The debate on climate change is now over. The verdict: Too late to do anything about it!

[justoffal]

Climate change is a continuing reality, nobody denies that. But there is a debate over how much human activity has to do with it and how long before there is a serious impact on human life. There is also a question of what to do about it IF a serious impact is in fact imminent and what solutions and ideas are effective in eliminating or reducing that impact. And in true democrat fashion, they have politicized the issue to the point where nobody trusts anybody. These days the truth is relative, depending on your politics.

It stands to reason that we have had some impact....what doesn't stand to reason is to expect static environmental conditions indefinitely. There's far too much evidence of constant and even violent change in our past.

Jo

 

[task0778]

It stands to reason that we have had some impact....what doesn't stand to reason is to expect static environmental conditions indefinitely. There's far too much evidence of constant and even violent change in our past.

Jo

True. And what also does not stand to reason is the logic behind spending trillions of dollars on any given climate change program or policy without knowing what the payback is. I had hoped that the days of throwing gobs of money at a problem were over; we are not in a position to do that anymore. We just go deeper and faster into more debt and didn't fix a damn thing. And that is dumbshit stupid.

 

[ReinyDays]

The release hundreds of millions of acres of new agriculturally active land should bode well for the world's food supply.

In the final analysis, not to be a nihilist, just a realist; We know what the Earth's eventuality will be. The Earth has at most about 1 billion years of life support left. However we have no idea whether or not that number is accurate. IMO heat accrual is notoriously unpredictable and probably al ot more rapid than they realize or are able to predict. What we do know for certain is that we're heading in that direction. Eventually there will be no actions taken by humans that can stave off what is coming.

1 billion years ... that's older than both plants and animals ... ice caps have come and gone, hell, the oceans at the equator were solid ice within the past billion years ... and Antarctica was temperate like the United States just 30 million years ago (3% of a billion), no ice at sea level a'tall ...

There will be life on Earth ... it won't be human life is all ... "the Homo branch of the Tree-of-Life is putrid and diseased and will die and fall off" ... just tasting bad doesn't help as much as photosynthesis would ... but I digress ...

Heat exchange is predictable ... not sure why you think it's "notoriously" unpredictable ... there are three laws governing energy as it moves through the environment ... they never fail ... not even a counter-example ... they work perfectly in chemistry, biology, classical physics, geology, oceanography ... and Atmospheric Science ... they're just difficult to understand and apply ... but give satisfactory results nonetheless ...