The Real Story: Kilmar Agrego Garcia

[TemplarKormac]

8 USC 1229 states as follows:

(d) Prompt initiation of removal​

(1) In the case of an alien who is convicted of an offense which makes the alien deportable, the Attorney General shall begin any removal proceeding as expeditiously as possible after the date of the conviction.

It was Obama's job to DEPORT this individual after the very first deportation order, and he failed.

Well that was Obama's fault, wasn't it? Also Biden's too?

But even still, that doesn't change the facts of the matter.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Apparently you don't know the law as well as you think

Eh- yeah, I know more than you think.

I also stick to the Constitution more than most of you do, left or right.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Horseshit.

8 USC 1231 states as follows:

A) In general​

Notwithstanding paragraphs (1) and (2), the Attorney General may not remove an alien to a country if the Attorney General decides that the alien's life or freedom would be threatened in that country because of the alien's race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion

Note the bolded and underlined part. Specifically not some dumbass immigration judge. Who isn't even a real judge, just an administrator.

8 CFR 1208 16C refers to TORTURE. There is zero evidence of torture in any of these cases.

Thanks for playing.

Care to try again?

Sorry, but that has been delegated to the judges. When has the Attorney General ever intervened to withhold removal of an illegal? Not for the better part of 40 years.

You ignore the precept of delegated authority.

In 1983, Attorney General William French Smith established the EOIR, or the Executive Office for Immigration Review, to formalize the authority of judges to review and issue decisions on immigration cases, specifically under regulations 8 C.F.R. § 1208.16(b) and 8 C.F.R. § 1003.1.

About the Office

www.justice.gov

You fought valiantly, but you lose, my friend. Now, I'm going to finish watching the Pope's funeral.

 

[Lesh]

No, that was some dumbass administrative "judge" exceeding the scope of her authority

Bullshit

 

[scruffy]

Sorry, but that has been delegated to the judges. When has the Attorney General ever intervened to withhold removal of an illegal? Not for the better part of 40 years.

You ignore the precept of delegated authority.

In 1983, Attorney General William French Smith established the EOIR, or the Executive Office for Immigration Review, to formalize the authority of judges to review and issue decisions on immigration cases, specifically under regulations 8 C.F.R. § 1208.16(b) and 8 C.F.R. § 1003.1.

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About the Office

www.justice.gov

You fought valiantly, but you lose, my friend. Now, I'm going to finish watching the Pope's funeral.

The point is, administrative judges do no supersede the Attorney General.

I win. I was actually educated in Constitutional law, by one of the best. I never lose.

 

[Lesh]

The point is, administrative judges do no supersede the Attorney General.

I win. I was actually educated in Constitutional law, by one of the best. I never lose.

What the fuck is this new “administrative” judge thing?

It’s not a real thing

 

[Harry Dresden]

What the fuck is this new “administrative” judge thing?

It’s not a real thing

its these guys he means.....

administrative law judge (ALJ)

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Lesh]

its these guys he means.....

administrative law judge (ALJ)

www.law.cornell.edu

Read what that is. It’s not what you claim

Dugan… not an administrative law judge

The judge was granted Garcia protection from deportation to El Salvador was and he operated under the authority of the Attorney General

TRUMP’S Attorney General

 

[Harry Dresden]

Read what that is. It’s not what you claim

Dugan… not an administrative law judge

The judge was granted Garcia protection from deportation to El Salvador was and he operated under the authority of the Attorney General

TRUMP’S Attorney General

i didnt claim nothing im saying i believe these are the type of judges he was talking about...

 

[Dante]

Here are real facts.....When they arrested Garcia he had rolls of cash and drugs. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13. More here:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

"When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with roles of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil."

"Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed."

"He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18."

"Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia’s wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her."

And all of a sudden you people are all for believing everything that comes from feds?

The "History of violence is thin" as Donald Trump himself was accused of worse by his own wife.

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In a legal deposition, under oath Ivana Trump described a sexual assault that she said occurred shortly after her husband’s scalp-reduction surgery. She claimed that Trump pushed her to the floor and pulled out handfuls of her hair. Ivana described what followed as a rape.​

The informant?

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/trumps-claims-on-kilmar-abrego-garcia-largely-rely-on-1-informant/

Myself, I have yet to take a stand on whether the man is a 'gang' member (doesn't look to be one - no arrests), but I do know the Trump Administration admitted they made a mistake

 

[scruffy]

What the fuck is this new “administrative” judge thing?

It’s not a real thing

Sorry, I don't have time to educate you.