Palin nukes PP with the question Which symbol killed 90,000 black babies last year?

Are you opposed to organ and tissue donation in all cases, or just for PP?


The fake moral equivalency argument. :thup: A Liberal golden oldie.


Let's see.....is there a difference between a legal adult who chooses to donate an organ when they die, or an unborn child who is given zero rights and zero choice....and then has their organs sold off for profit?

I wonder......??? :eusa_shifty:


Abortion is legal. We're talking about tissue donation.


Your false moral equivalency was what I was talking about. Comparing an adult making an informed decision about organ donation versus an unborn child who has zero rights and zero choice.

Being willfully obtuse is not a virtue. Try again. :(


Obviously, your issue is that you want to ban abortion. Sorry, but that question has already been answered, and it is a perfectly legal procedure. Back to the subject at hand. The woman having the legal procedure done is who voluntarily donates the tissue. You have every right to oppose abortion if that is what you choose, but misrepresenting the donation of tissue that has a direct impact on advancing medicine is just disgusting. Has the right completely forgotten what honesty is?


Honesty?
It's the left who have not taught the history of the founders of planned parenthood and their agenda.

Then write a book about what you think their reasoning was 100 years ago when it was founded. I'm not too sure about some of the claims made about it's founding, but a lot has changed over the last century. That has nothing to do with the purpose of PP today.
 
Your false moral equivalency was what I was talking about. Comparing an adult making an informed decision about organ donation versus an unborn child who has zero rights and zero choice.

Being willfully obtuse is not a virtue. Try again. :(


Obviously, your issue is that you want to ban abortion. Sorry, but that question has already been answered, and it is a perfectly legal procedure. Back to the subject at hand. The woman having the legal procedure done is who voluntarily donates the tissue. You have every right to oppose abortion if that is what you choose, but misrepresenting the donation of tissue that has a direct impact on advancing medicine is just disgusting. Has the right completely forgotten what honesty is?


Honesty?
It's the left who have not taught the history of the founders of planned parenthood and their agenda.

You want to take choice away from black women because you think that will make their lives better?

Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.
 
Obviously, your issue is that you want to ban abortion. Sorry, but that question has already been answered, and it is a perfectly legal procedure. Back to the subject at hand. The woman having the legal procedure done is who voluntarily donates the tissue. You have every right to oppose abortion if that is what you choose, but misrepresenting the donation of tissue that has a direct impact on advancing medicine is just disgusting. Has the right completely forgotten what honesty is?


Honesty?
It's the left who have not taught the history of the founders of planned parenthood and their agenda.

You want to take choice away from black women because you think that will make their lives better?

Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.

You're either pro-choice or you want abortion illegal. Which is it?
 
And people are finding this offensive and sickening. Deep down people are feeling hey that's just so wrong on so many levels. Trust has also been destroyed, certainly trust in Planned Parenthood. Now people are wondering what the hell else has been going on here.


Are you opposed to organ and tissue donation in all cases, or just for PP?


The fake moral equivalency argument. :thup: A Liberal golden oldie.


Let's see.....is there a difference between a legal adult who chooses to donate an organ when they die, or an unborn child who is given zero rights and zero choice....and then has their organs sold off for profit?

I wonder......??? :eusa_shifty:


Abortion is legal. We're talking about tissue donation.


Your false moral equivalency was what I was talking about. Comparing an adult making an informed decision about organ donation versus an unborn child who has zero rights and zero choice.

Being willfully obtuse is not a virtue. Try again. :(


Obviously, your issue is that you want to ban abortion. Sorry, but that question has already been answered, and it is a perfectly legal procedure. Back to the subject at hand. The woman having the legal procedure done is who voluntarily donates the tissue. You have every right to oppose abortion if that is what you choose, but misrepresenting the donation of tissue that has a direct impact on advancing medicine is just disgusting. Has the right completely forgotten what honesty is?


I'm pro-choice, but those videos are horrid. There is no way to spin the callousness of what those doctors said.

Second.....I question how much true informed consent is given by the mothers. I would need to see proof that the harvesting of baby organs is fully explained to the mothers.
 
Honesty?
It's the left who have not taught the history of the founders of planned parenthood and their agenda.

You want to take choice away from black women because you think that will make their lives better?

Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.

You're either pro-choice or you want abortion illegal. Which is it?

What is wrong with wanting to have women fully educated before they make that decision and no tax money for funding it
That is what the majority of the people of this nation are for.
 
I think it's great the left is defending those videos, Planned Parenthood, and the callous shit those doctors said.

Please do continue. :D That should be a real winner for you come election time. :lol:
 
You want to take choice away from black women because you think that will make their lives better?

Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.

You're either pro-choice or you want abortion illegal. Which is it?

What is wrong with wanting to have women fully educated before they make that decision and no tax money for funding it
That is what the majority of the people of this nation are for.
If the Pro-Lifers had their way all pregnant women would have to attend classes on abortion, for between 6 and 9 months to be full informed before having one.

At graduation you receive a certificate of completion, and a diaper bag...
 
Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.

You're either pro-choice or you want abortion illegal. Which is it?

What is wrong with wanting to have women fully educated before they make that decision and no tax money for funding it
That is what the majority of the people of this nation are for.
If the Pro-Lifers had their way all pregnant women would have to attend classes on abortion, for between 6 and 9 months to be full informed before having one...


link
 
The Forced birth Movement aka the "women are incubators"club ...no somatic sovereignty for females movement ...


The forced genocide and eugenics movement brought to you by Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood.

Oh....and after we kill your black baby we'll sell the body parts and you get shit.

Keep telling yourself you have the moral high ground chuckles. Sorry...no one believes you. Those days are done.....forever. :(
 
In a Wednesday Washington Post op-ed, Planned Parenthood Federation of America President Cecile Richards defended the organization.

"These extremists created a fake business, made apparently misleading corporate filings and then used false government identifications to gain access to Planned Parenthood’s medical and research staff with the agenda of secretly filming without consent — then heavily edited the footage to make false and absurd assertions about our standards and services," she wrote.

"They spent three years doing everything they could — not to uncover wrongdoing, but rather to create it. They failed."
Another Planned Parenthood Sting Video Comes Just Before Senate Defund Vote
 
Nope. What you have are the direct words of the Planned Parenthood doctors. Those words are callous and disgusting.

A jackass writer for the Washington Post cannot change the thoughts and words those doctors expressed. Nothing can change it.

Your post = Fail. :(
 
In a Wednesday Washington Post op-ed, Planned Parenthood Federation of America President Cecile Richards defended the organization.

"These extremists created a fake business, made apparently misleading corporate filings and then used false government identifications to gain access to Planned Parenthood’s medical and research staff with the agenda of secretly filming without consent — then heavily edited the footage to make false and absurd assertions about our standards and services," she wrote.

"They spent three years doing everything they could — not to uncover wrongdoing, but rather to create it. They failed."
Another Planned Parenthood Sting Video Comes Just Before Senate Defund Vote


Doesn't change the fact that people are changing their minds when reading 3D ultrasounds especially with our young people.
 
Some Of The Videos Targeting Planned Parenthood May Be Illegal Court Rules ThinkProgress

An anti-abortion group that has so far released four inflammatory videos accusing Planned Parenthood of profiting from the sale of “aborted baby parts” will not be allowed to publish additional footage featuring a California company that facilitates fetal tissue donation, thanks to a temporary restraining order issued by the Los Angeles Superior Court.

The court order issued this week blocks the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) from releasing video footage featuring employees who work at StemExpress, a biological company that partners with some Planned Parenthood clinics to help transfer fetal tissue donations to medical research facilities
 
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Doesn't change the fact that people are changing their minds when reading 3D ultrasounds especially with our young people.
No one is being forced to undergo abortions so great ...women though are being subjected to mandatory videos and mandatory vaginal probes
 
Honesty?
It's the left who have not taught the history of the founders of planned parenthood and their agenda.

You want to take choice away from black women because you think that will make their lives better?

Who said that?
I didn't.
Stop reading into things that are not said.
Wanting all women well informed is not stopping abortions.

So you're pro-choice and STILL you're ragging on Planned Parenthood?

You're crazier every day.


How about you only see one way of the other and nothing else in between.

You're either pro-choice or you want abortion illegal. Which is it?


Exactly. The entire reason for the recent videos is to stir up anti abortion nerves. It has nothing to do with tissue donation, because they haven't shown how PP does a single thing different than any other medical facility concerning tissue donation.
 
Some Of The Videos Targeting Planned Parenthood May Be Illegal Court Rules ThinkProgress

An anti-abortion group that has so far released four inflammatory videos accusing Planned Parenthood of profiting from the sale of “aborted baby parts” will not be allowed to publish additional footage featuring a California company that facilitates fetal tissue donation, thanks to a temporary restraining order issued by the Los Angeles Superior Court.

The court order issued this week blocks the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) from releasing video footage featuring employees who work at StemExpress, a biological company that partners with some Planned Parenthood clinics to help transfer fetal tissue donations to medical research facilities


Those doctors words are out there. They said what they said. It cannot be changed. The vast majority of Americans are disgusted and horrified by the doctors....their callousness....and their actions.

Even Planned Parenthood apologized for "the tone." Bernie Sanders agreed. Even Hillary Clinton is backtracking.

This issue is a loser for Dems. A huge loser. :(
 

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