Daryl Hunt
Your Worst Nightmare
- Oct 22, 2014
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Oh, man... Why anybody should equate 0,5 Mt airburst with 200Mt groundburst? It is stupid.Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.
In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.
Environmentalist? Man, you should pray they don't cancel the Olympics with that leap, you are a shoe-in for any team.
I know what happens when you take your numbers and multiply them by the entire nuclear inventories of the nuclear powers. Once you go nuclear, why stop?
I can see you have lost your argument, now is the time to slink off into obscurity.
And even if we do so, 200 Gt is just something like Toba super-erruption. And, according the new studies there were no significant cooling after it.
Toba catastrophe theory - Wikipedia
Physical data contradicting the winter hypothesis
In 2013, archaeologists, led by Christine Lane, reported finding a microscopic layer of glassy volcanic ash in sediments of Lake Malawi, and definitively linked the ash to the 75,000-year-old Toba super-eruption, but found no change in fossil type close to the ash layer, something that would be expected following a severe volcanic winter. They concluded that the largest known volcanic eruption in the history of the human species did not significantly alter the climate of East Africa,[23][24] attracting criticism from Richard Roberts.[25] Lane explained, "We examined smear slides at a 2-mm interval, corresponding to subdecadal resolution, and X-ray fluorescence scans run at 200-µm intervals correspond to subannual resolution. We observed no obvious change in sediment composition or Fe/Ti ratio, suggesting that no thermally driven overturn of the water column occurred following the Toba supereruption."[26] In 2015, a new study on the climate of East Africa supported Lane's conclusion, that there was "no significant cooling associated with Mount Toba".[27]
One nuke does not equal one volcano. The problem with your thinking is scale. Reassess your data for a massive world-wide nuclear strike. Too bad you apparently suck at math.
The Mt. St. Helens Volcano eruption affected everyone for hundreds of miles. I am well over 1000 miles from it yet it was messing up our weather and air quality here.
The old SAC rule of thumb for the start of a Nuclear Winter was setting off at least 12 5mt Nuclear Warheads in selective locations. That's the bad news. The good news is, the Warheads are now in KTs because they can hit within a mile or less of their intended target. The 5 to 10MT was under the assumption that you could only hit within 10 miles or more. The throw weight is a fraction and that means it would take one hell of a lot more to cause a decade lasting Nuclear Winter. Now, if we had 5 major Volcanic Eruptions strategically placed around the world, then a short Nuclear Winter could happen. If 10 were to go then you just hit the decade long Nuclear Winter affects.
There are many reasons why the Throw weight was drastically reduced. But if you set enough of those off (3000 or more) get ready for some really, really bad air and it forces Humans to adapt. And let's face it, Humans won out because we are the most adaptable species.