The Real Story: Kilmar Agrego Garcia

[Leo123]

Here are real facts.....When they arrested Garcia he had rolls of cash and drugs. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13. More here:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

"When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with roles of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil."

"Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed."

"He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18."

"Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia’s wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her."

 

[jackflash]

Here are real facts.....When they arrested Garcia he had rolls of cash and drugs. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13. More here:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

"When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with roles of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil."

"Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed."

"He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18."

"Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia’s wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her."

From the description U gave in this post Kilmar A. Garcia sounds like an every day typical statist lefty. Small wonder why the statist left desire to want to pal around with him.

 

[Care4all]

Oh silly one, Garcia's behavior is not the issue...

The issue is the Trump admin lawlessness.

Not following the Court order that Garcia be protected from being sent back to ElSalvador.

And not trying to correct their admitted law breaking (mistake) by getting him back to the USA for his due court hearing, to get the court to remove the protection order....

Right now, the whole Trump administration are acting as OUTLAWS!

 

[Leo123]

From the description U gave in this post Kilmar A. Garcia sounds like an every day typical statist lefty. Small wonder why the statist left desire to want to pal around with him.

Most of my post were direct quotes from my link to Home Land Security.

 

[Winston]

Here are real facts.....When they arrested Garcia he had rolls of cash and drugs. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13. More here:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

"When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with roles of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil."

"Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed."

"He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18."

"Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia’s wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her."

If all the claims are true, then what is the problem with locking him up here and convicting him in a criminal court? I mean, what happened to those rolls of cash? Where are the drugs?

Did you notice the date on the police report? Who was president then? Why did the Trump administration let him go? Why did they protect him? Obviously, you do not know how immigration court works, he was not found "guilty" of gang activity, it was found he could not prove he was not in a gang.

One of the officers involved in this stop was later criminally charged and successfully prosecuted for inappropriate actions as an officer. This is not about Garcia, MS-13, drugs, or violence. This is nothing more than attempt by the Trump administration to avoid "due process". Today, it is Garcia, tomorrow, it is you or I.

 

[Leo123]

Oh silly one, Garcia's behavior is not the issue...

The issue is the Trump admin lawlessness.

Not following the Court order that Garcia be protected from being sent back to ElSalvador.

And not trying to correct their admitted law breaking (mistake) by getting him back to the USA for his due court hearing, to get the court to remove the protection order....

Right now, the whole Trump administration are acting as OUTLAWS!

Corrupt courts, Marxist judges appointed by Soros promoted and funded politicians. America is in the midst of a typical Marxist takeover. Thank God We The People have the power and not them.

With the election of Trump, America is experiencing a foundational, Bureaucratic, shakeup in DC which has become ran by Marxist, Democrat, Soros funded leftist cult which has only 1 goal.....Get Trump. At any cost because he threatens to put the brakes on their colossal money grab in the form of useless programs, grants, government waste, etc. That is also why they hate Musk.

Your knowledge of America and American politics seems shallow and wanting.

 

[Leo123]

If all the claims are true, then what is the problem with locking him up here and convicting him in a criminal court? I mean, what happened to those rolls of cash? Where are the drugs?

Did you notice the date on the police report? Who was president then? Why did the Trump administration let him go? Why did they protect him? Obviously, you do not know how immigration court works, he was not found "guilty" of gang activity, it was found he could not prove he was not in a gang.

One of the officers involved in this stop was later criminally charged and successfully prosecuted for inappropriate actions as an officer. This is not about Garcia, MS-13, drugs, or violence. This is nothing more than attempt by the Trump administration to avoid "due process". Today, it is Garcia, tomorrow, it is you or I.

Why don't you just answer your own questions with citations and facts or just go away?

 

[Care4all]

Corrupt courts, Marxist judges appointed by Soros promoted and funded politicians. America is in the midst of a typical Marxist takeover. Thank God We The People have the power and not them.

With the election of Trump, America is experiencing a foundational, Bureaucratic, shakeup in DC which has become ran by Marxist, Democrat, Soros funded leftist cult which has only 1 goal.....Get Trump. At any cost because he threatens to put the brakes on their colossal money grab in the form of useless programs, grants, government waste, etc. That is also why they hate Musk.

Your knowledge of America and American politics seems shallow and wanting.

Many, if not most of the judges fighting Trump's lawless and unconstitutional moves are not liberals, but are conservative appointed judges, a couple appointed by Trump himself.

Time to get yourself another 'excuse story' to regurgitate....that one above ...is tired and old.

 

[MarathonMike]

Here are real facts.....When they arrested Garcia he had rolls of cash and drugs. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13. More here:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

"When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with roles of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil."

"Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed."

"He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18."

"Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia’s wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her."

The truly sad thing is our mainstream media totally know this, but they work for a political party LAUGHABLY named the "Democrats". Does anyone think a Party Controlled Media belongs in America, especially you Trump/MAGA haters?

 

[Leo123]

Many, if not most of the judges fighting Trump's lawless and unconstitutional moves are not liberals, but are conservative appointed judges, a couple appointed by Trump himself.

Time to get yourself another 'excuse story' to regurgitate....that one above ...is tired and old.

Well, most aren't and, why would you expect a POTUS to appoint all one party affiliated judges? Trump was acting as he should, appointment by merit. I doesn't matter if they disagree on non political issues. You're just used to the tyrannical Democrat grab that happened with Obama and Biden so you think it's normal to make up charges against people for purely political reasons (like they did with Trump) Besides you are a never-Trumper at the very least anyway.

 

[Leo123]

The truly sad thing is our mainstream media totally know this, but they work for a political party LAUGHABLY named the "Democrats". Does anyone think a Party Controlled Media belongs in America, especially you Trump/MAGA haters?

Yeah, just read some MSM articles on this guy. They say he was picked up in a parking lot at Home Depot with 3 or 4 other guys. No mention of him holding cash, drugs or that the other guys were MS-13. Then the MSM copies that story over and over and it becomes Democrat talking points. Sadly, that is how it works today. You're lucky to get any facts at all from them especially regarding anything related to Trump.

 

[Care4all]

Well, most aren't and, why would you expect a POTUS to appoint all one party affiliated judges? Trump was acting as he should, appointment by merit. I doesn't matter if they disagree on non political issues. You're just used to the tyrannical Democrat grab that happened with Obama and Biden so you think it's normal to make up charges against people for purely political reasons (like they did with Trump) Besides you are a never-Trumper at the very least anyway.

Leo, Trump appointed only right wing judges, and likely even they were not on merit most of the time, especially if in his court district, it was likely for loyalty to him....like Aileen Cannon.

Trump is making some arrogant, lawless decisions,

so evident ...that even his own hand picked judges have no choice but to rule against him.

 

[Leo123]

Leo, Trump appointed only right wing judges, and likely even they were not on merit most of the time, especially if in his court district, it was likely for loyalty to him....like Aileen Cannon.

Trump is making some arrogant, lawless decisions,

so evident ...that even his own hand picked judges have no choice but to rule against him.

You have no proof of any of that. Also, there are many RINOs. You wouldn't know because you obviously read only MSM which is really lefty, Marxist media. luckily today, there are many better sources that are less biased left. You have to look for them. The American media is in the midst of change. They are bleeding viewership by at least half. They are growing desperate and getting more and more radical leftist because that is all the viewership they have. Access diversity in your media choices....Here is a small example if you even have the guts to watch it, there's more than the birth dividend discussion there. You might want to educate yourself as to what most Americans agree on.

 

[Care4all]

You have no proof of any of that. Also, there are many RINOs. You wouldn't know because you obviously read only MSM which is really lefty, Marxist media. luckily today, there are many better sources that are less biased left. You have to look for them. The American media is in the midst of change. They are bleeding viewership by at least half.

On this thread issue....

Trump admin broke a Court Order....broke the law....the Admin says it was a mistake....

The admin needs to correct their mistake, and FOLLOW THE LAW....bring him home and before a court.

If Garcia is as bad as big government says in their smear campaign that we have all seen, they will have no problems with the court ruling in Trump's favor, and if the court does not remove the court protection order for Garcia to ElSalvador, then Trump can arrange to deport him to another country.

Again, Trump needs to follow the law...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump admin broke a Court Order....broke the law....the Admin says it was a mistake....

The admin needs to correct their mistake, and FOLLOW THE LAW....bring him home and before a court.

Regardless of what you think of him, the law was not obeyed.

You can't call it due process when the order was violated. It was a valid deportation order, and it was due process UNTIL it was violated.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And when facts are not on your side, you attack character. I've seen it time and again on this forum.

Abrego is garbage. But that doesn't disabuse him of his rights.

 

[Leo123]

On this thread issue....

Trump admin broke a Court Order....broke the law....the Admin says it was a mistake....

The admin needs to correct their mistake, and FOLLOW THE LAW....bring him home and before a court.

If Garcia is as bad as big government says in their smear campaign that we have all seen, they will have no problems with the court ruling in Trump's favor, and if the court does not remove the court protection order for Garcia to ElSalvador, then Trump can arrange to deport him to another country.

Again, Trump needs to follow the law...

Prove Trump broke any law. You're still shallow.

 

[Leo123]

And when facts are not on your side, you attack character. I've seen it time and again on this forum.

Abrego is garbage. But that doesn't disabuse him of his rights.

His rights were not disabused. Trump cannot kidnap an El Salvadoran Citizen.

 

[TemplarKormac]

His rights were not disabused. Trump cannot kidnap an El Salvadoran Citizen.

The word "disabuse" means to "separate from" to "alienate" or "isolate from," "to abscond."

His rights were violated the moment the order was violated. He was deported to El Salvador despite the order saying he shouldn't have been. What was "due process" was violated.

 

[scruffy]

Oh silly one, Garcia's behavior is not the issue...

Yes, it is. Very much so.

Leftards refuse to prosecute people like this. Just like they refused to prosecute BLM rioters and looters.

Illegal immigrants who kill children get 4 months in jail in lefty land.

Yes, the behavior is VERY MUCH the issue.

Right now, the whole Trump administration are acting as OUTLAWS!

See?

You don't care that Garcia is a member of a terrorist gang, collects drug.money and beats his wife.

You just care that it was President Trump who got him off the streets.

Sorry, but this is exactly the kind of stuff the President was elected to handle. That fucktard Biden let in FIFTEEN MILLION of these assholes with no vetting whatsoever. He had no idea who they are or where to find them.

President Trump is doing exactly what he was elected to do. And he'll continue doing it, and flunky judges aren't going to stop him.

Get used to it. There's a new sheriff in town. Because the last one SUCKED and the People kicked him out. The new guy is getting the job done. He's cleaning up the town. You should be grateful. But instead you're whining. Over a terrorist gang banger who beats his wife. Shame on you.