The lawfare against Trump takes a new twist

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Dear BackAgain , Read the petition for a writ of certiorari here or below:

PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
BEFORE JUDGMENT

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24213180/20231211115417267_no-23-624-us-v-donald-j-trump-petition.pdf

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Read the government’s motion for expedited consideration of the petition by the Supreme Court here or below:

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

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Read the motion for expedited review in the D.C. Court of Appeals here or below:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24213189/usa-motion-to-expedite.pdf

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

No. It’s true.

"The Special Counsel, on behalf of the United States, respectfully moves, pursuant to Supreme Court Rule 21, for expedited consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment, filed today, in this case.* The Special Counsel further moves for expedited merits briefing if the Court grants the petition."

Doesn't sound at all like you portray it, but then again you believe Trump's shit not only doesn't stink, but that it comes out in rainbows.

 

[BackAgain]

As we tell people to read the indictments when they spew nonsense, we ask you to read what Smith is actually saying and try and comprehend it.

On Dec. 11, the government filed a petition for a writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court requesting the Court resolve the question of whether former president Donald Trump is immune from federal prosecution for crimes committed while in office. The Justice Department is seeking to bypass the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, filing the petition before that court has ruled. The government also filed a motion for expedited consideration of the petition by the Supreme Court and an “expedited merits briefing if the Court grants the petition.” Additionally, the Justice Department filed a motion to expedite Trump's appeal of Judge Chutkan’s ruling in the D.C. Circuit. On Dec. 1, Judge Chutkan rejected Trump’s motion to dismiss the federal election interference case against him on the grounds of presidential immunity. Trump filed an appeal of her ruling in the D.C. Circuit on Dec. 7.

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

As we keep suggesting to you, you should get the first tiny bit of a handle on what you’re trying to discuss before you bloviate.

Nobody asked you to repeat that which everybody can (and many of us already have) read for ourselves. The fact is: he is seeking an advisory opinion.

 

[BackAgain]

OK,

 

[BackAgain]

"The Special Counsel, on behalf of the United States, respectfully moves, pursuant to Supreme Court Rule 21, for expedited consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment, filed today, in this case.* The Special Counsel further moves for expedited merits briefing if the Court grants the petition."

Doesn't sound at all like you portray it, but then again you believe Trump's shit not only doesn't stink, but that it comes out in rainbows.

I hardly care what it “sounds like” to you.

It’s what it is.

 

[WEATHER53]

Read the government’s motion for expedited consideration of the petition by the Supreme Court here or below:

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

It’s not the government
It’s one person on a political tirade

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

As we keep suggesting to you, you should get the first tiny bit of a handle on what you’re trying to discuss before you bloviate.

Nobody asked you to repeat that which everybody can (and many of us already have) read for ourselves. The fact is: he is seeking an advisory opinion.

The reason I link to things you claim you all know, is because your claims seem false when facts are in -- as with Trump's claims.
Smith knows not to ask for one, since he would not get a hearing. Jack Smith is not asking for one. I listed what he has sent over to the Court. You and others of your ilk have a habit of ignoring things and making believe they just go away.

 

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I hardly care what it “sounds like” to you.

It’s what it is.

In the echo chamber of the cult-of-personality surrounding Mr. Trump, yes it is.

 

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It’s not the government
It’s one person on a political tirade

Team up with Liability.

 

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No. XX-XX
In the Supreme Court of the United States
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PETITIONER
v.
DONALD J. TRUMP
ON PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
BEFORE JUDGMENT TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
BEFORE JUDGMENT

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES _______________ No. 23- UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PETITIONER v. DONALD J. TRUMP _______________ ON PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI BEFORE JUDGMENT TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT _______________ MOTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO EXPEDITE BRIEFING ON THE PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI BEFORE JUDGMENT AND FOR EXPEDITED MERITS BRIEFING IF THE COURT GRANTS THE PETITION


IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
______________
No. 23-3228
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
DONALD J. TRUMP,
Defendant-Appellant
______________
GOVERNMENT’S OPPOSED MOTION
FOR EXPEDITED APPELLATE REVIEW

Where oh where is there an asking for an advisory opinion?

Special Counsel Jack Smith Petitions the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s Immunity Defense

Smith also filed a motion for expedited review in the D.C. Circuit to prevent delay of Trump’s Jan. 6 trial

www.lawfaremedia.org

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24213189/usa-motion-to-expedite.pdf

DocumentCloud

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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24213180/20231211115417267_no-23-624-us-v-donald-j-trump-petition.pdf

Where oh where is there an asking for an advisory opinion?

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Federal courts cannot issue advisory opinions because of the Constitution's case-or-controversy requirement.
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[Billiejeens]

Keeper post

Absolutely

 

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Example of an advisory opinion:

Where oh where is Jack Smith asking for an advisory opinion? Can anyboy find it? Does it exist?

OPINIONS OF THE JUSTICES TO THE SENATE, 440 Mass. 1201

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On February 3, 2004, the Justices submitted the following answer to a question propounded to them by the Senate.

To the Honorable the Senate of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts:

The undersigned Justices of the Supreme Judicial Court respectfully submit their answers to the question set forth in an order adopted by the Senate on December 11, 2003, and transmitted to the Justices on December 12, 2003. The order indicates that there is pending before the General Court a bill, Senate No. 2175, entitled "An Act relative to civil unions." A copy of the bill was transmitted with the order. As we describe more fully below, the bill adds G. L. c. 207A to the General Laws, which provides for the establishment of "civil unions" for same-sex "spouses," provided the individuals meet certain qualifications described in the bill. [Note 1]

The order indicates that grave doubt exists as to the constitutionality of the bill if enacted into law and requests the opinions of the Justices on the following "important question of law":

"Does Senate, No. 2175, which prohibits same-sex couples from entering into marriage...

 

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search engine: is jack smith asking for an advisory opinion

 

[Rawley]

You are so useless.

As always, we stand in awe of your brilliant legal analysis. Just stellar.

 

[Arlette]

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I’m shocked. Imagine asking the SCOTUS for what amounts to an advisory opinion.

Our courts don’t render advisory opinions. So, I expect the SCOTUS to take a pass on accepting the Special Persecutor’s “motion.” But, even so, maybe the guy is finally starting to dimly grasp that what he’s doing is improper.

Trump's total immunity claim is ridiculous. Don't you agree that the issue needs to be addressed?

 

[Billiejeens]

What does? Seeking an advisory opinion?

It might actually be expeditious. But I wouldn’t deem it “prudent.”

OTOH, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

I’m merely expressing my doubt that it’s a proper thing to do.

If SCOTUS grants the writ, agreeing to decide, one of two things is likely:

They will say it’s okey dokey to proceed to a trial OR they will say that, under these circumstances, the trial can’t proceed.

I’m not sure why they’d bother when ordinary practice would have them refrain from offering any advisory opinion, like that; and they could simply await the outcome of the trial(s) and any ensuing appeals for the issues to fully “ripen.”

Finding out if President Trump is immune from prosecution prior to prosecuting doesn't seem like the worst idea.

 

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I’m shocked. Imagine asking the SCOTUS for what amounts to an advisory opinion.

Our courts don’t render advisory opinions. So, I expect the SCOTUS to take a pass on accepting the Special Persecutor’s “motion.” But, even so, maybe the guy is finally starting to dimly grasp that what he’s doing is improper.

What's improper about it?

What has your right wing media talking heads told you?

Do you support a banana republic where those running for office are above the law?

 

[BackAgain]

The reason I link to things you claim you all know, is because your claims seem false when facts are in -- as with Trump's claims.
Smith knows not to ask for one, since he would not get a hearing. Jack Smith is not asking for one. I listed what he has sent over to the Court. You and others of your ilk have a habit of ignoring things and making believe they just go away.

When you link to anything we all claim to know let me know.

But that’s not at all what you do.

You happen not to agree with a line of speculation. That’s fine. As I already noted, ultimately the court itself could disagree. But your disagreement isn’t the same as what you claim I said in the first place.

Again, I don’t believe I ever said that Smith asked for a hearing. He filed a cert application. He’s allowed to do so. And if they reject it in January, so what? That doesn’t mean that Smith wasn’t allowed to ask.

By the way, I never argued that being President gives one absolute immunity. That is a line of legal argument — but not one I happen to agree with.

The answer to that alleged question doesn’t require attention at this stage. And there’s no reason to believe that the SCOTUS would grant a Trump request for a stay before trial to address that issue from the defense side. Again, there is no reason for the SCOTUS to address this until it comes to them in due course after trial, conviction and the usual appellate process.