The Social Security ‘waste’ and ‘fraud’ lie.

[Frankenstein]

One person getting social security that shouldn't is wrong.

Clayton parks in handicapped spots, and skips into the store! Of course mentally handicapped counts I guess

 

[Rawley]

Checking it out is fine, just come back with some REAL results.

Ain't no way there are 6 Million 112+ year olds receiving SS benefits.
That would be $72 Billion in payouts each year.
Did Musk find $72 Billion, and if NOT, then he's lying to you, if true, then simply show the Documentation.

Do you believe this ^^^^ because that IS what DOGE is claiming.

No it's not

 

[Winco]

No it's not

Read below, and I'm prepared for you to call this FACTUAL information as FAKE NEWS.
It's all you clown have......cries of FAKE NEWS and STOLLEN(sic) Elections.

what is doge claiming about savings, waste, and fraud. And can you update the weekly claims made by doge.

ChatGPT said:​

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk under the Trump administration, has made several claims regarding savings, waste, and fraud in federal spending. Here's an overview of their assertions and the scrutiny they've faced:Wikipedia+1San Francisco Chronicle+1

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Claimed Savings​

As of March 24, 2025, DOGE reported saving $130 billion by canceling over 2,300 federal contracts across 39 agencies.However, independent analyses have raised concerns about the accuracy of these figures. For instance, a Wall Street Journal investigation found that DOGE's reported savings included contracts counted multiple times, contracts already paid out, and projections based on contract limits rather than actual spending. The Associated Press further noted that nearly 40% of the terminated contracts would not result in any real savings. Wikipedia

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Fraud Allegations​

DOGE has highlighted instances of alleged fraud, such as unemployment benefits paid to deceased individuals or those not yet born. These claims have been amplified in right-wing media and supported by Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer. However, experts point out that these issues were already identified and addressed during the Biden administration between 2020 and 2022. The Department of Labor's Office of Inspector General had documented these cases, which were often due to identity theft protections in state systems. Critics argue that DOGE is repackaging old data without conducting thorough audits. The Guardian

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Weekly Updates​

While DOGE regularly releases updates on contract terminations and alleged savings, these reports have been met with skepticism. For example, on February 17, 2025, DOGE announced the termination of 1,127 federal contracts, but only 300 had been formally terminated at that time. Subsequent releases increased the total to nearly 2,300 contracts, yet analyses revealed that a significant portion of these terminations would not yield actual savings. Wikipedia

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Summary​

DOGE's claims of substantial savings and fraud prevention have been challenged by independent analyses and experts. Many of the purported savings are based on questionable accounting practices, and the highlighted fraud cases were previously identified and addressed. As such, while DOGE continues to promote its efforts, the validity and impact of its claims remain subjects of debate.

 

[MarcATL]

OK, so according to the dems now SS is totally fine, and we have nothing to worry about.....Great, one less thing to worry about.....Just keep the checks coming and STFU.

What's the problem w/social security now as you understand it?

 

[Winco]

No it's not

Rawley Social Security

ChatGPT said:​

Yes, Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump have claimed that millions of individuals over the age of 100 are receiving Social Security benefits, suggesting significant fraud within the system. Musk, leading the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even joked about "vampires" collecting benefits, referencing entries for individuals purportedly aged 150 or older ABC News.

However, these claims have been widely debunked. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has clarified that while their records include individuals over 100 years old without recorded dates of death, this does not mean these individuals are receiving benefits. Acting SSA Commissioner Lee Dudek explained that these entries often result from outdated data systems and missing death information, not active benefit payments CBS News.

Furthermore, a 2024 report from the SSA's Office of Inspector General found that less than 1% of the $8.6 trillion in benefits paid from 2015 to 2022 were improper payments, with most overpayments made to living individuals WPLG.

In summary, while DOGE has highlighted concerns about individuals over 100 receiving Social Security benefits, evidence indicates that these claims are exaggerated and not supported by SSA data.

 

[Rawley]

Read below, and I'm prepared for you to call this FACTUAL information as FAKE NEWS.
It's all you clown have......cries of FAKE NEWS and STOLLEN(sic) Elections.

what is doge claiming about savings, waste, and fraud. And can you update the weekly claims made by doge.

ChatGPT said:​

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk under the Trump administration, has made several claims regarding savings, waste, and fraud in federal spending. Here's an overview of their assertions and the scrutiny they've faced:Wikipedia+1San Francisco Chronicle+1

---

Claimed Savings​

As of March 24, 2025, DOGE reported saving $130 billion by canceling over 2,300 federal contracts across 39 agencies.However, independent analyses have raised concerns about the accuracy of these figures. For instance, a Wall Street Journal investigation found that DOGE's reported savings included contracts counted multiple times, contracts already paid out, and projections based on contract limits rather than actual spending. The Associated Press further noted that nearly 40% of the terminated contracts would not result in any real savings. Wikipedia

---

Fraud Allegations​

DOGE has highlighted instances of alleged fraud, such as unemployment benefits paid to deceased individuals or those not yet born. These claims have been amplified in right-wing media and supported by Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer. However, experts point out that these issues were already identified and addressed during the Biden administration between 2020 and 2022. The Department of Labor's Office of Inspector General had documented these cases, which were often due to identity theft protections in state systems. Critics argue that DOGE is repackaging old data without conducting thorough audits. The Guardian

---

Weekly Updates​

While DOGE regularly releases updates on contract terminations and alleged savings, these reports have been met with skepticism. For example, on February 17, 2025, DOGE announced the termination of 1,127 federal contracts, but only 300 had been formally terminated at that time. Subsequent releases increased the total to nearly 2,300 contracts, yet analyses revealed that a significant portion of these terminations would not yield actual savings. Wikipedia

---

Summary​

DOGE's claims of substantial savings and fraud prevention have been challenged by independent analyses and experts. Many of the purported savings are based on questionable accounting practices, and the highlighted fraud cases were previously identified and addressed. As such, while DOGE continues to promote its efforts, the validity and impact of its claims remain subjects of debate.

And not one quote from Musk supporting your lie. Color me not surprised.

 

[Rawley]

Rawley Social Security

ChatGPT said:​

Yes, Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump have claimed that millions of individuals over the age of 100 are receiving Social Security benefits, suggesting significant fraud within the system. Musk, leading the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even joked about "vampires" collecting benefits, referencing entries for individuals purportedly aged 150 or older ABC News.

However, these claims have been widely debunked. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has clarified that while their records include individuals over 100 years old without recorded dates of death, this does not mean these individuals are receiving benefits. Acting SSA Commissioner Lee Dudek explained that these entries often result from outdated data systems and missing death information, not active benefit payments CBS News.

Furthermore, a 2024 report from the SSA's Office of Inspector General found that less than 1% of the $8.6 trillion in benefits paid from 2015 to 2022 were improper payments, with most overpayments made to living individuals WPLG.

In summary, while DOGE has highlighted concerns about individuals over 100 receiving Social Security benefits, evidence indicates that these claims are exaggerated and not supported by SSA data.

QED

 

[TimFitz]

And not one quote from Musk supporting your lie. Color me not surprised.

So, you’re retreating to that excuse.

No quotes?

How about the video!

 

[Rawley]

So, you’re retreating to that excuse.

No quotes?

How about the video!

Did you even watch your video? He didn't say the 150 y/o in the SS database was receiving benefits, let alone 6 million over 112 receiving benefits as you loon friend claimed

I don't know why you twits have this pathological need to lie.

 

[TimFitz]

Did you even watch your video? He didn't say the 150 y/o in the SS database was receiving benefits, let alone 6 million over 112 receiving benefits as you loon friend claimed

I don't know why you twits have this pathological need to lie.

And yet this rant (aand others) were promoted to insinuate widespread fraud and graft.

And Trumpsters raced to jump to that conclusion.

Of course it was not evidence. Musk was doing sensationalism, a sure fire willer with the know nothing Trump crowd.

Of course, there was no follow up, and no evidence presented. That’s not how baloney peddlers work. They,ove on to the next ridiculous claim.

Trump and Musk both work that way. Flood the zone with cofeve.

 

[Rawley]

And yet this rant (aand others) were promoted to insinuate widespread fraud and graft.

And Trumpsters raced to jump to that conclusion.

Of course it was not evidence. Musk was doing sensationalism, a sure fire willer with the know nothing Trump crowd.

Of course, there was no follow up, and no evidence presented. That’s not how baloney peddlers work. They,ove on to the next ridiculous claim.

Trump and Musk both work that way. Flood the zone with cofeve.

You don't have questions about the competence of the system that has over six million active accounts of people that are over 112 years old? No concerns? Really?

 

[No Way]

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“There is no solid evidence that large sums are being paid to people who do not deserve them,”

That is a value statement. Such statements do not lend themselves to true or false. Therefore, not a lie. Merely opinion.

 

[dudmuck]

Don't you want to stop waste and fraud?... that is crazy man and you are a very small number on that issue and the border issue... so keep losing its good for America...

 

[Rambunctious]

They were smart in the way they handed out tax dollars... everything was done by lawyers and NGO's....
There have been firings and I'm sure there will be more... and at some point someone will face prosecution....

 

[sartre play]

‘Elon Musk’s promise is based on the idea of eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse within the Social Security Administration (SSA). However, according to Chris Orestis, retirement expert and president of Retirement Genius, that premise is based on a misperception.

“There is no solid evidence that large sums are being paid to people who do not deserve them,”

he said, in line with reports published by media such as The New York Times and Associated Press.

But even in the hypothetical case that ‘extra’ funds were found, that would not allow for an automatic increase in benefits. As Orestis explained, the only mechanism for increasing Social Security payments is the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA), which is calculated each year according to inflation levels. In other words, no matter how much money is “saved,” checks cannot go up unless the law allows it.

How Social Security benefits are calculated? These do not depend on the size of the trust fund or the number of employees in the SSA, but on the income that each person has had throughout their working life. To change that formula, Congress would have to pass a law, which is not on the table at the moment.’

MSN

The premise of ‘waste’ and ‘fraud’ is based not only on a misperception, it’s based on ignorance, dishonesty, and lies.

There is some waste & dishonesty in EVERY government program.
SOCIAL SECURITY The program that has changed/ helped the lives of Every elderly person for almost 70 years.
Tread lightly.

 

[sartre play]

WTF are you yammering about now?

SS in NOT fine, and the CAP needs to be increased.
People making $400,000 should still be paying into SS.
Why the CAP?

I suppose you believe we should stop taxing gas after 10 gallons.....right?
The 'I hate the Government Thinking.'

Change it to 500,000, then increase the cap just enough to insure that it stays solvent.
So that people who have worked physical labor most of their life's can retire at 65 if needed.

 

[sartre play]

The issue isn’t govt spending. It’s govt waste, fraud and abuse.

WHAT????

 

[Dragonlady]

If ever there was a STOOGE FOR THE STATE, it's CCJ.

You’re in no position to call anyone else a “stooge” here, Moe.

 

[MarathonMike]

You’re in no position to call anyone else a “stooge” here, Moe.

I'm in prime position to call out stooges including you Curly.