The GOP's Charles Manson Defense

[rampart]

Frankly, Jack Smith fucked up when he brought these charges. He just opened up the ability for the Trump lawyers to start subpoenaing witnesses that proves election fraud.

go ahead. i'd like to hear all the wutnesses, esp thioswer lying repub congresscritters, asnd please put mtv om the stand.

Oh you mean this peaceful protest? Jan 6th was peaceful compared to the CNN protest.

No, the FIB was against President Trump since James Comey lied to the FISA court do push the FAKE RUSSIAN DOSSIER, which it in itself was an insurrection against government.

comey won the 2016 for trump (by reopening the bogus e mail investigation. ) whatever trump promised him, comey was stiffed, and replaced with the current trump loyalist where did you hear the false narrative you are regurgitating.?

 

[jbrownson0831]

go ahead. i'd like to hear all the wutnesses, esp thioswer lying repub congresscritters, asnd please put mtv om the stand.


comey won the 2016 for trump (by reopening the bogus e mail investigation. ) whatever trump promised him, comey was stiffed, and replaced with the current trump loyalist where did you hear the false narrative you are regurgitating.?

Are you drinking, or did your fingers have a stroke?

 

[mudwhistle]

go ahead. i'd like to hear all the wutnesses, esp thioswer lying repub congresscritters, asnd please put mtv om the stand.


comey won the 2016 for trump (by reopening the bogus e mail investigation. ) whatever trump promised him, comey was stiffed, and replaced with the current trump loyalist where did you hear the false narrative you are regurgitating.?

Okay, dumbass.
Trump hasn't been able to be heard in court with respect to election fraud because every judge in the country threw it out because they said he had no legal standing to bring it to trial. Meaning nobody has conducted a complete audit in any state, including AZ.
Now he has the perfect forum to air his grievances over a stolen election, and all of the evidence they have dead to rights will be presented.


If they remove the tweet covering this, here's the Youtube video covering the telecast.....focus on the 1:12:50 mark which covers the topic.

 

[CowboyTed]

Except that Biden cultists think the same way, just opposite. They think Trump guilty and Joe not. It’s the way of the uniparty.

Nope, just looking at actual evidence....

There is none on Joe Biden and a mountain of it on Trump...

Actually we see Trump just accuse people of what he is guilty off..

BTW, Hunter could be guilty of murder and than means nothing about his father...
This is tha same bullshit about Obama born in Kenya, never mind it was bullshit, if true he was still entitled to be President..

 

[gipper]

Nope, just looking at actual evidence....

There is none on Joe Biden and a mountain of it on Trump...

Actually we see Trump just accuse people of what he is guilty off..

BTW, Hunter could be guilty of murder and than means nothing about his father...
This is tha same bullshit about Obama born in Kenya, never mind it was bullshit, if true he was still entitled to be President..

Spoken exactly like a Trumper. Do you guys ever tire of your stupidity.

Has it occurred to you you’re not getting unfiltered news? Stop accepting propaganda.

 

[Chillicothe]

people got out of line, led by FBI agents inserted to do so.

Prove it.
Name names.
Name actions done by those names.
It is one thing for some DewDropInn loudmouth to accuse "FBI agents" doing the J6 riot......it is quite another for them to prove it.
To date I have read of no credible evidence from the CornerBar loudmouths that the "FBI did it".
So, do this poster 'jbrowson' back up your allegation.
Or offer to the forum an apology for making assertions that you cannot, will, do not.....back up.

Saddle up, Skippy.

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They refused to allow anyone who wasn't in on the steal to look wherever they wanted.

This is MAGAZoid nonsense.
Uninformed. Misinformed. Ignorant of details or facts.
Multiple elections in multiple jurisdictions have been combed through.
Hell, Trump supporters paid over $9,000,000 to the Cyber Ninjas to find fraud in Maricopa County.
All they found were MORE votes for Joe Biden that originally tallied.

The Michigan GOP Senate organized a Republican chaired and majority led committee to look into the fraud allegations circulating about the 2020 election. Their conclusion?

Here, from The Hill 6/23/21

"Michigan Senate finds no evidence of fraud in 2020 election"
“The Committee can confidently assert that it has been thorough in examination of numerous allegations of unlawful actions, improper procedures, fraud, vote theft, or any other description which would cause citizens to doubt the integrity of Michigan’s 2020 election results,” the committee wrote.

“Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan,” the panel continued."


Now with no wish to be disrespectful to the poster Mudwhistle, but is he alleging the entire Michigan Republican led legislature in Lansing were "in on the steal"?

Again, with no desire to be pejorative......my avatar believes the avatar Mudwhistle doesn't know or understand what he is talking about. And yes... he/she is either uninformed, misinformed, or is demonstrating partisan-driven obtuseness, either through delusion, or maliciousness.

No disrespect intended. But, poster Mudwhistle should be, and likely could be a better poster here. We all await to witness any improvements in his judgements.

IMHO
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"Trump hasn't been able to be heard in court with respect to election fraud because every judge in the country threw it out because they said he had no legal standing to bring it to trial. Meaning nobody has conducted a complete audit in any state, including AZ."

See the response from my avatar just above this pulled quote. My judgement remains the same here with this "no judge in the country" nonsense as it does about no audits were performed.

In my opinion, to continue down this road of making corrosive allegations and assertions about the 2020 election with no proof, no vetting, no credible evidence or witnesses.....is unpatriotic. It harms America. The time for "It is my 1st Amendment right to say corrosive and obtuse assertions".....is long past.
Grow up, Mudwhistle. Become a better American. A more responsible American.

 

[whitehall]

WTF kind of an analogy is that? Anyone who isn't blinded by political hatred can see that Manson was on the side of most liberals who agreed that corporations were polluting the environment. The concept expanded to the "green new deal" so you could reasonably say that Biden is following in Manson's footsteps.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

WTF kind of an analogy is that? Anyone who isn't blinded by political hatred can see that Manson was on the side of most liberals who agreed that corporations were polluting the environment. The concept expanded to the "green new deal" so you could reasonably say that Biden is following in Manson's footsteps.

Not reasonably you can't. What buffoonery are you spreading around?

This kind?

 

[Dragonlady]

A crackhead son with no discernible skills making millions doing nothing, is proof enough for those of us not stuck in the uniparty matrix.

Hunter Biden has a law degree from Yale. He was the Deputary Secretary of Commerce in the Clinton Administration. And he served in the US military, even though being dishonourably discharged because of his drug problems.

Right winger media initially said that Hunter Biden had no experience in the energy sector and wasn’t qualified to sit on the Burisma Board. Now according to the right, Hunter Biden’s has no marketable skills whatsoever. This is hardly true, but you parrot this lie at every opportunity.

Last, but not least, there is nothing that Hunter Biden could ever have done that begins to compare with Donald Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election and hold onto power.

And pray tell us which of Biden’s actions or policies, have benefitted China???

 

[Dragonlady]

liar.

The FBI cannot be trusted....and it doesn't matter which Republicans they picked to either bribe or extort.....they always fall in line.
Just the fact that a Republican was involved, doesn't mean it wasn't corrupt as hell.

Matter of fact, that argument is getting old as shit, and I'm tired of having to explain to you numbnuts that most of the right is on the take as much as the left.

How many times do we have to explain to you idiots that most politicians are not “on the take”. In fact, 30 years of investigations have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Clintons are not on the take.

At the highest levels, very few politicians are “on the take” because everything they do is subject to such scrutiny. Even those arrested tried, and convicted during the Nixon and Reagan administrations were charged with abuses of foreign policy power, and skirting Congressional oversight, but they weren’t charged with money crimes or corruption. Not since Spiro Agnew.

Yeah, instead of going after Democrats for their supposedly “terrible” policies, Republicans for the past 30 years have falsely accuse the Democrats of being on the teak. And there really is no evidence that they are.

Instead of just going along with what these fools are telling you, why don’t you ever check into the of any of their claims? Especially the bullshit lies Donald Trump told you about the “Crooked Hillary” and the “Biden Crime Family”.

Trump spent four years demanding that his DOJ charge them all, with something anything and they came back to him with nothing!!!








That’s why Trump stonewalled all oversight. He was on the take from day one. He’s still raising money on the “stolen election lies”.



Their net worth tracks with their income and book deals. Ditto he Bidens.

 

[Meathead]

Back in the 90's convicted felon Charles Manson was interviewed by Newsweek magazine from his jail cell. The bulk of his talk to the reporter was his contention that "Corporations were polluting the environment, and so, were responsible for the deaths of many thousands of people." Because of this, his crimes were relatively minor in comparison, so he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison - - That didn't work. Charles Manson died in prison on November 19, 2017.

The same type of defense is being presented by Trump supporters everyday. "Joe and Hunter Biden are guilty of crimes, therefore Donald Trump's misdeeds should be ignored - - That won't work either. The Bidens may indeed be guilty, but this does not automatically make Donald J Trump innocent!

Trump supporters: Do yourselves a favor and stop using the Charles Manson defense of Donald Trump. Guilty people have been using it for centuries and it doesn't work.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts!

Manson sounded very much like a Democrat.

 

[gipper]

Hunter Biden has a law degree from Yale. He was the Deputary Secretary of Commerce in the Clinton Administration. And he served in the US military, even though being dishonourably discharged because of his drug problems.

Right winger media initially said that Hunter Biden had no experience in the energy sector and wasn’t qualified to sit on the Burisma Board. Now according to the right, Hunter Biden’s has no marketable skills whatsoever. This is hardly true, but you parrot this lie at every opportunity.

Last, but not least, there is nothing that Hunter Biden could ever have done that begins to compare with Donald Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election and hold onto power.

And pray tell us which of Biden’s actions or policies, have benefitted China???

We all know if Don Jr did exactly what Hunter did you be condemning him nine ways to Sunday. It’s what partisans do.

What did Hunter do to earned those millions? Is he a business guru or an expert in the oil business?

He’s a fucking crackhead doing hookers and playing with handguns and his dick.

 

[CowboyTed]

Yep. I've been saying all along, this has never been about Trump. Nothing that happens in any upcoming trial matters in the bigger picture.

We have to fix our political/electoral system. And we sure as hell need to examine ourselves and our society. Before it's too fuckin' late.

US system is looking very dated...

The US Constitution hasn't been changed in any significant manner for 50 years. That is over one fifth of US history in the most significant period of change since civil war...

US enemies have learnt the US weakness. Poor election system which has created some of the highest income inequality and lowest economic mobility in the first world. This causes discontent, it allows individuals to stand up and blame Democrats for it. IT was GOP policies which creats more income inequality and reduced economic mobility...

 

[mudwhistle]

How many times do we have to explain to you idiots that most politicians are not “on the take”. In fact, 30 years of investigations have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Clintons are not on the take.

At the highest levels, very few politicians are “on the take” because everything they do is subject to such scrutiny. Even those arrested tried, and convicted during the Nixon and Reagan administrations were charged with abuses of foreign policy power, and skirting Congressional oversight, but they weren’t charged with money crimes or corruption. Not since Spiro Agnew.

Yeah, instead of going after Democrats for their supposedly “terrible” policies, Republicans for the past 30 years have falsely accuse the Democrats of being on the teak. And there really is no evidence that they are.

Instead of just going along with what these fools are telling you, why don’t you ever check into the of any of their claims? Especially the bullshit lies Donald Trump told you about the “Crooked Hillary” and the “Biden Crime Family”.

Trump spent four years demanding that his DOJ charge them all, with something anything and they came back to him with nothing!!!








That’s why Trump stonewalled all oversight. He was on the take from day one. He’s still raising money on the “stolen election lies”.



Their net worth tracks with their income and book deals. Ditto he Bidens.

If Trump was running the White House you'd do a 180 and think everyone but the Democrats are on the take.

 

[BackAgain]

Back in the 90's convicted felon Charles Manson was interviewed by Newsweek magazine from his jail cell. The bulk of his talk to the reporter was his contention that "Corporations were polluting the environment, and so, were responsible for the deaths of many thousands of people." Because of this, his crimes were relatively minor in comparison, so he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison - - That didn't work. Charles Manson died in prison on November 19, 2017.

The same type of defense is being presented by Trump supporters everyday. "Joe and Hunter Biden are guilty of crimes, therefore Donald Trump's misdeeds should be ignored - - That won't work either. The Bidens may indeed be guilty, but this does not automatically make Donald J Trump innocent!

Trump supporters: Do yourselves a favor and stop using the Charles Manson defense of Donald Trump. Guilty people have been using it for centuries and it doesn't work.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts!

It is a false premise to say that the GOP has ever contended that since Potato and Spud are being investigated, therefore Trump shouldn’t get prosecuted.

Other than that false premise as your main premise, you post still sucks.

Potato and Spud should be fully investigated.

The reason Trump shouldn’t be prosecuted has absolutely nothing at all to do with the Brandon investigation. The reasons, instead, for the contention that Trump shouldn’t get prosecuted are that the prosecutions are all absolutely politically-motivated and because they make up fictional “crimes,” as their “legal” bases.

 

[SavannahMann]

It is a false premise to say that the GOP has ever contended that since Potato and Spud are being investigated, therefore Trump shouldn’t get prosecuted.

Other than that false premise as your main premise, you post still sucks.

Potato and Spud should be fully investigated.

The reason Trump shouldn’t be prosecuted has absolutely nothing at all to do with the Brandon investigation. The reasons, instead, for the contention that Trump shouldn’t get prosecuted are that the prosecutions are all absolutely politically-motivated and because they make up fictional “crimes,” as their “legal” bases.

Not really made up crimes.

Let’s start with an easy one. The Documents case. Trump had them. He wasn’t supposed to have them. He ordered people to move them and hide them. All of that is a crime. And before you say it’s never been a crime before. Lots of people have gone to jail for it including one very similar.

Maryland Man Sentenced for Stealing Secret Documents

archives.fbi.gov

He took a box of documents when he was “allowed to have access”. And he kept it after he was not. He went to jail for it.

So that isn’t a made up crime. People went to jail for it long before Trump was President.

That’s an easy one. And as you can see someone went to jail for it. More than one.

 

[BackAgain]

Not really made up crimes.

Yes. Made up crimes. Really.

Let’s start with an easy one. The Documents case. Trump had them.

He had some documents. Let’s agree on that one.

He wasn’t supposed to have them.

According to whom? Under what “law?”

He ordered people to move them and hide them.

You have made the mistake of converting an allegation into a supposed “fact.” I assume it wasn’t an accident that you did so.

All of that is a crime.

No part of that is a crime. Put up or shut up.

And before you say it’s never been a crime before. Lots of people have gone to jail for it including one very similar.

People have been convicted for committing crimes. Nobody is supposed to get convicted for the non l-commission of alleged crimes. These particular “alleged” crimes are fictional from jump street.

Maryland Man Sentenced for Stealing Secret Documents

archives.fbi.gov

He took a box of documents when he was “allowed to have access”. And he kept it after he was not. He went to jail for it.

You can’t legally take property belonging to the government from the government without their permission. That would be a crime. So far all you’re missing is an analog for your failed analogy.

So that isn’t a made up crime.

Under those circumstances, it isn’t. Under the circumstances of the alleged “case” against President Trump, it is a made up crime.

People went to jail for it long before Trump was President.

For the commission of actual crimes. Sure. Again, no analogy here.

That’s an easy one. And as you can see someone went to jail for it. More than one.

Absolutely irrelevant. If you go to the local stationary store and steal the owner’s candy bar, you have technically committed a crime even if cops decline to arrest shop lifters anymore.

But if you are the President of the United States and are, thus, the very person who makes the determination under the law as to which papers are “Presidential Records,” then your retention of those papers which you haven’t declared to be “Presidential Records” isn’t at all akin to stealing a god damned thing.

Tell ya what. I’ve read the Presidential Records Act. I’m gonna go ahead and guess that maybe you did, too. So tell us all which provision of the PRA states which documents constitute “Presidential Records.” Go.

 

[Arresmillao]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!"

There is literally ZERO evidence Biden has committed a crime.

All the tards have are innuendos, smears, lies, and hoaxes.

It's all a giant pile of red herrings to distract them from Dear Leader's ACTUAL crimes.

In reality, MAGA trash cult member are not that stupid, they just do a great job at pretending...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I suspect the reason Trump got the nomination and the office in 2016 was many voters thought he’d actually shake up the establishment. Change the status quo of rule by billionaires and big corporations. Much like Bernie Bros thought Bernie would, until the D Party screwed him TWICE and he folded like a cheap suit.

So, apparently some of the electorate sees what you describe, but fails to understand the two crime families will never be the answer.

RFK Jr is by far a better candidate than Joe or Don though not without concerns, yet he’s attacked by the establishment just as you described.

RFK Jr is a Democrat. Yeah, he has enemies of the Democrat Party, but still a Democrat. President Trump had enemies of the Establishment Republicans, and expose those shitfucks, for what they were. Many left the government to end up giving their seats to the Dems, thus handing the gavel back to Nancy Piglosi. I guess Stripper that you didnt like low gasoline and food prices? You didnt like it when lots of people, many minorities, were working?

 

[whitehall]

Not reasonably you can't. What buffoonery are you spreading around?

This kind?

The cartoon makes my case. The left wing anarchist movement is based on some perceived "payback" for past grievances. They steal money from honest shopkeepers and tell themselves it's for the greater good.