnessed a WASPY friend of mine get HIT BADLY by her dad because she called someone
COMMUNIST (well---the kid was of Yugoslavian background-----SHEEEESH) My life was different--in the height of the hysteria my dad said --regarding the days of the depression "If you weren't a little pink, you were stupid" A statement like that could have gotten him jailed in my little WASPY town. The whole country went nuts
Do you know what it means though?
 
Do you know what it means though?
oh----it means ----I think ----the ideology of socialism as form imposed by the state---ie a system of economy. To some extent---our system is socialistic in that taxes pay for the sidewalks and the schools and an array of SOCIAL services.
 
A big theme in the movie was the US Govt continuous effort to find and destroy any communist in the USA .

They were 100 percent right.
What would they think today as virtually the entire Democratic Party is full blown communist ??

We sacrificed democracy to root out communism.

Not a winning choice
 

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