The Bible Tells Us When Jesus Returns - Between Tisha B'Av and Day of Atonement 2029

[Parture]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

Jesus never chooses for us to believe in Him. He chooses those who choose Him. I freely believed in Christ as all Christians I know did. That is their experience and testimony. God draws everyone but sadly many such as yourself "draw back unto perdition" (Heb. 10.39).

Receiving the free gift of faith is no more boasting than your grandma making you an apple pie and offering you a piece. Are you boasting by doing so? Of course not.

I am once saved always saved, but you have never even been born-again. I am 100% solid in Christ.

Sproul is going to Hell that's easy to see.

Take a look at this ex- Calvinist after 26 years finally received Christ.



Christianity is perfectly fine. It does not need to be reformed. Calvinism is not justification by faith but justification by the delusion of being irresistibly selected and not preterioned. Crazy stuff!

 

[Parture]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

 

[MaxGrit]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

Osas Arminians. Lol. very enthusiastic.

 

[Parture]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

Osas Arminians. Lol. very enthusiastic.

Very enthusiastic about the gospel.

 

[MaxGrit]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

Jesus never chooses for us to believe in Him. He chooses those who choose Him. I freely believed in Christ as all Christians I know did. That is their experience and testimony. God draws everyone but sadly many such as yourself "draw back unto perdition" (Heb. 10.39).

Receiving the free gift of faith is no more boasting than your grandma making you an apple pie and offering you a piece. Are you boasting by doing so? Of course not.

I am once saved always saved, but you have never even been born-again. I am 100% solid in Christ.

Sproul is going to Hell that's easy to see.

Take a look at this ex- Calvinist after 26 years finally received Christ.



Christianity is perfectly fine. It does not need to be reformed. Calvinism is not justification by faith but justification by the delusion of being irresistibly selected and not preterioned. Crazy stuff!

Yep. GOD already done with ELECTION before the foundation of the world.

It is mindblowing.

 

[MaxGrit]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

Osas Arminians. Lol. very enthusiastic.

Very enthusiastic about the gospel.

What is the gospel?

 

[Parture]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

Osas Arminians. Lol. very enthusiastic.

Very enthusiastic about the gospel.

What is the gospel?

OSAS Arminian

 

[MaxGrit]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

"Those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified" (Rom. 8.30). Since I am called, justified and glorified, how can I ever lose salvation? "In all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will have the power to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!" (Rom 8.37-39). Nothing will have the power to separate us from Christ Jesus, not you, not me, nor any other created thing; not now, nor in the future. We in Christ are victorious already -- a victory that could never be lost. That's power!

Osas Arminians. Lol. very enthusiastic.

Very enthusiastic about the gospel.

What is the gospel?

OSAS Arminian

LoL. Do you know what the gospel is?

 

[MaxGrit]

One way you can think of it is if God implores you to believe in Him then obviously He has given you the grace to have the free choice, otherwise He would be a sadistic bastard.

God doesn't implore anyone to believe in Him.

 

[MaxGrit]

Behave in what way?

It is evil for Hitler to irresistibly select his Aryan race and send the Jews to the gas chambers from birth with opportunity to be saed, so it is evil for your god to behave this way too.

Is God sovereign?

Yes, so why do you reject His sovereign right to give us the free choice?

Romans 9 English Standard Version (ESV)

9 I am speaking the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit— 2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. 5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. 9 For this is what the promise said: “About this time next year I will return, and Sarah shall have a son.” 10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25 As indeed he says in Hosea,

“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’
and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”
26 “And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
27 And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved, 28 for the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth fully and without delay.” 29 And as Isaiah predicted,

“If the Lord of hosts had not left us offspring,
we would have been like Sodom
and become like Gomorrah.”
30 What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; 31 but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. 32 Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, 33 as it is written,

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense;
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”

So as you read this chapter we don't see God irresistibly imposing salvation on people or passing them over not giving them the free choice.

14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory

 

[MaxGrit]

God does all the work. Work like choosing to have faith in Jesus for salvation.

No one freely chooses to believe in Jesus unless God draws (draw here is the same word as a man draws water or a guard draws a prisoner to court).

It seems like Parture love boasting about how good he is to choose to have faith in Jesus Christ.

Parture, what do you think of your salvation? Are you absolutely sure you're not going to Hell? 100% sure?

Keep in mind that 99.99999% is not 100%.

What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

Jesus never chooses for us to believe in Him. He chooses those who choose Him. I freely believed in Christ as all Christians I know did. That is their experience and testimony. God draws everyone but sadly many such as yourself "draw back unto perdition" (Heb. 10.39).

Receiving the free gift of faith is no more boasting than your grandma making you an apple pie and offering you a piece. Are you boasting by doing so? Of course not.

I am once saved always saved, but you have never even been born-again. I am 100% solid in Christ.

Sproul is going to Hell that's easy to see.

Take a look at this ex- Calvinist after 26 years finally received Christ.



Christianity is perfectly fine. It does not need to be reformed. Calvinism is not justification by faith but justification by the delusion of being irresistibly selected and not preterioned. Crazy stuff!

I listened to the video. Hahahah wtf?

8 years as a minister but apparently didn't have any knowledge.

1) Complains about how he is still a sinner. Left to find other teachings because he felt he has no power and wanted power (WTF?).

2 Corinthians 12 English Standard Version (ESV)

7 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

2) The whole thing about a presence telling him that he never saved even though all that time he believed in Jesus Christ? Demon.

2 Corinthians 11 English Standard Version (ESV)

11 I wish you would bear with me in a little foolishness. Do bear with me! 2 For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. 3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. 5 Indeed, I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles. 6 Even if I am unskilled in speaking, I am not so in knowledge; indeed, in every way we have made this plain to you in all things.

12 And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

 

[MaxGrit]

Wow that video. Hard to believe that, even with his background, he was still tricked by demons. Idiot!

Matthew 25 (ESV)

25 “Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. 5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

14 “For it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted to them his property. 15 To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away. 16 He who had received the five talents went at once and traded with them, and he made five talents more. 17 So also he who had the two talents made two talents more. 18 But he who had received the one talent went and dug in the ground and hid his master's money. 19 Now after a long time the master of those servants came and settled accounts with them. 20 And he who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five talents more, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me five talents; here I have made five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 And he also who had the two talents came forward, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me two talents; here I have made two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 24 He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? 27 Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

 

[MaxGrit]

Ephesians 1 (ESV)
4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Romans 9:11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls—

2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.

Matthew 7 (ESV)

13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

 

[MaxGrit]

Lecture 7 Total Depravity Part 1 from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries
Lecture 8 Total Depravity Part 2 from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries
Lecture 9 Unconditional Election from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries
Lecture 10 Limited Atonement from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries
Lecture 11 Irresistible Grace from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries
Lecture 12 Perseverance of the Saints from What Is Reformed Theology Teaching Series by Dr. R.C. Sproul from Ligonier Ministries

 

[MaxGrit]

John 3 English Standard Version (ESV)

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

John 5

19 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing. And greater works than these will he show him, so that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. 24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6

28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

43 Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me— 46 not that anyone has seen the Father except he who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life.

 

[MaxGrit]

Jesus even went over all 5 points of TULIP:

John:

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (T)

5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (T), and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (I) 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ (T) 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” (U)

16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already (L), because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. (T) 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. (T)

37 All that the Father gives me (U) will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. (P) 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. (I, P)

44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. (U, I) And I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me (U, I)

Matthew:

13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. (L)

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (L)

 

[MaxGrit]

The Holy Spirit disagrees. He says people blaspheme Him when they say good is evil and evil is good.

Only when Jesus is on earth. That means that even 1 minute before your death you still have the opportunity to give your life to Christ. Praise the Lord! Now that is a loving God you just don't know do you?

Yep. You know what's more awesome?
I am saved because of God's grace alone, and not of my own works. God did it all. I didn't do anything to gain my salvation. Amazing!

Paul agrees.

By your works you with your own strength put yourself on a pedestal declaring you were irresistibly selected. God never saves people with that attitude.

It's God's grace alone that saves. God did all the work. God gets all the credit for my salvation.

Just because God saves and did all the work and gets the credit for salvation doesn't mean He irresistibly imposes salvation on people or passes over others with no opportunity for salvation. Salvation is a gift that can be freely accepted or rejected. I am sad to hear you know no such salvation in your life.

Sproul and MacArthur are going to Hell. You can be sure about that.

Everyone has the opportunity if they want to take it. However, due to people's sin nature, everyone WILL freely choose sins, because they love sin.

Everyone is dead in spirit. Everyone will freely choose sin over God. No one WILL choose to believe in Jesus Christ unless God's grace first causes them to be born again in the Spirit.

"Salvation is a gift that can be freely accepted or rejected."

It CAN be freely accepted or rejected. CAN. Everyone CAN choose to accept, however by them self, no one WILL accept. Everyone, due to their sin nature so that they love sin, WILL freely choose to reject Jesus Christ.

Only God's elect actually accepts salvation. The people He chooses are drawn to Jesus and WILL freely choose to accept salvation.

Romans 8
English Standard Version (ESV)

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? 33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Taz]

That's all hearsay, written several generations after the facts. God could have better proof, it could hold a press conference on the White House lawn to prove its existence

Why would Jesus wait 2000 years when He could show up 2000 years ago as He did? He graciously comes at time under great torment under the Roman Empire and long before WWI and WWII. You fail to explain why it is better He enter His creation 2000 years later. It's better to come sooner than later don't you think?

The church fathers quote all the verses of the Bible except 11 verses; therefore, we have a very early recording of the NT. There is nothing in antiquity that has material written so close to their events as we have for the Bible, thus, holding to the highest of standards. We have a few still surviving papyri and parchments from the late first century and 15 from the 2nd century. This is unprecedented in antiquity.

Paul converted to Christianity (an outsider skeptic) and so did James (family skeptic) when they saw Jesus resurrected. Paul gives an account of the gospel in 1 Cor. 15 and said he spent 15 days with Peter in Gal. 1, and also spent time with James and John (Gal. 2). They recounted their eyewitness testimony with Paul and Paul's encounter with Jesus with them. The Creed that was recited in 1 Cor. 15 goes all the way back to the cross.

Luke wrote Acts and said it was part two of his former work of Luke. In Acts as a biography of Paul makes no mention of his death, but we know Paul died in the Neronian persecutions 65 AD. So Acts was written before then about 55 AD. But since Acts was part two of Luke's former work of Luke, that places Luke around 45 AD. But Luke also took in part from Mark, so that places Mark even earlier around 35 AD just 2 years after cross. Interestingly, Paul was converted 2 years after the cross. Mark was a close worker with Peter so that places 1 & 2 Peter quite early as well.

Almost all scholars, skeptics or not, agree at the very least the Apostles truly believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings, but of course group hallucinations are impossible.

There's no proof that any apostle wrote anything, the earliest fragment dates to a couple of generations after the facts. Plus, the bible is the most unproven book ever, there's no proof of Noah's flood for starters. I don't get your first paragraph, God could show up today on the White House lawn, he could have showed up 2000 years ago as well...

 

[MaxGrit]

"Salvation is a gift that can be freely accepted or rejected."

It CAN be freely accepted or rejected. CAN. Everyone CAN choose to accept, however by them self, no one WILL accept. Everyone, due to their sin nature so that they love sin, WILL freely choose to reject Jesus Christ.

Only God's elect actually accepts salvation. The people He chooses are drawn to Jesus because they are born again by the Holy Spirit. These people are called the elect, or the saints. Already born again by God's grace alone, these people WILL freely choose to accept salvation.

"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined . . . and those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified."

Foreknew here doesn't stand for foreknowledge. Foreknew is another way to say foreloved.

God is sovereign in His election. Whomever God chooses to elect, He loves. These people are called saints. God predestined all saints, meaning all saints will be called unto salvation. The saints are drawn to faith in Jesus Christ. All saints are justified by their faith, and eventually all saints are glorify. "29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers"

All = all saints.

Romans 8

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.

26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? 33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[indiajo]

The Bible is the word of God ....

No, it isn't. I don't want to stress the god thing here, but NOWHERE the bible itself OR Christians make that claim with one single word.

The Quran does so, not the bible.

You simply fell for the blatant lies of some self announced pastors who would have been cheap-jacks in your old days selling hair growth tonics.

I quite came around a little in this world profesionally, and I have met various really devout people (I generally exclude islam from such valuations), but i never faced such a blunt stupidity about religion as in a significant part of the so high civilized United States.

WTF is wrong with you people?