SF Mayor: Police to stop responding to non criminal Calls

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San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.

for the record----during my working years (I is old now) I had to evaluate INJURED PEOPLE. Social workers GET ATTACKED
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.

Will have to see how it works in practice. My city tries to have one male and one female officer only as initial responders to domestic violence calls. They found that flooding the location with a ton of officers did more harm than good as it the men needed to be more Billy Badass the more officers showed up. If those initial responders need backup, it is around the corner, literally. While they are putting fewer people there first, they will stack up cars out of sight of the location in usually two different locations so they can flood it in a matter of seconds if need be. Saw this go down yet again a couple weeks ago when they were responding to a call on a horseshoe shaped road where I can see both ends from my front porch. They had 3 SUV's at each end of the road as back up, so 6 additional officers waiting.
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.
I think you'd be surprised how that will work out, Marty. Social workers and counselors don't pose the threat/cause the escalation of a situation that cops sometimes do--by their very presence. A uniformed cop, just walking into a situation, can cause a huge bump in tension through no fault of his/her own. Social workers and counselors are trained to deal with crises and are experienced with deescalating a situation.

I think the changes the SF police department are embracing make a lot of sense. They will probably be met with relief from the majority of cops, too. If they wanted to be social workers or counselors, that's what they'd be. They have a different role. I've heard complaints about having to take on those roles, too.
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.
I think you'd be surprised how that will work out, Marty. Social workers and counselors don't pose the threat/cause the escalation of a situation that cops sometimes do--by their very presence. A uniformed cop, just walking into a situation, can cause a huge bump in tension through no fault of his/her own. Social workers and counselors are trained to deal with crises and are experienced with deescalating a situation.

I think the changes the SF police department are embracing make a lot of sense. They will probably be met with relief from the majority of cops, too. If they wanted to be social workers or counselors, that's what they'd be. They have a different role. I've heard complaints about having to take on those roles, too.

The dead bodies of social workers will be on them.
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.
I think you'd be surprised how that will work out, Marty. Social workers and counselors don't pose the threat/cause the escalation of a situation that cops sometimes do--by their very presence. A uniformed cop, just walking into a situation, can cause a huge bump in tension through no fault of his/her own. Social workers and counselors are trained to deal with crises and are experienced with deescalating a situation.

I think the changes the SF police department are embracing make a lot of sense. They will probably be met with relief from the majority of cops, too. If they wanted to be social workers or counselors, that's what they'd be. They have a different role. I've heard complaints about having to take on those roles, too.

The dead bodies of social workers will be on them.
I hope you're wrong.
I was a Child Protective worker for nine years. Always went alone. We don't have a black community here, but our reports dealt with the roughest, most criminal people in our area, some in compounds down rutted dirt roads far from help; back then we didn't even have cell service in half the county. I visited the major drug dealers, the wife beaters, the crazy out of control drunks/druggies and the mentally ill. I was known as the woman who would steal their children. And I never got hurt once. None of us caseworkers took a cop with us because it escalated the situation. Only times they came was when there was a criminal investigation going on simultaneously, like pedophile complaints or hospitalized shaken babies. (State Police detectives liked getting the interviews over with at the same time.) A handful of times when a cop made a report they advised taking police with us for the visits. The cop usually ended up being bored and excusing himself way before I was through.
I hope the social workers who do the job for the police department will have similar experiences.
 
The police will very likely support this. Domestic calls are the nastiest calls they get. It's a relief not to have to deal with these any longer. Same thing with calls dealing with the mentally ill. If it means that more people die, so be it. The police won't be blamed.
 
Is domestic disputes considered 'non criminal'?
If not, I wonder if the social workers will be drawing for the short end of the stick on who has to go
deal with that, and if they get hazard pay if they do.
Na, I can't see anything that could go wrong here. :rolleyes-41:
 
Is domestic disputes considered 'non criminal'?
If not, I wonder if the social workers will be drawing for the short end of the stick on who has to go
deal with that, and if they get hazard pay if they do.
Na, I can't see anything that could go wrong here. :rolleyes-41:
Yeah, those are hairy. Assault is a crime, but if all the next door neighbor hears is hollering, will they send the cops? Considering there could be any number of criminal assault-type things going on that the neighbor can't see, I'm guessing the cops are going to be there. Some departments already have a social worker with them on those calls.
 
And. Here. We. Go.

San Francisco mayor says police will stop responding to non-criminal calls

Breed said in a news release that for calls that don't involve a threat to public safety, police would be replaced by trained, unarmed professionals to limit unnecessary confrontation between the police department and the community.

The non-criminal calls will include neighbor disputes, reports on homeless people and school discipline interventions, among other activities.

They are going to send unarmed people to disputes between neighbors, and to check on homeless people who may be mentally ill.

What is going to happen is these people are going to get hurt and killed, and then will require police escort to do their job, so now cops would be not just responsible for their own safety, but the safety of some social worker.
I think you'd be surprised how that will work out, Marty. Social workers and counselors don't pose the threat/cause the escalation of a situation that cops sometimes do--by their very presence. A uniformed cop, just walking into a situation, can cause a huge bump in tension through no fault of his/her own. Social workers and counselors are trained to deal with crises and are experienced with deescalating a situation.

I think the changes the SF police department are embracing make a lot of sense. They will probably be met with relief from the majority of cops, too. If they wanted to be social workers or counselors, that's what they'd be. They have a different role. I've heard complaints about having to take on those roles, too.
No, you’ll just have more crime as what happened in Baltimore. It’s just that Pravda will intentionally ignore it to give the impression that things are better.
 

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