Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit ‘Irrational’ – ‘Based On Nonsense’ –

[Freewill]

I must admit we are having one of the warmer Novembers I can remember, loving it!!!

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' - 'Based On Nonsense' - 'Leading us down a false path'

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore on climate claims: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/scientists-declare-un-climate-summit-goals-irrational-based-on-nonsense-leading-us-down-a-false-path/#ixzz3s2Kc3U

1. 
   Richard Lindzen
   Physicist
   Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.Wikipedia
   
   Born: February 8, 1940 (age 75),Webster, MA
   Education: Harvard University
   Fields: Atmospheric physics
   Doctoral advisor: Richard M. Goody
   Books: Climate Change: The Facts

1. 
   William Happer
   Physicist
   William Happer is an American physicist who has specialised in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy.Wikipedia
   
   Born: July 27, 1939 (age 76), India
   Education: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
   Fields: Atomic physics
   Notable awards: Davisson–Germer Prize in Atomic or Surface Physics

1. 
   Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist and former president of Greenpeace Canada. He trades as Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, and is a frequent public speaker on behalf of industry groups. Wikipedia
   
   Born: 1947, Port Alice, Canada
   Organizations founded: Greenpeace
   Education: University of British Columbia,North Carolina State University
   Books: Green Spirit: Trees are the Answer

 

[DGS49]

What do they do with HERETICS these days?

The worst environmental crime committed by Congress in decades occurred when they allowed the EPA to define CO2 as a "pollutant." Almost as bad as when they allowed Federal courts to declare that a human-in-utero was not a "person."

 

[Freewill]

What do they do with HERETICS these days?

The worst environmental crime committed by Congress in decades occurred when they allowed the EPA to define CO2 as a "pollutant." Almost as bad as when they allowed Federal courts to declare that a human-in-utero was not a "person."

I am not sure anyone allowed them to do either, it is part of the decay.

 

[SwimExpert]

Yeah, but those guys don't count. They're not real scientists. Here's the definition of a real scientist:

1. A person who says global warming is happening, that it is bad, and that people are causing it.
2. A person who says the polar bears are gonna die next year.
3. A person who repeats the statement next year.

 

[amrchaos]

Regulating Carbon Dioxide is like trying to regulate Oxygen, Nitrogen, Water Vapors.

Hey wait--those are life promoting beneficial gases!! Stick to Regulating Carbon Monoxide, which is a poison and major pollutant!

 

[Silhouette]

Alternate title for this thread: "Unscrupulous swine with degrees paid well by industry moguls to gaslight the UN into doing their master's bidding by un-making the reality they're sure they're seeing inching up on the seawalls along their coastal regions."

 

[amrchaos]

The scientist did not declare AGW is false, but some of the policies endorsed are fruitty at best.

Maybe we need to start investigating how to create a global terraforming science because, as things stand, I don't think the AGW group have practical solutions to the problem.

 

[Freewill]

Record Crushing Fraud From NOAA And NASA Ahead Of Paris

 

[tinydancer]

Minimum five ice ages. Global warming in between.

This is bullshit.

 

[tinydancer]

I just want any of the idiots to explain to me the "little ice age".

 

[SwimExpert]

Minimum five ice ages. Global warming in between.

This is bullshit.

In fact, the world is currently in an ice age. We're in an inter-glacial period within the Quaternary ice age.

 

[Billy000]

I must admit we are having one of the warmer Novembers I can remember, loving it!!!

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' - 'Based On Nonsense' - 'Leading us down a false path'

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore on climate claims: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/scientists-declare-un-climate-summit-goals-irrational-based-on-nonsense-leading-us-down-a-false-path/#ixzz3s2Kc3U

1. 
   Richard Lindzen
   Physicist
   Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.Wikipedia
   
   Born: February 8, 1940 (age 75),Webster, MA
   Education: Harvard University
   Fields: Atmospheric physics
   Doctoral advisor: Richard M. Goody
   Books: Climate Change: The Facts

1. 
   William Happer
   Physicist
   William Happer is an American physicist who has specialised in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy.Wikipedia
   
   Born: July 27, 1939 (age 76), India
   Education: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
   Fields: Atomic physics
   Notable awards: Davisson–Germer Prize in Atomic or Surface Physics

1. 
   Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist and former president of Greenpeace Canada. He trades as Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, and is a frequent public speaker on behalf of industry groups. Wikipedia
   
   Born: 1947, Port Alice, Canada
   Organizations founded: Greenpeace
   Education: University of British Columbia,North Carolina State University
   Books: Green Spirit: Trees are the Answer

What I find hilarious about you cons is that you have no problem cherry picking when it comes to climate change. You intentionally ignore the fact that the vast majority of PEER-REVIEWED studies from around the world say man made climate change is real and cherry pick a handful ofbscientists who dissent. Not only that , but you choose scientists who aren't even involved in the discipline of climatology. It's kind of embarrassing.

Maybe you should just admit that deep down you know this phenomenon to be true and it scares you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I must admit we are having one of the warmer Novembers I can remember, loving it!!!

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' - 'Based On Nonsense' - 'Leading us down a false path'

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore on climate claims: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/scientists-declare-un-climate-summit-goals-irrational-based-on-nonsense-leading-us-down-a-false-path/#ixzz3s2Kc3U

1. 
   Richard Lindzen
   Physicist
   Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.Wikipedia
   
   Born: February 8, 1940 (age 75),Webster, MA
   Education: Harvard University
   Fields: Atmospheric physics
   Doctoral advisor: Richard M. Goody
   Books: Climate Change: The Facts

1. 
   William Happer
   Physicist
   William Happer is an American physicist who has specialised in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy.Wikipedia
   
   Born: July 27, 1939 (age 76), India
   Education: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
   Fields: Atomic physics
   Notable awards: Davisson–Germer Prize in Atomic or Surface Physics

1. 
   Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist and former president of Greenpeace Canada. He trades as Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, and is a frequent public speaker on behalf of industry groups. Wikipedia
   
   Born: 1947, Port Alice, Canada
   Organizations founded: Greenpeace
   Education: University of British Columbia,North Carolina State University
   Books: Green Spirit: Trees are the Answer

What I find hilarious about you cons is that you have no problem cherry picking when it comes to climate change. You intentionally ignore the fact that the vast majority of PEER-REVIEWED studies from around the world say man made climate change is real and cherry pick a handful ofbscientists who dissent. Not only that , but you choose scientists who aren't even involved in the discipline of climatology. It's kind of embarrassing.

Maybe you should just admit that deep down you know this phenomenon to be true and it scares you.

Nah what scares us the most the AGW cult has not left their moms basement in decades.

 

[Vigilante]

The Bern still doesn't get it!

 

[Billy000]

I must admit we are having one of the warmer Novembers I can remember, loving it!!!

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' - 'Based On Nonsense' - 'Leading us down a false path'

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore on climate claims: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/scientists-declare-un-climate-summit-goals-irrational-based-on-nonsense-leading-us-down-a-false-path/#ixzz3s2Kc3U

1. 
   Richard Lindzen
   Physicist
   Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.Wikipedia
   
   Born: February 8, 1940 (age 75),Webster, MA
   Education: Harvard University
   Fields: Atmospheric physics
   Doctoral advisor: Richard M. Goody
   Books: Climate Change: The Facts

1. 
   William Happer
   Physicist
   William Happer is an American physicist who has specialised in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy.Wikipedia
   
   Born: July 27, 1939 (age 76), India
   Education: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
   Fields: Atomic physics
   Notable awards: Davisson–Germer Prize in Atomic or Surface Physics

1. 
   Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist and former president of Greenpeace Canada. He trades as Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, and is a frequent public speaker on behalf of industry groups. Wikipedia
   
   Born: 1947, Port Alice, Canada
   Organizations founded: Greenpeace
   Education: University of British Columbia,North Carolina State University
   Books: Green Spirit: Trees are the Answer

What I find hilarious about you cons is that you have no problem cherry picking when it comes to climate change. You intentionally ignore the fact that the vast majority of PEER-REVIEWED studies from around the world say man made climate change is real and cherry pick a handful ofbscientists who dissent. Not only that , but you choose scientists who aren't even involved in the discipline of climatology. It's kind of embarrassing.

Maybe you should just admit that deep down you know this phenomenon to be true and it scares you.

Nah what scares us the most the AGW cult has not left their moms basement in decades.

So you without any college degree whatsoever believes that climatologists with extensive educational backgrounds all live in basements?

 

[SwimExpert]

Yeah, but those guys don't count. They're not real scientists. Here's the definition of a real scientist:

1. A person who says global warming is happening, that it is bad, and that people are causing it.
2. A person who says the polar bears are gonna die next year.
3. A person who repeats the statement next year.

The problem here is that none of them are climate scientists or know diddly squat about atmospheric physics. Lindzen teaches math. Happer is into gas spectroscopy and Moore is an ecologist.

Seeing as your understanding of anything ever has all the sophistication of Ben Carson talking about pyramids, I just don't care what you have to say.

 

[Crick]

From Wikipedia's article on Richard Lindzen

Contrary to the IPCC's assessment, Lindzen said that climate models are inadequate. Despite accepted errors in their models, e.g., treatment of clouds, modelers still thought their climate predictions were valid.[49] Lindzen has stated that due to the non-linear effects of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, CO2 levels are now around 30% higher than pre-industrial levels but temperatures have responded by about 75% 0.6 °C (1.08 °F) of the expected value for a doubling of CO2. The IPCC (2007) estimates that the expected rise in temperature due to a doubling of CO2 to be about 3 °C (5.4 °F), ± 1.5°. Lindzen has given estimates of the Earth's climate sensitivity to be 0.5 °C based on ERBE data.[50]These estimates were criticized by Kevin E. Trenberth and others,[51] and Lindzen accepted that his paper included "some stupid mistakes". When interviewed, he said "It was just embarrassing", and added that "The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque." Lindzen and Choi revised their paper and submitted it toPNAS.[52] The four reviewers of the paper, two of whom had been selected by Lindzen, strongly criticized the paper and PNAS rejected it for publication.[53] Lindzen and Choi then succeeded in getting a little known Korean journal to publish it as a 2011 paper.[52][54]Andrew Dessler published a paper which found errors in Lindzen and Choi 2011, and concluded that the observations it had presented "are not in fundamental disagreement with mainstream climate models, nor do they provide evidence that clouds are causing climate change. Suggestions that significant revisions to mainstream climate science are required are therefore not supported."[55]

 

[Crick]

Happer

In July 2011, Happer published an article in First Things, "The Truth About Greenhouse Gasses: The Dubious Science of Climate Crusaders," in which he discusses climate science's concern with increasing CO2 as a "Moral Epidemic".[16] Among other responses, climate scientist Michael MacCracken published a detailed critique.[17][18]

In January 2012, Happer and 15 others published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, "No Need to Panic About Global Warming", in which they said that "The international warming establishment" has suppressed those who have doubts on the conclusion of climate science, "we have seen it before—for example, in the frightening period when Trofim Lysenko hijacked biology in the Soviet Union." In their view, it comes down to climate scientists living very well on the government trough, "Lysenko and his team lived very well, and they fiercely defended their dogma and the privileges it brought them."[19] A discussion and exchange developed in the New York Review of Books[20][21] along with another in Physics Today.[22][23]

In March 2012, Happer published another op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, "Global Warming Models are Wrong Again", in which he focused on climate models, one of the lines of evidence for anthropogenic climate change and said that "The observed response of the climate to more CO2 is not in good agreement with model predictions." He also said that global warming has stopped in the last 10 years.[24]

In May 2013, Happer and Harrison Schmitt, two of the authors of the January 2012 op-ed, published another in the Wall Street Journal, "In Defense of Carbon Dioxide," in which they termed elevated atmospheric CO2, "a boon to plant life".[25][26]

In July 2014 Happer said, during a CNBC interview, that "The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler." [27]

 

[Crick]

Seeing as your understanding of anything ever has all the sophistication of Ben Carson talking about pyramids, I just don't care what you have to say.

Nor I you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I must admit we are having one of the warmer Novembers I can remember, loving it!!!

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' - 'Based On Nonsense' - 'Leading us down a false path'

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore on climate claims: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/scientists-declare-un-climate-summit-goals-irrational-based-on-nonsense-leading-us-down-a-false-path/#ixzz3s2Kc3U

1. 
   Richard Lindzen
   Physicist
   Richard Siegmund Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.Wikipedia
   
   Born: February 8, 1940 (age 75),Webster, MA
   Education: Harvard University
   Fields: Atmospheric physics
   Doctoral advisor: Richard M. Goody
   Books: Climate Change: The Facts

1. 
   William Happer
   Physicist
   William Happer is an American physicist who has specialised in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy.Wikipedia
   
   Born: July 27, 1939 (age 76), India
   Education: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
   Fields: Atomic physics
   Notable awards: Davisson–Germer Prize in Atomic or Surface Physics

1. 
   Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist and former president of Greenpeace Canada. He trades as Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, and is a frequent public speaker on behalf of industry groups. Wikipedia
   
   Born: 1947, Port Alice, Canada
   Organizations founded: Greenpeace
   Education: University of British Columbia,North Carolina State University
   Books: Green Spirit: Trees are the Answer

What I find hilarious about you cons is that you have no problem cherry picking when it comes to climate change. You intentionally ignore the fact that the vast majority of PEER-REVIEWED studies from around the world say man made climate change is real and cherry pick a handful ofbscientists who dissent. Not only that , but you choose scientists who aren't even involved in the discipline of climatology. It's kind of embarrassing.

Maybe you should just admit that deep down you know this phenomenon to be true and it scares you.

Nah what scares us the most the AGW cult has not left their moms basement in decades.

So you without any college degree whatsoever believes that climatologists with extensive educational backgrounds all live in basements?

I don't have no belief, that would be you who drinks the social justice. Packaged up so nicely as "man made climate change" hysteria....

Again twinkle toes I have been living through it for the past 40 years, it gets old and boring after awhile when the claims don't come true.