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IS there any reason this wouldnt be true in educational settings too or for that matter any other situation
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IS there any reason this wouldnt be true in educational settings too or for that matter any other situation
I had to look it up to find out what a trans pronoun was. I still did not see what they used or wanted them to use, that started the controversy, rising to the California Appellate Court. California is a weird state.IS there any reason this wouldnt be true in educational settings too or for that matter any other situation
I had to look it up to find out what a trans pronoun was. I still did not see what they used or wanted them to use, that started the controversy, rising to the California Appellate Court. California is a weird state.
Wow. Thanks for posting that. I am from what I think of as the normal world, probably a conceited point of view. I do not come into contact with transgender people (if I do, they don't make a point of making sure I know) and pretty well try to ignore the issue, being, I suppose fairly provincial in thought and experience. Closest I may have come, was walking into the wrong bar in downtown Louisville, late one night for a drink when I was young, to possibly pick up women. Got halfway to the back, near the stage and realized the couples leaned closely together at the darkened tables were not men and women couples, but mostly same sex. Then realized the chick dancing, that looked good scantily undressed from way back at the bar, getting my drink, was definitely not a chick. I about faced and got the hell out of there, the experience scaring the hell out me at the time, and ducking my head when I hit the door to the street, hoping nobody saw me going in or coming out, while knowing internally that nobody I would know would possibly be around there, if they knew the place, at all. I guess that makes me transphobic/homophobic. They don't enrage me, I just don't understand and see no reason to want to understand or change, as I just don't get it. That said, I don't abuse any, either and that should be enough.It was a facial challenge by a plaintiff called "Taking Offense" which only states that it has at least 1 member and a member that resides in California. It was a lawsuit to challenge the law on its face basically without it having been applied to the plaintiff(s) in a punitive way.
The ruling ( opens as a pdf) https://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/C088485.PDF
An explanation of facial challenges Differences Between Facial and As-Applied Challenges to the Constitutionality of a Statute
Wow. Thanks for posting that. I am from what I think of as the normal world, probably a conceited point of view. I do not come into contact with transgender people (if I do, they don't make a point of making sure I know) and pretty well try to ignore the issue, being, I suppose fairly provincial in thought and experience. Closest I may have come, was walking into the wrong bar in downtown Louisville, late one night for a drink when I was young, to possibly pick up women. Got halfway to the back, near the stage and realized the couples leaned closely together at the darkened tables were not men and women couples, but mostly same sex. Then realized the chick dancing, that looked good scantily undressed from way back at the bar, getting my drink, was definitely not a chick. I about faced and got the hell out of there, the experience scaring the hell out me at the time, and ducking my head when I hit the door to the street, hoping nobody saw me going in or coming out, while knowing internally that nobody I would know would possibly be around there, if they knew the place, at all. I guess that makes me transphobic/homophobic. They don't enrage me, I just don't understand and see no reason to want to understand or change, as I just don't get it. That said, I don't abuse any, either and that should be enough.
I read legal opinions on here from time to time. That was some well written, logically presented and apparently effective legalese. I have never been in a legal action, unless you count being a juror, but if I am, I hope it is not against a California lawyer. The 1A and 2A case filings I have read on here from California have been impressive. They may have a strange state, with what I would think of as strange people, and strange priorities, but seem to have impressive lawyers aplenty.