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(COMMENT)The problem with all that is that what was said in the LoN Covenant and what happened on the ground were different. If Britain had not violated the covenant there would not have been war for a hundred years.
I am trying to figure out what you are saying but you are jumping around too much.
P F Tinmore, et al,
One more time!
(COMMENT)The problem with all that is that what was said in the LoN Covenant and what happened on the ground were different. If Britain had not violated the covenant there would not have been war for a hundred years.
I am trying to figure out what you are saying but you are jumping around too much.
What specific "violation?"
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)One more time!
(COMMENT)I am trying to figure out what you are saying but you are jumping around too much.
What specific "violation?"
Most Respectfully,
R
The mandate was to assist the people to create an independent state.
Britain did not move in that direction. Instead it stepped on any effort of the people for independence.
The mandate was to cater to the wishes of the people.
Britain shoved the people aside and catered to the wishes of foreigners.
P F Tinmore, et al,
I believe this is Palestinian thinking, not taking into account that the Mandate was driven by multiple tasks.
(COMMENT)One more time!
(COMMENT)
What specific "violation?"
Most Respectfully,
R
The mandate was to assist the people to create an independent state.
Britain did not move in that direction. Instead it stepped on any effort of the people for independence.
The mandate was to cater to the wishes of the people.
Britain shoved the people aside and catered to the wishes of foreigners.
The Mandate was a creation of the Allied Powers and the LoN (not the UK). And the Mandate was driven by the Power of:
The "offer" (Part II) of independence was made by the General Assembly in Resolution 181, not by the UK. The General Assembly is senior to the Mandatory (the UK subordinate). The General Assembly is the Body of the Covenant.
- Treaty of Sevres 1920 (Section VII)
- Covenant League of Nations 1924 (Article 22)
The Palestinian is very wrong to accuse the UK of doing what you say. It did more than enough for the Arab, who took every opportunity to bite the hand that helped them. Yes, just look-up Izz ad-Din al-Qassam. He was a pain to the French Mandate from which Lebanon and Syria were formed, and he was a disruptive influence in the British Mandate from which Jordan and Israel were formed; and another unknown Arab State was offered.
But the process was the same. The recognition of these states was made through the power of the General Assembly.
Most Respectfully,
R
Didn't you catch Rocco's reference to Palestinian Thinking?P F Tinmore, et al,
I believe this is Palestinian thinking, not taking into account that the Mandate was driven by multiple tasks.
(COMMENT)The mandate was to assist the people to create an independent state.
Britain did not move in that direction. Instead it stepped on any effort of the people for independence.
The mandate was to cater to the wishes of the people.
Britain shoved the people aside and catered to the wishes of foreigners.
The Mandate was a creation of the Allied Powers and the LoN (not the UK). And the Mandate was driven by the Power of:
The "offer" (Part II) of independence was made by the General Assembly in Resolution 181, not by the UK. The General Assembly is senior to the Mandatory (the UK subordinate). The General Assembly is the Body of the Covenant.
- Treaty of Sevres 1920 (Section VII)
- Covenant League of Nations 1924 (Article 22)
The Palestinian is very wrong to accuse the UK of doing what you say. It did more than enough for the Arab, who took every opportunity to bite the hand that helped them. Yes, just look-up Izz ad-Din al-Qassam. He was a pain to the French Mandate from which Lebanon and Syria were formed, and he was a disruptive influence in the British Mandate from which Jordan and Israel were formed; and another unknown Arab State was offered.
But the process was the same. The recognition of these states was made through the power of the General Assembly.
Most Respectfully,
R
How does any of this change the facts that I posted?
Didn't you catch Rocco's reference to Palestinian Thinking?P F Tinmore, et al,
I believe this is Palestinian thinking, not taking into account that the Mandate was driven by multiple tasks.
(COMMENT)
The Mandate was a creation of the Allied Powers and the LoN (not the UK). And the Mandate was driven by the Power of:
The "offer" (Part II) of independence was made by the General Assembly in Resolution 181, not by the UK. The General Assembly is senior to the Mandatory (the UK subordinate). The General Assembly is the Body of the Covenant.
- Treaty of Sevres 1920 (Section VII)
- Covenant League of Nations 1924 (Article 22)
The Palestinian is very wrong to accuse the UK of doing what you say. It did more than enough for the Arab, who took every opportunity to bite the hand that helped them. Yes, just look-up Izz ad-Din al-Qassam. He was a pain to the French Mandate from which Lebanon and Syria were formed, and he was a disruptive influence in the British Mandate from which Jordan and Israel were formed; and another unknown Arab State was offered.
But the process was the same. The recognition of these states was made through the power of the General Assembly.
Most Respectfully,
R
How does any of this change the facts that I posted?
Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?Didn't you catch Rocco's reference to Palestinian Thinking?How does any of this change the facts that I posted?
No.
Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?Didn't you catch Rocco's reference to Palestinian Thinking?
No.
I think everyone reading this board realizes that Rocco is very knowledgeable and doesn't use what you call "Israeli propaganda terms." The problem is that you don't want to accept anything he says regardless if he is telling the truth. By the way, did you friends or relatives in Hamas send you the following on your magic computer that really isn't there.Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?
"Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?
"Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
I think everyone reading this board realizes that Rocco is very knowledgeable and doesn't use what you call "Israeli propaganda terms." The problem is that you don't want to accept anything he says regardless if he is telling the truth. By the way, did you friends or relatives in Hamas send you the following on your magic computer that really isn't there.Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?
"Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
Palestinians and Egyptians want change
By:
ICEJ News
Posted on:
Fri, 22 Feb 2013 +0100
Even as Israels chaotic post-election coalition forming process continued this week, a poll conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) agency showed a massive drop in support for the Islamist terror militia Hamas among Palestinians and an uptick in support for its rivals in the Palestinian Authorities. The same poll showed overwhelming support for new elections in the Palestinian areas, and a majority of those polled opposed a return to violence against Israel.
Which shows you don't read what people post making it usless to reply to your fantasies. Got that, Tinmore?
"Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
Tinnie----if you do not believe that "palestinians" harbor a value system and
characteritic MORES and CUSTOMS ----then you are indicating that you do not
see them as a NATION or a PEOPLE . OK if that is how you see things.
In fact I agree----there is no characteristic "palestinian arab culture" because
palestinians are not a "PEOPLE" aka "nation"----the are people who
migrated in and out of "palestine" and various neighboring lands over
the past 1200 years and have recently decided to invent themselves as a "nation"
nothing wrong with such a nation-----some 250 years ago YANKEES invented
themselves as a nation and call themselves AMERICANS. Over those 250 years
"AMERICANS" did manage to elaborate an actual specific culture----sorta.
however jews invented themselves----jews have been a NATION--or
"people" in the middle east and outside of it for at least 3000 years
You've been overdosing on stupid pills.I think everyone reading this board realizes that Rocco is very knowledgeable and doesn't use what you call "Israeli propaganda terms." The problem is that you don't want to accept anything he says regardless if he is telling the truth. By the way, did you friends or relatives in Hamas send you the following on your magic computer that really isn't there."Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
Palestinians and Egyptians want change
By:
ICEJ News
Posted on:
Fri, 22 Feb 2013 +0100
Even as Israels chaotic post-election coalition forming process continued this week, a poll conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) agency showed a massive drop in support for the Islamist terror militia Hamas among Palestinians and an uptick in support for its rivals in the Palestinian Authorities. The same poll showed overwhelming support for new elections in the Palestinian areas, and a majority of those polled opposed a return to violence against Israel.
ICEJ News
So you post another Israeli propaganda site.
You've been overdosing on stupid pills.I think everyone reading this board realizes that Rocco is very knowledgeable and doesn't use what you call "Israeli propaganda terms." The problem is that you don't want to accept anything he says regardless if he is telling the truth. By the way, did you friends or relatives in Hamas send you the following on your magic computer that really isn't there.
Palestinians and Egyptians want change
By:
ICEJ News
Posted on:
Fri, 22 Feb 2013 +0100
Even as Israels chaotic post-election coalition forming process continued this week, a poll conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) agency showed a massive drop in support for the Islamist terror militia Hamas among Palestinians and an uptick in support for its rivals in the Palestinian Authorities. The same poll showed overwhelming support for new elections in the Palestinian areas, and a majority of those polled opposed a return to violence against Israel.
ICEJ News
So you post another Israeli propaganda site.
"Palestinian Thinking' is an Israeli propaganda term.
What does it mean?
Tinnie----if you do not believe that "palestinians" harbor a value system and
characteritic MORES and CUSTOMS ----then you are indicating that you do not
see them as a NATION or a PEOPLE . OK if that is how you see things.
In fact I agree----there is no characteristic "palestinian arab culture" because
palestinians are not a "PEOPLE" aka "nation"----the are people who
migrated in and out of "palestine" and various neighboring lands over
the past 1200 years and have recently decided to invent themselves as a "nation"
nothing wrong with such a nation-----some 250 years ago YANKEES invented
themselves as a nation and call themselves AMERICANS. Over those 250 years
"AMERICANS" did manage to elaborate an actual specific culture----sorta.
however jews invented themselves----jews have been a NATION--or
"people" in the middle east and outside of it for at least 3000 years
So you can say something like "the Jews" like they are all in lockstep with each other?
Tinnie----if you do not believe that "palestinians" harbor a value system and
characteritic MORES and CUSTOMS ----then you are indicating that you do not
see them as a NATION or a PEOPLE . OK if that is how you see things.
In fact I agree----there is no characteristic "palestinian arab culture" because
palestinians are not a "PEOPLE" aka "nation"----the are people who
migrated in and out of "palestine" and various neighboring lands over
the past 1200 years and have recently decided to invent themselves as a "nation"
nothing wrong with such a nation-----some 250 years ago YANKEES invented
themselves as a nation and call themselves AMERICANS. Over those 250 years
"AMERICANS" did manage to elaborate an actual specific culture----sorta.
however jews invented themselves----jews have been a NATION--or
"people" in the middle east and outside of it for at least 3000 years
So you can say something like "the Jews" like they are all in lockstep with each other?
No I don't NO NATION OF PEOPLE ARE ALL IN LOCKSTEP with
each other----some have a "CULTURE" which demands conformity
more than others. ---in fact ---such a demand or lack thereof
is a characteristic of DIFFERENT cultures. Jews, in general---
tolerate difference of opinion and even encourage it. Kids
who express a DIVERGENT view are often seen as ---
INTELLIGENT -----to the point that jewish kids are sometimes
so encouraged that they become "smart mouth" In some cultures,
a divergence of opinion is considered in a very negative light
to the point that even those people harbor them they are reluctant
to express them. ----you know all this stuff-----you are playing
SMART KEYBOARD
Unless Tinnie's source is some Arab propaganda site (where the news is actually laughable) or direct from one of his friends or relatives in Gaza, any other source is to be laughed at, even when it comes from a Christian newsletter whose writers are based in Israel. And here Tinnie has been trying to pull the wool over our eyes that he is a Christian. I guess that is Taqiyya at work here. I think by now we realize that Tinnie can't stand the truth from Rocco who certainly appears very knowledgeable on what has gone on and is still going on. I think that most of the readers see how even-handed Rocco is, but Tinnie thinks that Rocco is another one with a "lying Israeli" point of view.You've been overdosing on stupid pills.ICEJ News
So you post another Israeli propaganda site.
ICEJ News
"Palestinian mentality", then.So you can say something like "the Jews" like they are all in lockstep with each other?
No I don't NO NATION OF PEOPLE ARE ALL IN LOCKSTEP with
each other----some have a "CULTURE" which demands conformity
more than others. ---in fact ---such a demand or lack thereof
is a characteristic of DIFFERENT cultures. Jews, in general---
tolerate difference of opinion and even encourage it. Kids
who express a DIVERGENT view are often seen as ---
INTELLIGENT -----to the point that jewish kids are sometimes
so encouraged that they become "smart mouth" In some cultures,
a divergence of opinion is considered in a very negative light
to the point that even those people harbor them they are reluctant
to express them. ----you know all this stuff-----you are playing
SMART KEYBOARD
Palestine is a multi ethnic, multi religious country. There is a wide variety of opinions.
There is no such thing as "Palestinian thinking."
"Palestinian mentality", then.No I don't NO NATION OF PEOPLE ARE ALL IN LOCKSTEP with
each other----some have a "CULTURE" which demands conformity
more than others. ---in fact ---such a demand or lack thereof
is a characteristic of DIFFERENT cultures. Jews, in general---
tolerate difference of opinion and even encourage it. Kids
who express a DIVERGENT view are often seen as ---
INTELLIGENT -----to the point that jewish kids are sometimes
so encouraged that they become "smart mouth" In some cultures,
a divergence of opinion is considered in a very negative light
to the point that even those people harbor them they are reluctant
to express them. ----you know all this stuff-----you are playing
SMART KEYBOARD
Palestine is a multi ethnic, multi religious country. There is a wide variety of opinions.
There is no such thing as "Palestinian thinking."
