Daryl Hunt
Your Worst Nightmare
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- #161
In all fairness to Whilehall, the bay of Tonkin was a lie. That was what LBJ used as an excuse to launch the Great Police Action of Vietnam.
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Lets not forget the over 1 million mostly innocent hillbilly Vietnamese like the ones " "Maverick' McCain bombed at a light bulb factory when they shot the arrogant fucker down and stuck his dumb ass in a dog kennel.A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
Yeah water , aspirinin and other such "weapons" too. You're a true Amerttykan.Lets not forget the over 1 million mostly innocent hillbilly Vietnamese like the ones " "Maverick' McCain bombed at a light bulb factory when they shot the arrogant fucker down and stuck his dumb ass in a dog kennel.A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
Welcome to War, Sonny. The NVA used lightbulbs.
Yeah water , aspirinin and other such "weapons" too. You're a true Amerttykan.Lets not forget the over 1 million mostly innocent hillbilly Vietnamese like the ones " "Maverick' McCain bombed at a light bulb factory when they shot the arrogant fucker down and stuck his dumb ass in a dog kennel.A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
Welcome to War, Sonny. The NVA used lightbulbs.
he got us out of itYou can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
so we go in and invade NV....this takes MASSIVE troops/$$$$$/time/logistics [ which we were NOT going to do ]the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
no one attacked the US/etcthe war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
so we go in and invade NV....this takes MASSIVE troops/$$$$$/time/logistics [ which we were NOT going to do ]the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
then we do a regime change like in Iraq/Afghanistan------then what???!!!
no one attacked the US/etcthe war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
we were not going to win
popular opinion was against it
was Germany even worth it?so we go in and invade NV....this takes MASSIVE troops/$$$$$/time/logistics [ which we were NOT going to do ]the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
then we do a regime change like in Iraq/Afghanistan------then what???!!!
I'm not saying you should do any of those things. What I'm saying is be prepared to pay the cost before invading another country.
Sometimes, like with Germany, it's worth it, but most times it is not.
not easily at all!!!!!!!no one attacked the US/etcthe war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
we were not going to win
popular opinion was against it
Popular opinion?
I think you are referring to American popular opinion, when in reality they should have been focused on the popular opinion of the Vietnamese whose country was devastated by American troops who were largely unable to tell the difference between friend or foe.
For example, had Hitler invaded Russia with the goal of freeing the people he would have easily routed the oppressive Stalin.
Detroit was destroyed by capitalists who used it up and abandoned it
was Germany even worth it?so we go in and invade NV....this takes MASSIVE troops/$$$$$/time/logistics [ which we were NOT going to do ]the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
then we do a regime change like in Iraq/Afghanistan------then what???!!!
I'm not saying you should do any of those things. What I'm saying is be prepared to pay the cost before invading another country.
Sometimes, like with Germany, it's worth it, but most times it is not.
it was not a global economy like today
Germany could not have hurt us
they had, at best, their hands full with Russia
....there a very few examples [ if any ] post 1900 of countries invading another and completely taking it over/total victoryno one attacked the US/etcthe war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
we were not going to win
popular opinion was against it
Popular opinion?
I think you are referring to American popular opinion, when in reality they should have been focused on the popular opinion of the Vietnamese whose country was devastated by American troops who were largely unable to tell the difference between friend or foe.
For example, had Hitler invaded Russia with the goal of liberating the people instead of conquering them becaise he viewed them as inferior, he would have easily routed the oppressive Stalin.
my father fought in Koreawas Germany even worth it?so we go in and invade NV....this takes MASSIVE troops/$$$$$/time/logistics [ which we were NOT going to do ]the war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
then we do a regime change like in Iraq/Afghanistan------then what???!!!
I'm not saying you should do any of those things. What I'm saying is be prepared to pay the cost before invading another country.
Sometimes, like with Germany, it's worth it, but most times it is not.
it was not a global economy like today
Germany could not have hurt us
they had, at best, their hands full with Russia
That is for you to decide.
Were they a threat to world wide freedom?
Was stopping the Holocaust worth it?
See, these are all questions you can debate all day.
Another question I have, was Korea worth it? Here we have US troops still over there after how many decades as the US is in the middle of a nuclear confrontation?
Then I see pictures of Korea at night, with half lit up and the upper half dark as night.
For those people in the South, the answer is clear, it was worth it, but from a US perspective, the answer might be different.
....there a very few examples [ if any ] post 1900 of countries invading another and completely taking it over/total victoryno one attacked the US/etcthe war was virtually unwinnable
the NVA/VC did not even have to fight
Oh, it was winnable all right. The only question becomes, are you willing to pay the price?
Largely, most wars the US starts the answer is no. They just want to go in and create a regime change and declare victory, while ISIS takes over in the power vacuum.
Anyone who wants to start a war should know this, in Nazi Germany after the US took over there were insurgencies for over a decade, and that is without any hostile foreign powers that bordered Germany aiding and arming the Nazi attackers.
we were not going to win
popular opinion was against it
Popular opinion?
I think you are referring to American popular opinion, when in reality they should have been focused on the popular opinion of the Vietnamese whose country was devastated by American troops who were largely unable to tell the difference between friend or foe.
For example, had Hitler invaded Russia with the goal of liberating the people instead of conquering them becaise he viewed them as inferior, he would have easily routed the oppressive Stalin.
..can you name any?
....the US had overwhelming power/advantages/airpower/naval power/MANEUVER-tactical with helos/etc---and they LOST in Vietnam
..what makes you think hitler will defeat Russia AND England
..AND the partisans in Norway/Yugoslavia/Italy/France/etc etc ???