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That doesnt mean take away gay marriage.Is incestuous marriage really something youre oh so concerned about, or what?
Lets do the old adage about guns.
Guns dont kill people, people kill people with guns.
Gay marriage doesnt cause incestuous marriage. Incestuous marriage causes incestuous marriage.
The "two" concepts are unique, not the same and certainly not "married" to one another.
Marriage is law, the Iowa law defines eligibility. The change caused the INCLUSSION. Funny this wasn't included in the 9th circuits decision as at least one brief submitted include it.
It means fix a stupid fucking law in Iowa.
Next issue?
are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes. s0n.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
If the land is paid for....Iowa has some of most expensive farmland in the nation, but in central Oklahoma the top soil is the deepest..You don’t understand the statute, it doesn’t authorize ‘incestuous marriages.’I firmly oppose incestuous marriage and have been struggling to find a legal basis as to how many incestuous marriages could be banned. I've been called foolish, but it appears it's already legal in at least one state, or at least, not prohibited, if I read the statute correctly.
The link below is to the State of Iowa code addressing who is eligible to marry:
Iowa Code 595.19
Did you notice that only opposite gender closely related individuals are listed as those prohibited to Marry? Same sex closely related relatives are not prohibited from marriage.
The law was written prior to same sex marriage being ruled legal obviously, but it is now the law.
This creates an interesting paradox.
A straight farmer, looking to pass his farm onto his son without the burdon of the inheritance tax could simply Marry his son and POOF, no inheritance tax, but he could not do that with his daughter?
I came across this odd situation from a brief submitted to the ninth circuit, and apparently ignored. That lead me to research if anyone thought that same sex siblings actually wanted the right.
In a marriage equality forum a couple of people posted that they were in same sex sibling relationships and were upset that they could not Marry as other same sex couples now could.
It also appears that several other states have similar laws to Iowa, and others define incest as vaginal penetration.
What a mess we made.
The premise of your thread fails as a slippery slope fallacy, straw man fallacy, and red herring fallacy – you are both foolish and ignorant.
Obergefell addressed solely same-sex couples who were eligible to enter into marriage contracts, having nothing to do with ‘incestuous marriages,’ and in no way ‘authorizing’ such ‘marriages.’
Consequently there is no 'mess.'
FACTS have no place in this discussion but I do appreciate your efforts.
The OP is idiotic as usual but the funniest part is saying that the family farmer is multimillionaire.
You don't think there are multimillionaire farmers? Have you seen land prices since ethanol?
You really are an idiot.
There are multimillionaire corporate farms. And there will be more if you fools get a Republican in the WH.
+++++
How about this:
Keeping in mind that its really none of your business, how about you describe your absolute worst case scenario for SSM and then say EXACTLY what the "ramifications" of that would be.
IOW, not what YOU don't personally like but rather, actual, real life consequences.
I'll be back to see what you wrote.
The average acre of farmland in Iowa is over $8,500.
To have a net worth of $1,000,000 the farmer would only have to own 117 acres. That's tiny
The average size farm in Iowa is 333 acres.
Do the math idiot, the average farmer has net farmland only of roughly 3 million. That doesn't include equipment and homes, buildings, pushing that number way up.
OBTW: some areas in Iowa have prices of over 10,000 per acre. A millionaire would own only 100 acres, in a lot of places that called a hobby farm.
are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
If the land is paid for....Iowa has some of most expensive farmland in the nation, but in central Oklahoma the top soil is the deepest..You don’t understand the statute, it doesn’t authorize ‘incestuous marriages.’
The premise of your thread fails as a slippery slope fallacy, straw man fallacy, and red herring fallacy – you are both foolish and ignorant.
Obergefell addressed solely same-sex couples who were eligible to enter into marriage contracts, having nothing to do with ‘incestuous marriages,’ and in no way ‘authorizing’ such ‘marriages.’
Consequently there is no 'mess.'
FACTS have no place in this discussion but I do appreciate your efforts.
The OP is idiotic as usual but the funniest part is saying that the family farmer is multimillionaire.
You don't think there are multimillionaire farmers? Have you seen land prices since ethanol?
You really are an idiot.
There are multimillionaire corporate farms. And there will be more if you fools get a Republican in the WH.
+++++
How about this:
Keeping in mind that its really none of your business, how about you describe your absolute worst case scenario for SSM and then say EXACTLY what the "ramifications" of that would be.
IOW, not what YOU don't personally like but rather, actual, real life consequences.
I'll be back to see what you wrote.
The average acre of farmland in Iowa is over $8,500.
To have a net worth of $1,000,000 the farmer would only have to own 117 acres. That's tiny
The average size farm in Iowa is 333 acres.
Do the math idiot, the average farmer has net farmland only of roughly 3 million. That doesn't include equipment and homes, buildings, pushing that number way up.
OBTW: some areas in Iowa have prices of over 10,000 per acre. A millionaire would own only 100 acres, in a lot of places that called a hobby farm.
Arguments were presented in your other countless threads about this same shit. There's no sense trying to convince you your wrong. Your butthurt is too great.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
Arguments were presented in your other countless threads about this same shit. There's no sense trying to convince you your wrong. Your butthurt is too great.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
Be realistic now, I do not think he is the one butthurting, he just made it clear a while ago that he wasn't into butthurting activities..Arguments were presented in your other countless threads about this same shit. There's no sense trying to convince you your wrong. Your butthurt is too great.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
You don’t understand the statute, it doesn’t authorize ‘incestuous marriages.’I firmly oppose incestuous marriage and have been struggling to find a legal basis as to how many incestuous marriages could be banned. I've been called foolish, but it appears it's already legal in at least one state, or at least, not prohibited, if I read the statute correctly.
The link below is to the State of Iowa code addressing who is eligible to marry:
Iowa Code 595.19
Did you notice that only opposite gender closely related individuals are listed as those prohibited to Marry? Same sex closely related relatives are not prohibited from marriage.
The law was written prior to same sex marriage being ruled legal obviously, but it is now the law.
This creates an interesting paradox.
A straight farmer, looking to pass his farm onto his son without the burdon of the inheritance tax could simply Marry his son and POOF, no inheritance tax, but he could not do that with his daughter?
I came across this odd situation from a brief submitted to the ninth circuit, and apparently ignored. That lead me to research if anyone thought that same sex siblings actually wanted the right.
In a marriage equality forum a couple of people posted that they were in same sex sibling relationships and were upset that they could not Marry as other same sex couples now could.
It also appears that several other states have similar laws to Iowa, and others define incest as vaginal penetration.
What a mess we made.
The premise of your thread fails as a slippery slope fallacy, straw man fallacy, and red herring fallacy – you are both foolish and ignorant.
Obergefell addressed solely same-sex couples who were eligible to enter into marriage contracts, having nothing to do with ‘incestuous marriages,’ and in no way ‘authorizing’ such ‘marriages.’
Consequently there is no 'mess.'
FACTS have no place in this discussion but I do appreciate your efforts.
The OP is idiotic as usual but the funniest part is saying that the family farmer is multimillionaire.
You don't think there are multimillionaire farmers? Have you seen land prices since ethanol?
You really are an idiot.
There are multimillionaire corporate farms. And there will be more if you fools get a Republican in the WH.
+++++
How about this:
Keeping in mind that its really none of your business, how about you describe your absolute worst case scenario for SSM and then say EXACTLY what the "ramifications" of that would be.
IOW, not what YOU don't personally like but rather, actual, real life consequences.
I'll be back to see what you wrote.
The average acre of farmland in Iowa is over $8,500.
To have a net worth of $1,000,000 the farmer would only have to own 117 acres. That's tiny
The average size farm in Iowa is 333 acres.
Do the math idiot, the average farmer has net farmland only of roughly 3 million. That doesn't include equipment and homes, buildings, pushing that number way up.
OBTW: some areas in Iowa have prices of over 10,000 per acre. A millionaire would own only 100 acres, in a lot of places that called a hobby farm.
Arguments were presented in your other countless threads about this same shit. There's no sense trying to convince you your wrong. Your butthurt is too great.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
The Iowa code addresses the law AND lists those not eligible, no same sex, closely related relationships appear on the list.
You don’t understand the statute, it doesn’t authorize ‘incestuous marriages.’
The premise of your thread fails as a slippery slope fallacy, straw man fallacy, and red herring fallacy – you are both foolish and ignorant.
Obergefell addressed solely same-sex couples who were eligible to enter into marriage contracts, having nothing to do with ‘incestuous marriages,’ and in no way ‘authorizing’ such ‘marriages.’
Consequently there is no 'mess.'
FACTS have no place in this discussion but I do appreciate your efforts.
The OP is idiotic as usual but the funniest part is saying that the family farmer is multimillionaire.
You don't think there are multimillionaire farmers? Have you seen land prices since ethanol?
You really are an idiot.
There are multimillionaire corporate farms. And there will be more if you fools get a Republican in the WH.
+++++
How about this:
Keeping in mind that its really none of your business, how about you describe your absolute worst case scenario for SSM and then say EXACTLY what the "ramifications" of that would be.
IOW, not what YOU don't personally like but rather, actual, real life consequences.
I'll be back to see what you wrote.
The average acre of farmland in Iowa is over $8,500.
To have a net worth of $1,000,000 the farmer would only have to own 117 acres. That's tiny
The average size farm in Iowa is 333 acres.
Do the math idiot, the average farmer has net farmland only of roughly 3 million. That doesn't include equipment and homes, buildings, pushing that number way up.
OBTW: some areas in Iowa have prices of over 10,000 per acre. A millionaire would own only 100 acres, in a lot of places that called a hobby farm.
So you have no idea what farming equipment and stock costs? There is no way to farm without incurring massive debt.
The latest gimmick the 1% is using to drive family farmers out of business is a variation on tenant or share-crop farming. Big corporations sell stock to family farms and "buy" them back when they're ready for market. What it really means is the farmer owns everything that costs money while the corporation owns the profits. The corp's require certain conditions and every year they take more. The farmer gets into the "partnership" in hopes of holding on to their farms and end up going bankrupt. Then, the corp's buy them out.
BUT, you rabid RWs are always whining about the "death tax" on estates over $5.5 million but you want to make sure the family farmer can't keep their hard work in the family?
IOW, take from the working man, give to the rich. SSDD from the right and apparently, all RWs are wealthy and don't have families.
Arguments were presented in your other countless threads about this same shit. There's no sense trying to convince you your wrong. Your butthurt is too great.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
Not one of the phobes has been able to come up with anything beyond "its icky".
The Iowa code addresses the law AND lists those not eligible, no same sex, closely related relationships appear on the list.
That's not true.
>>>>
Explain.
Oh yes, the flat exclusion of first cousins, well I guess that's something to be optimistic about.
And so why does it matter if they marry, exactly....?That doesnt mean take away gay marriage.Is incestuous marriage really something youre oh so concerned about, or what?
Lets do the old adage about guns.
Guns dont kill people, people kill people with guns.
Gay marriage doesnt cause incestuous marriage. Incestuous marriage causes incestuous marriage.
The "two" concepts are unique, not the same and certainly not "married" to one another.
Marriage is law, the Iowa law defines eligibility. The change caused the INCLUSSION. Funny this wasn't included in the 9th circuits decision as at least one brief submitted include it.
It means fix a stupid fucking law in Iowa.
Next issue?
Yes, fix it, explain how?
Case by case, explain how a legislature can exclude a same sex couple of sisters while allowing lesbians from marrying?
Neither can procreate, and they are not remarkably different in nature.
You can go down the list if you want, each have a right in Iowa to marry and the state must demonstrate a compelling interest in denying each subsets right to marry
To fix the law, you include the same bar to same sex marriages as you do to hetero marriages.That doesnt mean take away gay marriage.Is incestuous marriage really something youre oh so concerned about, or what?
Lets do the old adage about guns.
Guns dont kill people, people kill people with guns.
Gay marriage doesnt cause incestuous marriage. Incestuous marriage causes incestuous marriage.
The "two" concepts are unique, not the same and certainly not "married" to one another.
Marriage is law, the Iowa law defines eligibility. The change caused the INCLUSSION. Funny this wasn't included in the 9th circuits decision as at least one brief submitted include it.
It means fix a stupid fucking law in Iowa.
Next issue?
Yes, fix it, explain how?
Case by case, explain how a legislature can exclude a same sex couple of sisters while allowing lesbians from marrying?
Neither can procreate, and they are not remarkably different in nature.
You can go down the list if you want, each have a right in Iowa to marry and the state must demonstrate a compelling interest in denying each subsets right to marry
Again....thinking about sex only. Odd.are you sure that he is the insane one?Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.
Yes, I'm obviously more insane then those who screw members of the same gender.
Then again it's fun watching oldschool twist in the wind without a single argument against mine.
It's at least as valid as the nonsense you've been spewing here every day since the ruling was passed down. Gym bathing, marrying your children... you're insane.Well I guess God will be sending us a couple Katrina's as punishment. And Franky Graham says Obama will be smote by him. So I guess that should be happening any day now
^^^snarky remark without any argument.
Noted
