The time has come - those who want to defund law enforcement need to be put into a national data base.

[IM2]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

No Community will ever "Defund" the Police Department. They may do a reorganization or cut money spent on Military Equipment but never "Defund" the Police Departments. And after seeing some of the equipment and lack of training, a little rearranging of funds is probably in order.

I totally agree.

 

[irosie91]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

I feel safer because of police. I have worked in situations with people who do not. Long ago I
worked in a little summer student days internship in a public health facility in a CITY. There just HAPPENED to be a CLAP epidemic going on.
"CLAP" is common parlance for gonorrhea.----how is gonorrhea passed around? Thru asymptomatic females who SCREW LOTS. The boys who contract it ARE symptomatic. They get an itchy, greenish discharge from YOU KNOW WHERE. They do not walk to the Doc---they RUN. The sickness is "REPORTABLE" <<< that means the doc must report each case and then the public health guys jump in and demand a list of "CONTACTS". The contacts who are REPETITIVE on the lists are often "ladies of the night" They have to be ----well --sorta arrested in order to get them to the medical clinic----and the pimps go nuts----IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Way back then----this program was called "RACIST"

 

[Orangecat]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

No, let's not. A degree of socialism is necessary for an orderly society. We just disagree about said degree. I want less, you want more.

 

[Orangecat]

For most of the last 40 years those with means have been taking more and more creating a nation where most of the people have become those with needs. This is not sustainable.

Your problem is your victim mentality. We live in a country where you can achieve whatever you define as success as long as you're willing to pay the price.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

No, let's not. A degree of socialism is necessary for an orderly society. We just disagree about said degree. I want less, you want more.

I want less in some areas while more in others. And thank you for pretty much saying what I am saying. Most in here don't understand because some mouthpiece is telling them what to think.

 

[JWBooth]

National databases, now is the time for their elimination

 

[Daryl Hunt]

National databases, now is the time for their elimination

It depends on the purpose of the database. If you are talking about the general Public automatically be placed in a central DB where it can be used for nefarious purposes then you are right.

 

[irosie91]

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

No, let's not. A degree of socialism is necessary for an orderly society. We just disagree about said degree. I want less, you want more.

so true CATS. ALL societies include "socialism" Taxes that maintain sewers is SOCIALISM. The issue is HOW MUCH ---and .....who

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

 

[IM2]

For most of the last 40 years those with means have been taking more and more creating a nation where most of the people have become those with needs. This is not sustainable.

Your problem is your victim mentality. We live in a country where you can achieve whatever you define as success as long as you're willing to pay the price.

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

 

[IM2]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

Fascism is where the right is right now. Look at what trump is doing that you all support.

 

[IM2]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

I feel safer because of police. I have worked in situations with people who do not. Long ago I
worked in a little summer student days internship in a public health facility in a CITY. There just HAPPENED to be a CLAP epidemic going on.
"CLAP" is common parlance for gonorrhea.----how is gonorrhea passed around? Thru asymptomatic females who SCREW LOTS. The boys who contract it ARE symptomatic. They get an itchy, greenish discharge from YOU KNOW WHERE. They do not walk to the Doc---they RUN. The sickness is "REPORTABLE" <<< that means the doc must report each case and then the public health guys jump in and demand a list of "CONTACTS". The contacts who are REPETITIVE on the lists are often "ladies of the night" They have to be ----well --sorta arrested in order to get them to the medical clinic----and the pimps go nuts----IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Way back then----this program was called "RACIST"

Good for you. I don't.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

Not clear to anyone what that means.. Because if you ASK BLM or "the Squad" -- it's closer to deactiving and "reimagining" the WHOLE deal...

That's Disney's job to "Imagine" stuff.. Not a real clear message.. But here's one..

Defund The Police

We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure Black people not only survive, but thrive.

defundthepolice.org

“
Abolishing the police does
not mean the abolishing of
community safety.

ABOLISHING is what they SEEM to mean.. Same story with AOC and the "squad".. It's a Marxist remake of the MEANING of public safety without the EFFORT TO DESIGN an alternative..

Really juvenile horseshit...

It's clear. Too many conservatives are too busy calling everybody marxist but the true marxist, trump to figure it out.

BLM co-founders have LITERALLY ADMITTED to being Marxists. Shut the fuck up you hack.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological f…

nypost.com

I don't give a fuck. I'm black and live in a fascist police state. The system has to change.

Actually you're Black and you ARE the fascist.

 

[irosie91]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

I feel safer because of police. I have worked in situations with people who do not. Long ago I
worked in a little summer student days internship in a public health facility in a CITY. There just HAPPENED to be a CLAP epidemic going on.
"CLAP" is common parlance for gonorrhea.----how is gonorrhea passed around? Thru asymptomatic females who SCREW LOTS. The boys who contract it ARE symptomatic. They get an itchy, greenish discharge from YOU KNOW WHERE. They do not walk to the Doc---they RUN. The sickness is "REPORTABLE" <<< that means the doc must report each case and then the public health guys jump in and demand a list of "CONTACTS". The contacts who are REPETITIVE on the lists are often "ladies of the night" They have to be ----well --sorta arrested in order to get them to the medical clinic----and the pimps go nuts----IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Way back then----this program was called "RACIST"

Good for you. I don't.

to your detriment

 

[IM2]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

Not clear to anyone what that means.. Because if you ASK BLM or "the Squad" -- it's closer to deactiving and "reimagining" the WHOLE deal...

That's Disney's job to "Imagine" stuff.. Not a real clear message.. But here's one..

Defund The Police

We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure Black people not only survive, but thrive.

defundthepolice.org

“
Abolishing the police does
not mean the abolishing of
community safety.

ABOLISHING is what they SEEM to mean.. Same story with AOC and the "squad".. It's a Marxist remake of the MEANING of public safety without the EFFORT TO DESIGN an alternative..

Really juvenile horseshit...

It's clear. Too many conservatives are too busy calling everybody marxist but the true marxist, trump to figure it out.

BLM co-founders have LITERALLY ADMITTED to being Marxists. Shut the fuck up you hack.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological f…

nypost.com

I don't give a fuck. I'm black and live in a fascist police state. The system has to change.

Actually you're Black and you ARE the fascist.

Wrong.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

Fascism is where the right is right now. Look at what trump is doing that you all support.

Ironically, the fascists are blm, liberals, and antifa. We can see it by their actions.

 

[IM2]

Maybe learn what is meant by defund the police. Because some of us are not being made to feel safer because of police.

I feel safer because of police. I have worked in situations with people who do not. Long ago I
worked in a little summer student days internship in a public health facility in a CITY. There just HAPPENED to be a CLAP epidemic going on.
"CLAP" is common parlance for gonorrhea.----how is gonorrhea passed around? Thru asymptomatic females who SCREW LOTS. The boys who contract it ARE symptomatic. They get an itchy, greenish discharge from YOU KNOW WHERE. They do not walk to the Doc---they RUN. The sickness is "REPORTABLE" <<< that means the doc must report each case and then the public health guys jump in and demand a list of "CONTACTS". The contacts who are REPETITIVE on the lists are often "ladies of the night" They have to be ----well --sorta arrested in order to get them to the medical clinic----and the pimps go nuts----IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Way back then----this program was called "RACIST"

Good for you. I don't.

to your detriment

No, it's not.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

For most of the last 40 years those with means have been taking more and more creating a nation where most of the people have become those with needs. This is not sustainable.

Your problem is your victim mentality. We live in a country where you can achieve whatever you define as success as long as you're willing to pay the price.

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

I have many black friends who laugh at your victimhood.

 

[IM2]

Stop this nonsense. There are NO Marxists or Communists. You are a subscriber to the Q'Anon Conspiracy theory.

Many on the left and even some on the right support government redistribution of wealth from those with means to those with needs. That is one of the central tenets of marxism. Liberty doesn't die by a mortal blow, it dies of a thousand cuts in the name of security and compassion. The road to hell, as they say.

Okay, let's envision a world with no Social Programs.

1. You have no paved roads
2. You have no electricity outside of solar or wind that YOU installed yourself
3. No Gas for your car
4. No Hospitals
All of the above and more are social programs. More on that later.

Now, let's envision a world run by Capitalists without Social Programs

1. The ONLY paved roads will be those roads that benefit the Corporation.
2. Talk about wars. The Corporations will tear each other apart until there is on one left in control.
3. I think an old term of "Company Store" comes to mind. You can only purchase goods and services from the Company Store. There will be NO competition allowed.
4. NO taxes to anyone other than the Corporation.

Neither Capitalism nor Socialism can govern a nation. They are both Economic Systems. And in order to have a viable nation, you need both. Capitalism makes the money while Socialism makes for a happier, warmer, cooler, better dressed, more mobile working force. But you are going to need a Government to hold it all together. from Dictatorships to Oligarchies to Fascism to Federal Republics to Social Democracies. Like no country can be all Capitalism, no country can exist that is all Socialist. One makes the money while the other spends the money. And both keep each other in check.

So you want a world with no Socialism? Look around you. Much of your life has some type of Socialism. But the same goes for capitalist.

You keep slamming about Communism, Marxism and Pure socialism as a Government. Communism and Marxism is based on getting rid of the classes and no one owning anything. Both envision a world where everyone makes the same pay, lives exactly the same way and you own nothing because a central Government owns it all. The problem with that is, it won't last more than about 10 minutes. What usually happens is, some Strongman comes along and tells you that under him, things will be better and you cling to him until you find out that he's only after the Power and screw everyone else. Or if you are smart, you will move to a real live Governing System like most of the Western World has done where you mix in Capitalism and Socialism to grow exponentially.

Communism is where liberals want to go. We can see by their actions.

Fascism is where the right is right now. Look at what trump is doing that you all support.

Ironically, the fascists are blm, liberals, and antifa. We can see it by their actions.

We're watching trump dispatch secret police on American citizens. That's fascism.

 

[IM2]

For most of the last 40 years those with means have been taking more and more creating a nation where most of the people have become those with needs. This is not sustainable.

Your problem is your victim mentality. We live in a country where you can achieve whatever you define as success as long as you're willing to pay the price.

Here we go again with some white idiot talking about a victim mentality. Turn black and live a decade then come talk to me. I've done better than you have and did so with battling the racism. You'd be sitting in a mental facility if you faced what the average black person does.

I have many black friends who laugh at your victimhood.

No you don't. My victimhood does not exist. But your attempt to gaslight is noted.