Private Gun ownership Save Lives.

OriginalShroom

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjyfxWQsjGw]Barber drops clippers and grabs his gun, stops armed robbery (Ohio) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya-mHnAQciM]Home invaders kick in door, find woman with a handgun (Oklahoma) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYO7iifv6no]Home intruder shot in chest, collapses on video (Michigan) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpFp3LF7ykg]12-year-old Girl Shoots Intruder During Home Invasion(Watch) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQcoNr6ZIEc]14yr Old Shoots Armed Home Intruder While Protecting Siblings - YouTube[/ame]
 
Are more lives saved or destroyed by guns? Think about it...

Is there a sucker born every minute? Yes, I'm looking at one. Hey, have shovels, traffic cones, cars, cancer, wet floor signs, and wet floors in general all killed more than guns? Yes, lets think about it.
 
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32,000 gun deaths a year in the US. By 2015, death by firearms will exceed deaths from auto accidents. A person is 43 times as likely to be killed by their own gun in their home than by a someone breaking in.

And were guns not so readily available, we would not be having the crimes stats that we do concerning guns.
 
If more guns=more security, we would have the fewest gun deaths in the history of the planet since our society, by far, has the most guns in the hands of its citizens. Instead, we're among the leaders and are the leader in "advanced" societies.

Those are the facts and now back to the spin.
 
Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.

Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study
 
Having a gun in the home can save your life. But it's a lot more likely to put a bullet in you or a member of your family than a robber.

Still- Putting a bullet in a bad guy is the objective.

Saving my families lives from the criminals our government enables, is foremost

-Geaux
 
Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.

Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study

If I want to off myself, and a gun is not available, there are plenty other methods of choice

Risk- Sure, if I did not own (2) motorcycles I could reduce my risk of dying in the streets.

Acceptable risk

-Geaux
 
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If more guns=more security, we would have the fewest gun deaths in the history of the planet since our society, by far, has the most guns in the hands of its citizens. Instead, we're among the leaders and are the leader in "advanced" societies.

Those are the facts and now back to the spin.

You're exactly right.

Actually, the US is the world's leading industrial nation in gun-related homicide. No other developed country has even half of the gun-related murders the US does.

We will now see about 25 pages of abuse, trolling and excuses by the NRA drones.
 
If I want to off myself, and a gun is not available, there are plenty other methods of choice

-Geaux

Possibly - but research shows that because suicide with a gun is faster, more effective and requires less planning than, say, drug overdose (where the drugs needs to be acquired), more fatal suicides take place in homes with guns than homes without. Many suicides involving drugs or razor blades fail - very few fail when guns are involved.

This is not a theory; it's a fact.
 
32,000 gun deaths a year in the US. By 2015, death by firearms will exceed deaths from auto accidents. A person is 43 times as likely to be killed by their own gun in their home than by a someone breaking in.

And were guns not so readily available, we would not be having the crimes stats that we do concerning guns.

The 43 times crap has been debunked numerous times already.

Stop using it.

Also, car deaths have been showing a downward trend for years, with gun deaths on average stable over the period shown.

American Gun Deaths to Exceed Traffic Fatalities by 2015 - Bloomberg
 
Vulnerability to Violent Crime

* At the current homicide rate, roughly one in every 240 Americans will be murdered.[23]

* A U.S. Justice Department study based on crime data from 1974-1985 found:

• 42% of Americans will be the victim of a completed violent crime (assault, robbery, rape) in the course of their lives
• 83% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime
• 52% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime more than once[24]

* A 1997 survey of more than 18,000 prison inmates found that among those serving time for a violent crime, "30% of State offenders and 35% of Federal offenders carried a firearm when committing the crime."[25]

└ Criminal Justice System

* Nationwide in 2008, law enforcement agencies reported that 55% of aggravated assaults, 27% of robberies, 40% of rapes, and 64% of murders that were reported to police resulted in an alleged offender being arrested and turned over for prosecution.[26] [27]

* Currently, for every 12 aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders committed in the United States, approximately one person is sentenced to prison for committing such a crime.[28] [29] [30]

* A 2002 U.S. Justice Department study of 272,111 felons released from state prisons in 1994 found that within three years of their release:

• at least 67.5% had been arrested for committing a new offense
• at least 21.6% had been arrested for committing a new violent offense
• these former inmates had been charged with committing at least 2,871 new homicides, 2,444 new rapes, 3,151 other new sexual assaults, 2,362 new kidnappings, 21,245 new robberies, 54,604 new assaults, and 13,854 other new violent crimes[31]

* Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.[32]

└ Washington, DC

* In 1976, the Washington, D.C. City Council passed a law generally prohibiting residents from possessing handguns and requiring that all firearms in private homes be (1) kept unloaded and (2) rendered temporally inoperable via disassembly or installation of a trigger lock. The law became operative on Sept. 24, 1976.[33] [34]

* On June 26, 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-4 ruling, struck down this law as unconstitutional.[35]


[36]

* During the years in which the D.C. handgun ban and trigger lock law was in effect, the Washington, D.C. murder rate averaged 73% higher than it was at the outset of the law, while the U.S. murder rate averaged 11% lower.[37]
 
Having a gun in the home can save your life. But it's a lot more likely to put a bullet in you or a member of your family than a robber.

Thats a misuse of statistics, and you know it, as it relies on the fact that you and your family are in your house alot more than the burglar/rapist/murderer in question.

What matters is when someone actually tries to violate your property, at that moment having a gun can be the difference between being alive, and being a corpse for the police and cornoner to collect.
 
32,000 gun deaths a year in the US. By 2015, death by firearms will exceed deaths from auto accidents. A person is 43 times as likely to be killed by their own gun in their home than by a someone breaking in.

And were guns not so readily available, we would not be having the crimes stats that we do concerning guns.

do you liarberals ever get tired of lying your fucking faces off ??
A person is 43 times as likely to be killed by their own gun

this lie has been put in the shredder a few thousand times. :up:
 
What a silly argument.

From both sides this kind of debate is just plain old silly.
 
Are more lives saved or destroyed by guns? Think about it...

So those people should have been defenseless and possibly killed or raped because someone else might get hurt by a gun?

Yeah that's liberal logic.
 

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