"privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy,"

[berg80]

I hadn't seen that before.

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election

Special counsel Jack Smith has filed a blockbuster court filing outlining new details of former President Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.

abcnews.go.com

Jack Smith's fuller 2020 election case against Trump is publicly released

State of play: Smith in the motion wrote that Trump's "scheme was a private criminal effort." He emphasized throughout the document that the former president was acting in his capacity as a candidate, not a president.

• This is an apparent attempt by Smith to respond to the bombshell Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said that presidents have immunity for "official acts."
• "At its core, the defendant's scheme was a private one; he extensively used private actors and his Campaign infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results and operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office," Smith wrote.

Zoom in: Smith also accused Trump of knowing "his fraud claims were false because he continued to make those claims even after his close advisors—acting not in an official capacity but in a private or campaign-related capacity—told him they were not true."

• "At one point long after the defendant had begun spreading false fraud claims, a White House staffer traveling with [Trump], overheard him tell family members that 'it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell,'" Smith wrote.
• Smith also outlined numerous instances of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence telling Trump that there was no evidence of fraud.

The special counsel wrote that "when all else had failed" for the former president in his bid to cling to power, he "directed an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification."

• He wrote that Trump used the false claims about the election to "inflame and motivate the large and angry crowd of his supporters to march to the Capitol and disrupt the certification proceeding."

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-filing-2020-election

Smith is trying to give the full picture to fend off claims of immunity from prosecution.

 

[Auld Phart]

I hadn't seen that before.

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election

Special counsel Jack Smith has filed a blockbuster court filing outlining new details of former President Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.

abcnews.go.com

Jack Smith's fuller 2020 election case against Trump is publicly released

State of play: Smith in the motion wrote that Trump's "scheme was a private criminal effort." He emphasized throughout the document that the former president was acting in his capacity as a candidate, not a president.

• This is an apparent attempt by Smith to respond to the bombshell Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said that presidents have immunity for "official acts."
• "At its core, the defendant's scheme was a private one; he extensively used private actors and his Campaign infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results and operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office," Smith wrote.

Zoom in: Smith also accused Trump of knowing "his fraud claims were false because he continued to make those claims even after his close advisors—acting not in an official capacity but in a private or campaign-related capacity—told him they were not true."

• "At one point long after the defendant had begun spreading false fraud claims, a White House staffer traveling with [Trump], overheard him tell family members that 'it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell,'" Smith wrote.
• Smith also outlined numerous instances of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence telling Trump that there was no evidence of fraud.

The special counsel wrote that "when all else had failed" for the former president in his bid to cling to power, he "directed an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification."

• He wrote that Trump used the false claims about the election to "inflame and motivate the large and angry crowd of his supporters to march to the Capitol and disrupt the certification proceeding."

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-filing-2020-election

Smith is trying to give the full picture to fend off claims of immunity from prosecution.

 

[excalibur]

I hadn't seen that before.

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election

Special counsel Jack Smith has filed a blockbuster court filing outlining new details of former President Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.

abcnews.go.com

Jack Smith's fuller 2020 election case against Trump is publicly released

State of play: Smith in the motion wrote that Trump's "scheme was a private criminal effort." He emphasized throughout the document that the former president was acting in his capacity as a candidate, not a president.

• This is an apparent attempt by Smith to respond to the bombshell Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said that presidents have immunity for "official acts."
• "At its core, the defendant's scheme was a private one; he extensively used private actors and his Campaign infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results and operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office," Smith wrote.

Zoom in: Smith also accused Trump of knowing "his fraud claims were false because he continued to make those claims even after his close advisors—acting not in an official capacity but in a private or campaign-related capacity—told him they were not true."

• "At one point long after the defendant had begun spreading false fraud claims, a White House staffer traveling with [Trump], overheard him tell family members that 'it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell,'" Smith wrote.
• Smith also outlined numerous instances of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence telling Trump that there was no evidence of fraud.

The special counsel wrote that "when all else had failed" for the former president in his bid to cling to power, he "directed an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification."

• He wrote that Trump used the false claims about the election to "inflame and motivate the large and angry crowd of his supporters to march to the Capitol and disrupt the certification proceeding."

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-filing-2020-election

Smith is trying to give the full picture to fend off claims of immunity from prosecution.

Desperation time for you guys.

Latino Voters Are Leaving The Democrats For The GOP at Historic Pace

Latino voters are hastily leaving the Democrats in a major blow to Kamala Harris. An NBC News/Telemundo/CNBC Latino poll found that 54% of Latino voters planned to vote for the Vice President, givi…

wokespy.com

 

[mamooth]

As is the case every time, Trump cultists won't even try to address the facts.

Because they can't address the facts, and they know it.

All the Trump cultists know they're tonguebathing a traitor and criminal. They act like that because they're fascist shit humans.

 

[BrokeLoser]

As is the case every time, Trump cultists won't even try to address the facts.

Because they can't address the facts, and they know it.

All the Trump cultists know they're tonguebathing a traitor and criminal. They act like that because they're fascist shit humans.

Facts?
Like men can’t become women?
Are you sure you know what a fact is?

 

[mamooth]

Facts?

Look at this one deflect and run!

Expected, of course. Trump is a cowardly, so all his followers feel compelled to act the same way. If a human possesses gonads and a spine, they'll reject the Trump cult.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I hadn't seen that before.

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election

Special counsel Jack Smith has filed a blockbuster court filing outlining new details of former President Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.

abcnews.go.com

Jack Smith's fuller 2020 election case against Trump is publicly released

State of play: Smith in the motion wrote that Trump's "scheme was a private criminal effort." He emphasized throughout the document that the former president was acting in his capacity as a candidate, not a president.

• This is an apparent attempt by Smith to respond to the bombshell Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said that presidents have immunity for "official acts."
• "At its core, the defendant's scheme was a private one; he extensively used private actors and his Campaign infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results and operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office," Smith wrote.

Zoom in: Smith also accused Trump of knowing "his fraud claims were false because he continued to make those claims even after his close advisors—acting not in an official capacity but in a private or campaign-related capacity—told him they were not true."

• "At one point long after the defendant had begun spreading false fraud claims, a White House staffer traveling with [Trump], overheard him tell family members that 'it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell,'" Smith wrote.
• Smith also outlined numerous instances of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence telling Trump that there was no evidence of fraud.

The special counsel wrote that "when all else had failed" for the former president in his bid to cling to power, he "directed an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification."

• He wrote that Trump used the false claims about the election to "inflame and motivate the large and angry crowd of his supporters to march to the Capitol and disrupt the certification proceeding."

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-filing-2020-election

Smith is trying to give the full picture to fend off claims of immunity from prosecution.

This is great. Now I have something to read tonight.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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So?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As is the case every time, Trump cultists won't even try to address the facts.

Because they can't address the facts, and they know it.

Yup.

Look at these sissies roll up into little balls.

 

[berg80]

As is the case every time, Trump cultists won't even try to address the facts.

Because they can't address the facts, and they know it.

All the Trump cultists know they're tonguebathing a traitor and criminal. They act like that because they're fascist shit humans.

Here are some of the facts they desperately want to avoid.

11 damning details in Jack Smith’s new brief in the Trump election case​

Special counsel Jack Smith won’t get a chance to bring his best criminal case against Donald Trump to trial before the 2024 election — and if Trump wins, Smith probably will never get that chance. But on Wednesday, the public got its most complete look at the evidence Smith has amassed to try to prove that the former president orchestrated criminal conspiracies as he sought to overturn his loss four years ago.

In a 165-page legal brief unsealed by a federal judge (albeit with some redactions), the special counsel fleshed out detailed evidence he would use against Trump at trial, if the case ever makes it that far. Smith also presented his arguments for why Trump is not immune from the charges, despite the Supreme Court’s ruling over the summer that granted presidents broad immunity for official acts.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-election-brief-details-00182287

There's one item not mentioned in this article. It's trump telling Pence, after Pence refused to go along with the fake elector scheme, that he was "too honest." Showing trump's state of mind. He understood what he was asking Pence to do was not legal.

 

[berg80]

The defendant asserts that he is immune from prosecution for his criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 presidential election because, he claims, it entailed official conduct. Not so. Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one. Working with a team of private co-conspirators, the defendant acted as a candidate when he pursued multiple criminal means to disrupt, through fraud and deceit, the government function by which votes are collected and counted—a function in which the defendant, as President, had no official role. In Trump v. United States, 144 S. Ct. 2312 (2024), the Supreme Court held that presidents are immune from prosecution for certain official conduct—including the defendant’s use of the Justice Department in furtherance of his scheme, as was alleged in the original indictment—and remanded to this Court to determine whether the remaining allegations against the defendant are immunized. The answer to that question is no. This motion provides a comprehensive account of the defendant’s private criminal conduct; sets forth the legal framework created by Trump for resolving immunity claims; applies that framework to establish that none of the defendant’s charged conduct is immunized because it either was unofficial or any presumptive immunity is rebutted; and requests the relief the Government seeks, which is, at bottom, this: that the Court determine that the defendant must stand trial for his private crimes as would any other citizen.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf

 

[berg80]

‘Make them riot’ — Trump election case judge unseals special counsel motion on immunity​

A federal judge on Wednesday unsealed a redacted motion by special counsel Jack Smith detailing evidence against former President Donald Trump in his criminal election interference case in Washington, D.C.

Smith’s 165-page filing argued that the Republican presidential nominee can still be prosecuted for his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, despite a Supreme Court ruling in July that Trump has presumptive immunity for his official presidential acts.

“When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office,” Smith wrote.

“With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost,” he wrote.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/02/trump-special-counsel-evidence-election-harris.html

The details in the filing are incredibly damning. Which is why members of The Following will not read it.

 

[berg80]

Look at this one deflect and run!

Expected, of course. Trump is a cowardly, so all his followers feel compelled to act the same way. If a human possesses gonads and a spine, they'll reject the Trump cult.

trumpery fills some sort of psychological hole for them. He gives them license to harbor bigotry, hatred of minorities, grievance for their small lives, and justifies self pity for their failures.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Jack Smith's latest DOJ filing is 165 pages and contains new revelations regarding Jan 6. Smith submitted this filing after the Supreme Court's recent ruling regarding presidential immunity.

The description below is from 4 Nov 2020, when a Trump operative named Mike Roman realized that Trump was going to lose the state of Michigan.

Never forget that MAGA Republicans are Nazis and that they will never accept election defeat anymore. --

In a vivid scene from the main vote-counting facility in Detroit on Nov. 4, the memo describes one Trump campaign operative, whose description matches Election Day operations chief Mike Roman, trying to sow confusion and unrest even as he was being told that Biden’s lead was accurate.

When another operative told Roman that a new batch of freshly counted votes that heavily favored Biden were accurate, Roman responded, “find a reason it isnt.” He went on to say, “give me options to file litigation,” even if the count was accurate, prosecutors wrote.

“When the colleague suggested that there was about to be unrest reminiscent of the Brooks Brothers Riot, a violent effort to stop the vote count in Florida after the 2000 presidential election, [Roman] responded, ‘Make them riot’ and ‘Do it!!!’” the filing alleges.

Roman’s Twitter post from the facility that night tracks with Smith’s description: “TRUMP Challengers being ejected from ballot canvassing in Detroit! The Steal is on!!” he wrote, starting his post with two siren emojis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/10/02/jack-smith-filing-trump-immunity-jan-6/

 

[Rambunctious]

Making up laws... judge shopping... disregarding supreme court rulings... releasing this latest news for election interference... lying about what Trump did and said... Smith should go to prison for treason....

 

[Oddball]

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Making up laws... judge shopping... disregarding supreme court rulings... releasing this latest news for election interference... lying about what Trump did and said... Smith should go to prison for treason....

Smith is simply describing what Trump Nazis said and did before and during Jan 6. The evidence is there, such as Mark Roman's idiotic, lying tweets above.

If you are too much of a cry baby to accept it, that's your problem.

 

[berg80]

Smith's filing drives a stake thru the argument trump is immune from prosecution by detailing how his scheme to overturn the election were outside the protections his Court afforded him in their bizarre immunity ruling unsupported by the Constitution.

 

[whitehall]

"Startling revelations"? Foolish attempt at drama from WAPO. The dirty little secret is that a crooked regime could indict any one of us for "conspiracy" if we disagreed with them politically. The sad thing is that the mainstream media that we should trust to tell the truth has become the willing stooge of the democrat party.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

"Startling revelations"? Foolish attempt at drama from WAPO. The dirty little secret is that a crooked regime could indict any one of us for "conspiracy" if we disagreed with them politically. The sad thing is that the mainstream media that we should trust to tell the truth has become the willing stooge of the democrat party.

You can't refute what Mike Roman did and you know it. -- He literally made shit up.

So just stuff it.