The time has come - those who want to defund law enforcement need to be put into a national data base.

[LordBrownTrout]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

Fascism is where the right is right now. Look at what trump is doing that you all support.

Ironically, the fascists are blm, liberals, and antifa. We can see it by their actions.

We're watching trump dispatch secret police on American citizens. That's fascism.

Except, he's not doing that. What we're really watching is liberal suppression happening all over america and a complicit party. That's fascism and suppression. It will not end well. Now, bend your knee to your god, blm.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

For most of the last 40 years those with means have been taking more and more creating a nation where most of the people have become those with needs. This is not sustainable.

Your problem is your victim mentality. We live in a country where you can achieve whatever you define as success as long as you're willing to pay the price.

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

I have many black friends who laugh at your victimhood.

No you don't. My victimhood does not exist. But your attempt to gaslight is noted.

You just complained about it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

No Community will ever "Defund" the Police Department. They may do a reorganization or cut money spent on Military Equipment but never "Defund" the Police Departments. And after seeing some of the equipment and lack of training, a little rearranging of funds is probably in order.

Can you not read either? Quit lying. We can see right through it.

Minneapolis Council Moves To Defund Police, Establish 'Holistic' Public Safety Force

Under the plan, the existing police would be largely replaced with "a department of community safety and violence prevention," which will prioritize a "public health-oriented approach."

www.npr.org

 

[LeftofLeft]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

Great. Send the social worker to your house when there is an intruder. Send the psychologist to your neighborhood when there is a domestic dispute. Drug deals going down on the street corner? Neighborhood convenience stores getting robbed? Send in a community organizer.

This should address your feelings of safety around the police.

 

[irosie91]

I am willing to "know" WHAT DOES 'defunding the police' MEAN?

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

My God you are ignorant and indoctrinated. Guess who built the first roads and infrastructure in New York's state capital...yes private citizens not government. Many of those same roads are still in use today. I'm surprised some of you on the left can take a dump without government assistance.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

My God you are ignorant and indoctrinated. Guess who built the first roads and infrastructure in New York's state capital...yes private citizens not government. Many of those same roads are still in use today. I'm surprised some of you on the left can take a dump without government assistance.

Gas lighting is popular with you Party of the Rumpsters.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Before I start, on the flip I have no problem being put into a national data base for my support of law enforcement personal, the brave men and women who risk their lives to enforce the law to provide a safe and civil society for Americans; but also the same people who save lives by performing CPR before medical emergency personal can arrive, the brave law enforcement officers who rush into buildings on fire to save lives before the fire department can arrive - no knock of medical personal or the fire department, but sometimes law enforcement officers are able to respond before they can. So if supporting these brave men and women lands me in a national data base, fine, I am proud and committed to my beliefs.

Now, for those who want to defund law enforcement, not only do I fully support them being put into a national data base, I also support the use of facial recognition to identify them and automatically put them into a national data base - this can be achieved when these worthless piles of shit are protesting, err...let's be real - terrorizing in the streets. For every action, there is a reaction, and with that in mind, if one wants to defund law enforcement, their being in a national date base would help compensate for the reduced funding of law enforcement. By their being in the national data base, if they call 911 in need of police assistance, they would be red flagged and law enforcement would ordered not to respond to their call. If they want to defund law enforcement, then they have no right to being protected by law enforcement. If these piles of shit end up dying because of it, fuck them, they made their choice, and choices have consequences; again fuck them.

There is an old saying, "No police, Know anarchy". Anarchy is not a way of life the majority of civilized Americans want to live. Anarchy is a style of life that only the radical left-wing communists want to live, and this should come as no surprise since the vast majority of socialists, marxists and communists have yet to evolve past neanderthal man on the evolutionary scale.

You never heard of freedom of speech?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

Not clear to anyone what that means.. Because if you ASK BLM or "the Squad" -- it's closer to deactiving and "reimagining" the WHOLE deal...

That's Disney's job to "Imagine" stuff.. Not a real clear message.. But here's one..

Defund The Police

We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure Black people not only survive, but thrive.

defundthepolice.org

“
Abolishing the police does
not mean the abolishing of
community safety.

ABOLISHING is what they SEEM to mean.. Same story with AOC and the "squad".. It's a Marxist remake of the MEANING of public safety without the EFFORT TO DESIGN an alternative..

Really juvenile horseshit...

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Tell me what's conspiratorial when they fucking admit to it, retard.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological f…

nypost.com

At least she's honest about here delusions. To most of us, it's delusional. But to her, she's replacing a more social society (keeping Capitalism) with being a Marxist. I went to a few Colleges and University and I didn't see an corriculum that was called "Marxist 101". Here is an interview with her in it. Just because she's in it doesn't make it Marxist. It's like Q'Anon President that's in office right now. I have two vids that apply here.



And Rump is part of the Q'Anon movement.



I don't put much water either her or Rump. Both are fruitcakes. But Black Lives Matter does have some good coming out of it. Outside of Q'Anon, Black Lives Matter in the local areas are working to make things better, safer and more. She is a fruitcake.

The only time you ever went to college was to see a basketball or football game.

 

[irosie91]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

My God you are ignorant and indoctrinated. Guess who built the first roads and infrastructure in New York's state capital...yes private citizens not government. Many of those same roads are still in use today. I'm surprised some of you on the left can take a dump without government assistance.

New York's state capital was backwoods back then. You made no point at all----you envision private citizens TODAY doing the roads and building the schools and quaint little white painted churches ----well maybe

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

My God you are ignorant and indoctrinated. Guess who built the first roads and infrastructure in New York's state capital...yes private citizens not government. Many of those same roads are still in use today. I'm surprised some of you on the left can take a dump without government assistance.

Gas lighting is popular with you Party of the Rumpsters.

Lighting farts is popular with you libtards!

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

Before I start, on the flip I have no problem being put into a national data base for my support of law enforcement personal, the brave men and women who risk their lives to enforce the law to provide a safe and civil society for Americans; but also the same people who save lives by performing CPR before medical emergency personal can arrive, the brave law enforcement officers who rush into buildings on fire to save lives before the fire department can arrive - no knock of medical personal or the fire department, but sometimes law enforcement officers are able to respond before they can. So if supporting these brave men and women lands me in a national data base, fine, I am proud and committed to my beliefs.

Now, for those who want to defund law enforcement, not only do I fully support them being put into a national data base, I also support the use of facial recognition to identify them and automatically put them into a national data base - this can be achieved when these worthless piles of shit are protesting, err...let's be real - terrorizing in the streets. For every action, there is a reaction, and with that in mind, if one wants to defund law enforcement, their being in a national date base would help compensate for the reduced funding of law enforcement. By their being in the national data base, if they call 911 in need of police assistance, they would be red flagged and law enforcement would ordered not to respond to their call. If they want to defund law enforcement, then they have no right to being protected by law enforcement. If these piles of shit end up dying because of it, fuck them, they made their choice, and choices have consequences; again fuck them.

There is an old saying, "No police, Know anarchy". Anarchy is not a way of life the majority of civilized Americans want to live. Anarchy is a style of life that only the radical left-wing communists want to live, and this should come as no surprise since the vast majority of socialists, marxists and communists have yet to evolve past neanderthal man on the evolutionary scale.

So much for Freedom, there cupcake. I happen to be in a national database as are all people that served in the Military. There are a lot of drawbacks. If a Civilian were to punch someone, they probably get fined and that's the end of it. But if I do the same thing, there is a more than even chance I will get about 6 months behind bars. And it might be upgraded to a Felony. When dealing with the Public with a violent potential, people like me have to remember to use only "Justifiable Force". It gets real complicated real fast.

No, I don't want every citizen to be in a National Database outside of Drivers Licenses. Privacy means freedom. Take it from those of us that will never enjoy total freedom.

Do you want a national gun registry? Is that Ok?

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

My God you are ignorant and indoctrinated. Guess who built the first roads and infrastructure in New York's state capital...yes private citizens not government. Many of those same roads are still in use today. I'm surprised some of you on the left can take a dump without government assistance.

New York's state capital was backwoods back then. You made no point at all----you envision private citizens TODAY doing the roads and building the schools and quaint little white painted churches ----well maybe

One of us lived in the NY state capital for a decade and know's it's history, hint its not you.

 

[Orangecat]

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

You're the ignorant idiot who assumes my race and success level when you haven't a clue about either. You pretty much suck at debate if your only tool is creating straw men. Think more, post less.

 

[Orangecat]

Fascism is where the right is right now.

You're like a walking bumper sticker, spewing out the lies you've been spoon-fed like a typical useful idiot.

 

[IM2]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

Fascism is where the right is right now. Look at what trump is doing that you all support.

Ironically, the fascists are blm, liberals, and antifa. We can see it by their actions.

We're watching trump dispatch secret police on American citizens. That's fascism.

Except, he's not doing that. What we're really watching is liberal suppression happening all over america and a complicit party. That's fascism and suppression. It will not end well. Now, bend your knee to your god, blm.

We are watching a president dispatch secret police on American citizens. That's fascism. Meanwhile he tells a bunch of lies and you believe them because you're a fascist yourself. What we have seen is a party that is complicit with a fascist. It is why people are on the streets. You bend your knees to trump. I bow or bend to no one.

 

[IM2]

Fascism is where the right is right now.

You're like a walking bumper sticker, spewing out the lies you've been spoon-fed like a typical useful idiot.

Except I'm the one telling the truth.

 

[IM2]

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

You're the ignorant idiot who assumes my race and success level when you haven't a clue about either. You pretty much suck at debate if your only tool is creating straw men. Think more, post less.

You're the idiot that denies 244 years where 190 of those years laws were explicitly made to deny all but white men and 54 years where white men have covertly subverted laws in order to maintain advantage. Oh I'm not creating a straw man because I have shown plenty of evidence, but you show that you have lived in a delusion.

 

[dudmuck]

Before I start, on the flip I have no problem being put into a national data base for my support of law enforcement personal, the brave men and women who risk their lives to enforce the law to provide a safe and civil society for Americans; but also the same people who save lives by performing CPR before medical emergency personal can arrive, the brave law enforcement officers who rush into buildings on fire to save lives before the fire department can arrive - no knock of medical personal or the fire department, but sometimes law enforcement officers are able to respond before they can. So if supporting these brave men and women lands me in a national data base, fine, I am proud and committed to my beliefs.

Now, for those who want to defund law enforcement, not only do I fully support them being put into a national data base, I also support the use of facial recognition to identify them and automatically put them into a national data base - this can be achieved when these worthless piles of shit are protesting, err...let's be real - terrorizing in the streets. For every action, there is a reaction, and with that in mind, if one wants to defund law enforcement, their being in a national date base would help compensate for the reduced funding of law enforcement. By their being in the national data base, if they call 911 in need of police assistance, they would be red flagged and law enforcement would ordered not to respond to their call. If they want to defund law enforcement, then they have no right to being protected by law enforcement. If these piles of shit end up dying because of it, fuck them, they made their choice, and choices have consequences; again fuck them.

There is an old saying, "No police, Know anarchy". Anarchy is not a way of life the majority of civilized Americans want to live. Anarchy is a style of life that only the radical left-wing communists want to live, and this should come as no surprise since the vast majority of socialists, marxists and communists have yet to evolve past neanderthal man on the evolutionary scale.

Nothing has insulted the law more than Flynn's case being dropped, or Roger Stone's sentence commuted.

 

[IM2]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

Great. Send the social worker to your house when there is an intruder. Send the psychologist to your neighborhood when there is a domestic dispute. Drug deals going down on the street corner? Neighborhood convenience stores getting robbed? Send in a community organizer.

This should address your feelings of safety around the police.

Now you have just shown everybody that you're a dumb ass. The social worker won't be dispatched on a home invasion, and in cases of obvious crime and community danger they will be dispatched. Police really never do anything during domestic disturbances. The police have said for years how they are not equipped to do a lot of things they are called for.

Now as you are white and don't have to face the possibility of being pulled over for nothing then ending up have Al Sharpton doing your eulogy and I do, you can just shove your white Pollyanna attitude up your ass.