The mountain of evidence gets a little higher.

[berg80]

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report​

A committee led by Michigan Republicans on Wednesday published an extraordinary debunking of voter fraud claims in the state, delivering a comprehensive rebuke to a litany of accusations about improprieties in the 2020 election and its aftermath.

The 55-page report, produced by a Michigan State Senate committee of three Republicans and one Democrat, is a systematic rebuttal to an array of false claims about the election from supporters of former President Donald J. Trump. The authors focus overwhelmingly on Michigan, but they also expose lies perpetuated about the vote-counting process in Georgia.

The report is unsparing in its criticism of those who have promoted false theories about the election. It debunks claims from Trump allies including Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow; Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former president’s lawyer; and Mr. Trump himself.

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report (Published 2021)

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states.

www.nytimes.com

The belief Trump won the election is the lynchpin on which his candidacy depends. His supporters have internalized his fabricated grievance against "the rigged system." He claims the presidency was taken from him so they experience the powerful emotion that something was taken from them. It wasn't. Getting folks to believe it was, to borrow a phrase, is an essential falsehood. The essential utility of Trump's falsehoods.

The report from MI Repubs puts another stake in the heart of the Big Lie. It is conclusive evidence the voter fraud allegation is a con. I am not waiting for his following to have an epiphany on this matter. They are too invested in it. They need to be invested in it. Without it, all they have left is the recognition Don is a bloviating huckster controlling the smoke and mirrors from behind the curtain.

 

[Mac1958]

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report​

A committee led by Michigan Republicans on Wednesday published an extraordinary debunking of voter fraud claims in the state, delivering a comprehensive rebuke to a litany of accusations about improprieties in the 2020 election and its aftermath.

The 55-page report, produced by a Michigan State Senate committee of three Republicans and one Democrat, is a systematic rebuttal to an array of false claims about the election from supporters of former President Donald J. Trump. The authors focus overwhelmingly on Michigan, but they also expose lies perpetuated about the vote-counting process in Georgia.

The report is unsparing in its criticism of those who have promoted false theories about the election. It debunks claims from Trump allies including Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow; Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former president’s lawyer; and Mr. Trump himself.

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report (Published 2021)

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states.

www.nytimes.com

The belief Trump won the election is the lynchpin on which his candidacy depends. His supporters have internalized his fabricated grievance against "the rigged system." He claims the presidency was taken from him so they experience the powerful emotion that something was taken from them. It wasn't. Getting folks to believe it was, to borrow a phrase, is an essential falsehood. The essential utility of Trump's falsehoods.

The report from MI Repubs puts another stake in the heart of the Big Lie. It is conclusive evidence the voter fraud allegation is a con. I am not waiting for his following to have an epiphany on this matter. They are too invested in it. They need to be invested in it. Without it, all they have left is the recognition Don is a bloviating huckster controlling the smoke and mirrors from behind the curtain.

It won't matter, of course.

We'll see them called RINOs and commies and traitors, as usual.

 

[kyzr]

BERG's morning TDS. thread, yawn.

Biden can't win, and won't drop out.

 

[22lcidw]

It won't matter, of course.

We'll see them called RINOs and commies and traitors, as usual.

Promises before the election. Promises not made after the election.

 

[berg80]

It won't matter, of course.

We'll see them called RINOs and commies and traitors, as usual.

They'll be metaphorically burned at the stake in the public square as all doubters of the Wizard of Trumpworld are.

 

[Redheaded Stranger]

tldr

 

[berg80]

BERG's morning TDS. thread, yawn.

Biden can't win, and won't drop out.

The report from MI Repubs puts another stake in the heart of the Big Lie. It is conclusive evidence the voter fraud allegation is a con. I am not waiting for his following to have an epiphany on this matter. They are too invested in it. They need to be invested in it.

 

[berg80]

Many election administrators and officials have pointed to the fact that unprecedented turnout in2020 stress-tested our elections system. Still, around 40% of the eligible population did not cast a vote. For a robust democracy, we must invest in and build a system that can withstand ever greater turnout in future elections. In order to do this, this Committee undertook the foundational work of investigating the 2020 election— from both the perspective of election administrators, officials and workers and the perspective of the observing public.

The Committee embarked upon hours of public testimony, the review of countless documents and presentations on the 2020 election, and careful review of the elections process itself. This Committee found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud in Michigan’s prosecution of the 2020 election. However, we cannot and should not overlook severe weaknesses in our elections system. Whether it is lack of clarity in the tabulation of ballots, unnecessary barriers to ensuring that every lawfully cast ballot is counted, inconsistent poll worker or challenger training, or simply a system not primarily designed to handle ballots cast absentee or otherwise prior to Election Day, it is the opinion of this Committee that the Legislature has a duty to make statutory improvements to our elections system.

This Committee exhausted every resource available to it to thoroughly and faithfully examine our elections process in Michigan and drill down on claims and testimony specific to the 2020 election. However, this investigation should not be considered exhaustive. Remaining conscientious of the limitations of this Committee, every possible investigative avenue was not undertaken. Nevertheless, this Committee stands steadfastly behind the recommendation that our current elections system requires change in order to meet the future challenges presented by modern voting preferences, behaviors, and threats. There are clear weaknesses in our elections system that require legislative remedy.

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport.pdf

 

[Harpy Eagle]

tldr

400ish words is too long for you to read.

That explains a lot about your post on this forum.

 

[Redheaded Stranger]

400ish words is too long for you to read.

That explains a lot about your post on this forum.

Yeah, it's a forum, not a 700 level seminar.

 

[rightwinger]

It won't matter, of course.

We'll see them called RINOs and commies and traitors, as usual.

It is difficult for Republicans who are responsible for running fair elections and are then charged by their own party of stealing the election

Do you defend yourself or your party?

 

[Sunni Man]

400ish words is too long for you to read.

Nobody wants waste time reading through all that nonsense.
When it could be summed up in one short sentence.
"I hate Trump."
..............................................................................................................................................

 

[leftwinger]

Pure BS spin in this one:

Signature Verification Process
The Committee was made aware of claims that election workers at the TCF Center in downtown Detroit were instructed to not match signatures on envelopes and furthermore were instructed to “pre-date” the received date of absentee ballots. To the contrary, these processing steps — signature matching and verification of the date received — occurred at another location and were completed by other employees prior to the time the ballots were sent to the TCF Center for counting. Workers at the AVCBs are to check for the clerk’s signature and time stamp as well as making sure the voter signature is present. However, the validation of the voter signature by the clerk’s office is indicated by the clerk’s signature and stamp. As for the “pre-dating” allegation, Detroit Senior Election Advisor Chris Thomas explained this date field is necessary for processing the ballot. Without the voter present, there is no way to have that date, which was recorded into the QVF by the official who took the same day registration at another location. Since the poll books at the AVCB are not connected to the QVF during Election Day, there is no way to check what was entered at the site where the voter registered. Therefore, a “placeholder” date is entered, and the poll worker assumes the official accepting the registration did their due diligence.
Kent County Clerk Lisa Lyons, and Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, both testified regarding the possible requirement of a “real time” signature when applying for an absentee ballot, indicating it would be highly preferred rather than performing the application process online. In addition to the preferences of election officials, the Michigan Court of Claims struck down Secretary of State Benson’s guidance on signature matching, which required workers to presume the validity of signatures, ruling that the required presumption of validity is found nowhere in state law and mandating such was a direct violation of the Administrative Procedures Act.
After reviewing these facts and receiving the testimony of experts and clerks, it is abundantly clear that the signature verification process is one of significant importance. With new policies in place due to the adoption of Proposal 18-3, current election procedures do not require a new voter to, potentially, ever make face-to-face contact with an election official or staff throughout the process of registration, requesting an absentee ballot application, or completing and submitting their ballot. Therefore, requiring a voter to confirm their identity at some point during the process is imperative. Whether providing a “real time” signature, a government-issued photo identification card, or other unique personally identifying information, like a driver’s license number or a state identification number, requesting that a voter provide one of these easily-accessible identifiers will go a long way to strengthen the integrity of our system, while supporting the new, more efficient way of administering our elections.
Therefore, the Committee recommends that the secretary of state begin the process of establishing actual rules for examining and validating signatures consistent with a ruling of the Michigan Court of Claims. The Committee also recommends that statewide measures be put in place to ensure eligible voters are not unreasonably denied access to vote if there is an issue with their signature. Finally, the Committee recommends that reasonable measures be put in place to ensure voters can easily and properly identify themselves when exercising their right to vote.

****so now they recommended they do signature review? You can register online with nothing?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Another day, another psycho thread from Stalinberg80.
Just more GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT from the demented LEFT.
One of the States that cut off vote tabulation in the dead of the night says " nothing to see here."
GTFOH!!!!!

 

[berg80]

NYT paysite. Not one fact. Trump won NOV03 2020 w/o bogus mail-in votes, re-running stacks, one-way 150K 3AM vote spikes, secret 330AM ballot drop offs in DET and possible machine tampering etc.

Your denial of reality is expected and palpable.

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport.pdf

 

[billyerock123]

It won't matter, of course.

We'll see them called RINOs and commies and traitors, as usual.

this is sad but true ...

 

[berg80]

It is difficult for Republicans who are responsible for running fair elections and are then charged by their own party of stealing the election

Do you defend yourself or your party?

You publish the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Right at this moment the chips are falling on the pointy heads of The Following who are frantically looking for their tin foil hats.

 

[leftwinger]

Bottom line: they did little review and are spinning and twisting long-winded stories like on SIG verification. They did nothing before or after. They make reccomendations now after the damage is doe? Basically admitted the system was flawed before and worse now. MICH R are forked up. No wonder board maggots took this phony report. Ill figure it out later. Gotta work.

 

[berg80]

Bottom line: they did little review and are spinning and twisting long-winded stories like on SIG verification. They did nothing before or after. They make reccomendations now after the damage is doe? Basically admitted the system was flawed before and worse now. MICH R are forked up. No wonder board maggots took this phony report. Ill figure it out later. Gotta work.

Bottom line: The Committee embarked upon hours of public testimony, the review of countless documents and presentations on the 2020 election, and careful review of the elections process itself. This Committee found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud in Michigan’s prosecution of the 2020 election.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah, it's a forum, not a 700 level seminar.

With each post you dig the hole deeper.