Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[Sixties Fan]

[ Using children for the "right" to reverse the results of the war of 1948 which created Israel. A Palestinian tells the truth about the "Right of return". Destroy Israel. ]

Hundreds of children bused to border protests by Hamas have been wounded, but more keep coming, entranced by the festive atmosphere and peer validation

(full article online)

For Palestinian children in Gaza, an education in conflict

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Hamas-oriented Palestine Times website has a photo essay on the rally in celebration of the 31dt anniversary of Hamas.

The photos show a very small rally - but with lots of children.



In the past, Hamas rallies would attract thousands. Not sure if this was misrepresented here or if it shows a real lessening of Hamas influence in Gaza.

(more photos online)

Hamas 31st anniversary rally underwhelming, with more kids than adults attending ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you make a couple serious mistakes in such a short sentence.

(COMMENT)

The LoN Covenant is an agreement between the parties; explicitly in and for the parties. The Allied Powers made such agreements between themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, and they agreed that the Mandates would not acquire sovereignty. Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants.

(COMMENT)

The word "sovereignty" is only used once in the League Covenant. Is is used in the first stanza of Article 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilization and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

You are grossly misleading the audience by suggesting that the Allied Powers agreed that the "Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants." It doesn't say that at all.

While it does talk about → "peoples not yet able to stand by themselves" → which describes perfectly the Arab Palestinian since the end of the Mandate.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you make a couple serious mistakes in such a short sentence.

(COMMENT)

The LoN Covenant is an agreement between the parties; explicitly in and for the parties. The Allied Powers made such agreements between themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, and they agreed that the Mandates would not acquire sovereignty. Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants.

(COMMENT)

The word "sovereignty" is only used once in the League Covenant. Is is used in the first stanza of Article 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilization and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

You are grossly misleading the audience by suggesting that the Allied Powers agreed that the "Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants." It doesn't say that at all.

While it does talk about → "peoples not yet able to stand by themselves" → which describes perfectly the Arab Palestinian since the end of the Mandate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are trying to smokescreen the issue.

My post is correct. You have nothing but say so.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you make a couple serious mistakes in such a short sentence.

(COMMENT)

The LoN Covenant is an agreement between the parties; explicitly in and for the parties. The Allied Powers made such agreements between themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, and they agreed that the Mandates would not acquire sovereignty. Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants.

(COMMENT)

The word "sovereignty" is only used once in the League Covenant. Is is used in the first stanza of Article 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilization and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

You are grossly misleading the audience by suggesting that the Allied Powers agreed that the "Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants." It doesn't say that at all.

While it does talk about → "peoples not yet able to stand by themselves" → which describes perfectly the Arab Palestinian since the end of the Mandate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are trying to smokescreen the issue.

My post is correct. You have nothing but say so.

False premise.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For instance, on Nov. 12-13, Hamas and other terror groups targeted Israeli civilians with more than 450 rockets, amounting to nearly 500 war crimes. Yet HRW, the world’s “leading human-rights group” and its director, Ken Roth, did not take notice.

Not one tweet acknowledging these war crimes and the human-rights atrocities committed against Israelis. Not one post calling for the United Nations to condemn Hamas and the terror groups responsible. Not one article encouraging the world to express support for the children who spent nights in bomb shelters and will surely suffer ongoing psychological harm. One might conclude that the Arab-Israeli conflict is not a priority for the human-rights group.

However, when it came to Palestinian riots on the Gaza border, known as the “March of Return,” conducted with the sole purpose of breaking through the border and entering Israel, HRW and Roth made this a social-media priority. At the height of the riots, on May 13-16, approximately 40 percent of Ken Roth’s tweets focused on condemning Israel for its response to the violent riots.

During the same months as the Gaza riots, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards arrested scores of women who took to the streets of Tehran demanding freedom and democracy. However, HRW devoted four times more social media attention to supporting Hamas’ riots than to defending and praising the brave Iranian women.

HRW is far from the only human-rights group with questionable Twitter priorities.

(full article online)

#HumanRightsHypocrisy

 

[Sixties Fan]

Specifically, in three of the four instances described in B’Tselem’s report, it appears that children were directly participating in the hostilities and violence along the Israel-Gaza border, an act that would fall under the UN’s definition of child soldiers. For example, B’Tselem’s testimonies describe how Fares a-Sarsawi, a 13-year-old, “rolled the tires over the fence and set them on fire. Then we pushed one tire through the fence and threw stones.” One testimony adds that “at one point, Fares climbed the main fence and threw a fire on the other side” and how he “threw stones.” A testimony referring to the death of Ahmad Abu Habel (15) explains how he and his friends would “throw stones at the soldiers and take part in the ‘night-time confusion’ demonstrations.” Suhayb Aby Kashef (16) is described as crossing the “concertina wire laid by the military close to the fence, while hurling stones with a slingshot at Israeli security forces stationed on the other side.”

Even more disturbing is the description of Naseb Musbeh (11), who B’Tselem describes as a “Red Crescent volunteer.” A simple search reveals that no other Palestinian or Israeli source describes the boy as a Red Crescent volunteer, and neither does the Red Crescent itself. Further, according to B’Tselem’s own interviews “Naser was wearing black” (ie. not the official Red Crescent white and red uniform) and that he “He didn’t get a [first aid course] certificate because he was too young.”

(full article online)

B’Tselem’s lack of human rights priorities

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Sixties Fan, et al,

I have to chuckle when Human Riths Watch (HRW)(Headquarters: New York, NY) touts itself as the leading international Human Rights Organization when it support the causes of registered terrorists and Persian Special Operators that are acting in direct opposition to American and Israeli national security interests.

It is my opinion that Kenneth Roth, a former federal prosecutor, being the CEO of HRW, is on his "no one is above the law" kick. He does not care what the consequences are. Most brain dead people like that, following blindly the path of strict compliance, seldom do. I am ashamed he is an American. If it were up to me, I work open a case on both Roth and HRW for Providing material support to terrorists (HAMAS and the IRGC) (18 U.S. Code § 2339A) in the form of promotional services and advocation. It is this confused set of signals that people like Roth and the HRW send that makes the various Palestinian Terrorist think they have the legal right "to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place." (1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings).

...

Not one tweet acknowledging these war crimes and the human-rights atrocities committed against Israelis. Not one post calling for the United Nations to condemn Hamas and the terror groups responsible.

... At the height of the riots, on May 13-16, approximately 40 percent of Ken Roth’s tweets focused on condemning Israel for its response to the violent riots.

(COMMENT)

I do not believe that Ken Roth actually understand what the customary response would be if any of the Arab League nations faced such a situation.

« Egypt begins security operation against ‘terrorists’,
closes Gaza border «
Reuters, Cairo Friday, 9 February 2018
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel Security Agency’s Long Reach in the West Bank

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Shusha, P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you make a couple serious mistakes in such a short sentence.

(COMMENT)

The LoN Covenant is an agreement between the parties; explicitly in and for the parties. The Allied Powers made such agreements between themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, and they agreed that the Mandates would not acquire sovereignty. Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants.

(COMMENT)

The word "sovereignty" is only used once in the League Covenant. Is is used in the first stanza of Article 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilization and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

You are grossly misleading the audience by suggesting that the Allied Powers agreed that the "Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants." It doesn't say that at all.

While it does talk about → "peoples not yet able to stand by themselves" → which describes perfectly the Arab Palestinian since the end of the Mandate.

Most Respectfully,
R

"Sovereignty would be in the hands of the inhabitants." It doesn't say that at all.

Yes it does.

"peoples not yet able to stand by themselves"

The Mandate could not create or designate sovereignty. That is inherent. The Palestinians had that. What the Mandate was to help create were the institutions needed for a modern state like national government, (they already had local governments) money supply, post office, etc.. Those are all the product of sovereignty not a prerequisite.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Missing Context in AP Piece Masks IDF's Humanity | HonestReporting

 

[Sixties Fan]

Submission to the inquiry on Gaza border violence - Colonel Richard Kemp

 

[Sixties Fan]

Ever so infrequently, the Summit Daily News publishes some article about the “Palestinian cause.” This past week, a reporter featured a Gazan father who took his sons to see the conflagration that occurs regularly at the border of Gaza and Israel between rioting, tire burning, border rushing, rock and firebomb-throwing Gazans and Israeli military forces. Unfortunately, one of his sons was wounded by a ricocheting bullet. The reporter went on to describe life in the Gaza Strip which, according to him, was made more miserable by an Israeli blockade. By the time I was done reading this opinion piece, I wanted to ask this reporter several, pertinent questions:

1. What responsible parent puts their child in such harm’s way? I would no sooner have exposed my kids to such a scene than I would see them handle poisonous snakes or live grenades.

2. How do the thousands of Gazans get to the border with Israel and what is their purpose for their weekly riots? Who hires the buses? Who provides the tires, fire bombs and hand grenades?

3. What other border police or army would stand for being pelted with rocks and incendiaries? What troops would tolerate attempts to forcibly invade their border? And what purpose is behind those attempts to breach border fences and barriers?

4. Are you not aware of Hamas’ usage of human shields?

5. Are you not aware that Hamas and others have placed rocket launchers in and under schools, hospitals and homes?

6. Have you not read Hamas’ charter which calls for the annihilation of Israel?

7. Are you as a reporter doing enough background and historical research to even know what you are talking about or presenting?

8. Are you remotely aware of the biases you have brought to your piece?

9. Have you seen the destruction of the agricultural fields and forests adjacent to the Gaza Strip which have been burned because of fire bomb-carrying balloons?

10. Have you taken account of the hundreds and hundreds of rockets, mortars and missiles that Hamas and an Iranian-backed and prompted group called Islamic Jihad have fired into Israel over the past number of months, or the attack tunnels which the IDF has located and destroyed — a tunnel into Israeli territory for the purpose of kidnapping and murdering Israeli civilians?

11. Are you aware of the tons and tons of goods and materials that flow through the Kerem Shalom check point from Israel to Gaza daily (that is when Hamas or its surrogates aren’t attacking and blowing up this crossing)?


Your piece featured an irresponsible parent and then went on to attempt to raise sympathy for him and to what he exposed his children to. My question is, if given the chance to do it over, would he make the same mistake?

For your next venture into explaining the Gaza Strip, you might ask yourself why no one seems to want to rule this piece of land? Why not the Egyptians or the Israelis? Why did Israel give up the Gaza Strip in August of 2005? You might ask why there is no adequate sewage treatment or water system in Gaza? Why does sewage from Gaza flow untreated into the Mediterranean Sea, spreading north and winding up on Israeli beaches? Why isn’t electrical service full time in Gaza? What has happened to the groundwater there and why does the drinking water now taste salty? Why, given the millions and billions Hamas has received, hasn’t it built better hospitals, schools and housing for its people, instead of throwing these funds into the building of a vast tunnel system under the Gaza Strip and preparing hundreds if not thousands of rockets for firing into the Jewish state?

Given its location on the shores of the Mediterranean, Gaza could one day be a glorious resort location complete with air and seaports. But as long as it is ruled by the likes of Hamas, none of this, tragically, will ever come to pass.

(full article online)

Watchdog of the Week: Questions for the Reporter on a Gazan Father | HonestReporting

 

[P F Tinmore]

Submission to the inquiry on Gaza border violence - Colonel Richard Kemp

You realize that stooge Kemp is a paid shill for Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Submission to the inquiry on Gaza border violence - Colonel Richard Kemp

You realize that stooge Kemp is a paid shill for Israel.

Says the who needs to delegitimize everyone who says the truth about Israel and beats up the Palestinians.

 

[Sixties Fan]

BBC Radio 4 ‘Today’ Gaza Strip special – part one


BBC Radio 4 ‘Today’ Gaza Strip special – part two


BBC Radio 4 ‘Today’ Gaza Strip special – part three

 

[Sixties Fan]

Today's theme is "loyalty to the heroes of resistance in the West Bank."

The statement issued along with the announcement said "The Palestinian people have the right to resist the occupation in all forms guaranteed by international laws" - a patently false statement - and it called for "an escalation of the resistance to the Israeli offensive on the West Bank."

Meaning that they are urging West Bank Arabs to shoot more pregnant women and stab more children and any other Jews they can find in Judea and Samaria.

Ironically, all the recent attacks occurred in drive-by shootings, on the very roads that Israel haters keep claiming are "for Jews only."

(full article online)

Today's "peaceful" Gaza protest theme is to encourage West Bank Arabs to kill more Jews ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

On Dec. 11, the Gaza Strip’s Hamas-run Health Ministry reported that 4-year-old Ahmed Abu Abed died after he was injured by Israeli gunfire during protests at the border with Israel the previous Friday. Notably, the ministry has a history of placing responsibility on Israel for child fatalities, and then later backpedaling as more information emerges.

Perhaps with that history in mind, the Agence France Presse reportedcautiously about Abu Abed: “It was not clear why the child had been taken to the border protests and there was no independent confirmation of the circumstances.”

The Associated Press (“Gaza officials: 4-year-old boy dies from Israeli fire“), for its part, apparently sought to fill in with more information, reporting: “Local journalist Hassan Islaieh [sic] said Tuesday the boy was with this father and dozens of other protesters when he was hit by shrapnel Friday. He says the boy was about 20 meters (yards) from the fence.”

According to Electronic Intifada, Isleih is “a camera operator with Quds TV,” which is Hamas-affiliated. If that’s the case, then Isleih hardly provides independent confirmation of Hamas’ claim. AP did not disclose any information about Isleih’s affiliations, professional or ideological.

A review of his Twitter account reveals that Hassan Isleih openly identifies with Hamas’s political platform and is an anti-Semite who praises terrorists and expresses joy over the murder of innocent and unarmed Israelis.

(full article online)

When is a journalist not a reliable eyewitness?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Cultural appropriation reaches high pitch as PA perennially pilfers people's personal portion for their protests.

Every year, Muslim rioters don Santa costumes to provide an appetizing photo opportunity for foreign photojournalists to send back home, and this year is no different. Here are scenes from years past of "Palestinian" rioters bringing holiday cheer:

(full article online)

PA rioters hide behind Santa costumes

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Nope, one could not call this a military. Not in Gaza. ]


Palestinian fighters from Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Hamas terror organization, attend a rally in Gaza City on December 16, 2018, marking the 31st anniversary of the Islamist group's founding. (Said Khatib/AFP)

Hamas says it’s weighing response to Israeli ‘stupidity’ after 4 killed in riots