So, which British gun control law stopped this shooter from shooting up a church?

[2aguy]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

 

[JoeB131]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Oh, no, he shot up a HOUSE? That's terrible.

MEANWHILE-

2 women killed, child hurt in shooting at Texas dormitory

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Oh, no, he shot up a HOUSE? That's terrible.

MEANWHILE-

2 women killed, child hurt in shooting at Texas dormitory

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Oh, no, he shot up a HOUSE? That's terrible.

MEANWHILE-

2 women killed, child hurt in shooting at Texas dormitory

I can tell you right now, it wasn't a NRA member who shot up the 2 women...

 

[rightwinger]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

 

[CWayne]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

 

[Vagabond63]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

 

[Vagabond63]

So, which British gun control law stopped this shooter from shooting up a church?

Here, read all about it here. Firearms licensing

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

So how do you propose stopping illegal weapons from crossing the border? Build a wall?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So, which British gun control law stopped this shooter from shooting up a church?

Here, read all about it here. Firearms licensing

1988, it is predicted....

 

[miketx]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Oh, no, he shot up a HOUSE? That's terrible.

MEANWHILE-

2 women killed, child hurt in shooting at Texas dormitory

Another democrat went nuts.

 

[2aguy]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Oh, no, he shot up a HOUSE? That's terrible.

MEANWHILE-

2 women killed, child hurt in shooting at Texas dormitory

Get back to us when you have 1.1 million gun murders.....The Centers for Disease Control states that Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives...from rape, robbery and murder....

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, moron......I gave you the way you stop 95% of shootings.....1st, you stop the democrats from releasing violent gun offenders over and over again.....then you lock up violent gun offenders for life..........that is how you stop gun murder and crime.......

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

 

[2aguy]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

Moron.....

Police struggle to stop flood of firearms into UK


Police and border officials are struggling to stop a rising supply of illegal firearms being smuggled into Britain, a senior police chief has warned.

Chief constable Andy Cooke, the national police lead for serious and organised crime, said law enforcement had seen an increased supply of guns over the past year, and feared that it would continue in 2019

The Guardian has learned that the situation is so serious that the National Crime Agency has taken the rare step of using its legal powers to direct every single police force to step up the fight against illegal guns.

The NCA has used tasking powers to direct greater intelligence about firearms to be gathered by all 43 forces in England and Wales.

Another senior law enforcement official said that “new and clean” weapons were now being used in the majority of shootings, as opposed to guns once being so difficult to obtain that they would be “rented out” to be used in multiple crimes.

Cooke, the Merseyside chief constable, told the Guardian: “We in law enforcement expect the rise in new firearms to continue. We are doing all we can. We are not in a position to stop it anytime soon.

“Law enforcement is more joined up now than before, but the scale of the problem is such that despite a number of excellent firearms seizures, I expect the rise in supply to be a continuing issue.”

The increasing supply of guns belies problems with UK border security and innovations by organised crime gangs. Smugglers have increasingly found new ways and innovative routes to get guns past border defences.


Cooke said that the dynamics of the streets of British cities had changed and that criminals were more willing to use guns: “If they bring them in people will buy them. It’s a kudos thing for organised criminals.”

Simon Brough, head of firearms at the NCA, said: “The majority of guns being used are new, clean firearms ... which indicates a relatively fluid supply.”

He said shotguns were 40% of the total, with an increase in burglaries to try and steal them.

Handguns are the next biggest category, most often smuggled in from overseas, with ferry ports such as Dover being a popular entry point into the UK for organised crime groups:

“We’re doing a lot to fight back against it,” Brough said, adding that compared to other European countries, the availability in the UK was relatively lower.
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[2aguy]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

Nothing you feel about guns is even true or accurate...........


You can't explain the following, why should you have any say in any topic on gun control?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns, but now carry them for self defense, our gun murder rate went down 49%...

With what you believe....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own but now carry guns our gun crime rate went down 75%....

With what you believe,.....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns but carry them for self defense, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....

With what you believe, how do you explain that?

Nothing you believe about guns is supported by actual facts, the truth, or reality on the ground......how do you justify your believes beyond simply not liking guns?

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Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
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Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


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Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.

 

[2aguy]

So, which British gun control law stopped this shooter from shooting up a church?

Here, read all about it here. Firearms licensing

Are you really this stupid? Yes....yes you are....

This guy had a gun....already........none of your British gun control laws stopped him from getting that gun...hence, you dope.....you could not stop him from walking into a school, a mall, a theater, a church and shooting people........

He had the gun illegally already...

Are you really this dumb?

 

[2aguy]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

25,000 Americans were in the Virginia capitol, with pistols and even AR-15 rifles....thousands of pistols, at least hundreds of AR-15 rifles.....an not one shot was fired....

You can't explain that.......

dittos the rallies in New Mexico and Kentucky.....let alone the fact....

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[CWayne]

They have a ban on guns.....and their criminals keep shooting up houses.....which British gun control law kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a church, a theater or a school?

Gunman opens fire in street as house riddled with bullets

So your logic is that if you can’t stop all shootings, you shouldn’t try to stop any.

No, the logic is banning guns won't stop criminals from using them.

No the logic is, banning guns makes it extremely difficult for criminals to get hold of guns. Just as yet another FYI, the UK has not banned all guns, just handguns with shorter barrel lengths, and semi-automatic rifles. We can still get shotguns, pistols and rifles.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

Here is the thing.

There are in the US, 22,000 laws making it harder for criminals to get guns. They get them anyway.

You do not make your country safer by making law-abiding citizens helpless.

 

[JoeB131]

I can tell you right now, it wasn't a NRA member who shot up the 2 women...

Nope, the NRA just made the gun easily available.

 

[2aguy]

I can tell you right now, it wasn't a NRA member who shot up the 2 women...

Nope, the NRA just made the gun easily available.

Your sad fixation on the NRA is just one more clue you need to get real help....from a trained professional.

 

[JoeB131]

25,000 Americans were in the Virginia capitol, with pistols and even AR-15 rifles....thousands of pistols, at least hundreds of AR-15 rifles.....an not one shot was fired....

You can't explain that.......

100 people were shot and killed that day in teh United States. And then another 100 the day after that. And the day after that. And the day after that.

210 received gun injuries that day... and the day after that..

Key Gun Violence Statistics