This Is Even Worse For Florida's Elderly Than Voter IDs.

[Howey]

I'll never understand the convoluted reasoning of this state. Is this another attempt to disenfranchise their voting ability? I think so...

Two years ago, the nonprofit Center for Independent Living of South Florida asked the department run by Elections Supervisor Penelope Townsley, who is appointed by Mayor Carlos Gimenez, about its plans for giving the disabled access to the polls.

Marc Dubin, the center’s director, said he hoped the county would try to find new voting sites to replace polling places without accessible restrooms, or that it would pay for portable toilets outside those locations.

Instead, the elections department told him that it would prohibit all voters from using restrooms. If no voters could go to the bathroom, the county argued, then it could not be accused of discriminating against only the disabled ones.

“This is the most bizarre response I’ve ever gotten, that we’re going to shut down access for everyone so as not to discriminate,” Dubin said.

Not only does Dubin counter that the county’s contention is incorrect — even if no voters are allowed to use the restroom, federal law requires modifications to be made for the disabled, he said — but he also accuses Miami-Dade of trying to keep voters from the polls.

“This is a very clear way to suppress the vote,” he said. “Telling people, ‘We have 12-hour lines but you can’t go to the bathroom?’ You can be guaranteed that people won’t come out to vote.”

Dubin raised the issue March 31 to the National Commission on Voting Rights, which held a hearing at the University of Miami.

He provided to the Miami Herald an Aug. 1, 2013, email from John Mendez, Miami-Dade’s deputy supervisor of elections for operations, that said “in order to ensure that individuals with disabilities are not treated unfairly, the use of rest rooms by the Voters is not allowed on election day.”

 

[percysunshine]

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about bladder size?

 

[Howey]

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about bladder size?

That's the kind of response I expected from a teabagger.

 

[OKTexas]

Explain why people that might have an issue with this can't just vote absentee? More drama from a political hack for no real reason.

 

[depotoo]

Posted Friday, April 11th 2014 @ 1pm
If you vote at a public polling place in Miami Dade, you WILL be allowed to use the bathroom.Read more:*Voters Will Be Allowed To Use Bathroom

 

[blackhawk]

I highly doubt the State of Florida will ever understand the thinking such as it is of the OP my advice don't try.

 

[Steven_R]

I'll never understand the convoluted reasoning of this state. Is this another attempt to disenfranchise their voting ability? I think so...

Two years ago, the nonprofit Center for Independent Living of South Florida asked the department run by Elections Supervisor Penelope Townsley, who is appointed by Mayor Carlos Gimenez, about its plans for giving the disabled access to the polls.

Marc Dubin, the center’s director, said he hoped the county would try to find new voting sites to replace polling places without accessible restrooms, or that it would pay for portable toilets outside those locations.

Instead, the elections department told him that it would prohibit all voters from using restrooms. If no voters could go to the bathroom, the county argued, then it could not be accused of discriminating against only the disabled ones.

“This is the most bizarre response I’ve ever gotten, that we’re going to shut down access for everyone so as not to discriminate,” Dubin said.

Not only does Dubin counter that the county’s contention is incorrect — even if no voters are allowed to use the restroom, federal law requires modifications to be made for the disabled, he said — but he also accuses Miami-Dade of trying to keep voters from the polls.

“This is a very clear way to suppress the vote,” he said. “Telling people, ‘We have 12-hour lines but you can’t go to the bathroom?’ You can be guaranteed that people won’t come out to vote.”

Dubin raised the issue March 31 to the National Commission on Voting Rights, which held a hearing at the University of Miami.

He provided to the Miami Herald an Aug. 1, 2013, email from John Mendez, Miami-Dade’s deputy supervisor of elections for operations, that said “in order to ensure that individuals with disabilities are not treated unfairly, the use of rest rooms by the Voters is not allowed on election day.”

Just how are the geezers being disenfranchised? No one is saying they won't be allowed to vote, just that the county won't provide a shitter, especially since the county can't provide for cripple shitters. Wear adult diapers, shit you pants, hold it, go before getting in line, whatever...it's not the county's responsibility to provide a pot to piss in.

This is equality in action, which is what we wanted, remember? We can't provide for everyone, so fuck it, we'll provide for no one. Problem solved, problem staying solved.

 

[Yurt]

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about bladder size?

That's the kind of response I expected from a teabagger.

i bet you enjoyed getting teabagged

 

[Yurt]

Posted Friday, April 11th 2014 @ 1pm
If you vote at a public polling place in Miami Dade, you WILL be allowed to use the bathroom.Read more:*Voters Will Be Allowed To Use Bathroom

and howey thread fails again

 

[Katzndogz]

12 hour voting lines? Patently untrue.

 

[blackhawk]

12 hour voting lines? Patently untrue.

Hell is you added up all the time I have stood in line to vote over the years it wouldn't add up to 12 hours.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

More disenfranchising then requiring ID....that is demanding...lol

 

[percysunshine]

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about bladder size?

That's the kind of response I expected from a teabagger.

Except, I am not a teabagger. What other mistaken expectations are you burdened with?

.

 

[Politico]

I believe he was referring to your love of male strippers.

 

[percysunshine]

Stripped bass;

(don't know if this is a guy fish)

.

 

[Politico]

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[Smilebong]

I'll never understand the convoluted reasoning of this state. Is this another attempt to disenfranchise their voting ability? I think so...

Two years ago, the nonprofit Center for Independent Living of South Florida asked the department run by Elections Supervisor Penelope Townsley, who is appointed by Mayor Carlos Gimenez, about its plans for giving the disabled access to the polls.

Marc Dubin, the center’s director, said he hoped the county would try to find new voting sites to replace polling places without accessible restrooms, or that it would pay for portable toilets outside those locations.

Instead, the elections department told him that it would prohibit all voters from using restrooms. If no voters could go to the bathroom, the county argued, then it could not be accused of discriminating against only the disabled ones.

“This is the most bizarre response I’ve ever gotten, that we’re going to shut down access for everyone so as not to discriminate,” Dubin said.

Not only does Dubin counter that the county’s contention is incorrect — even if no voters are allowed to use the restroom, federal law requires modifications to be made for the disabled, he said — but he also accuses Miami-Dade of trying to keep voters from the polls.

“This is a very clear way to suppress the vote,” he said. “Telling people, ‘We have 12-hour lines but you can’t go to the bathroom?’ You can be guaranteed that people won’t come out to vote.”

Dubin raised the issue March 31 to the National Commission on Voting Rights, which held a hearing at the University of Miami.

He provided to the Miami Herald an Aug. 1, 2013, email from John Mendez, Miami-Dade’s deputy supervisor of elections for operations, that said “in order to ensure that individuals with disabilities are not treated unfairly, the use of rest rooms by the Voters is not allowed on election day.”

Just how are the geezers being disenfranchised? No one is saying they won't be allowed to vote, just that the county won't provide a shitter, especially since the county can't provide for cripple shitters. Wear adult diapers, shit you pants, hold it, go before getting in line, whatever...it's not the county's responsibility to provide a pot to piss in.

This is equality in action, which is what we wanted, remember? We can't provide for everyone, so fuck it, we'll provide for no one. Problem solved, problem staying solved.

I don't think the Constitution says you have to provide restrooms for voters.

 

[Seawytch]

I don't think the Constitution says you have to provide restrooms for voters.

Seriously, that's the best you can come up with? Voters in Florida have some of the longest waits in the country, up to six hours and your response is "I don't think peeing is in the Constitution".

 

[Smilebong]

I don't think the Constitution says you have to provide restrooms for voters.

Seriously, that's the best you can come up with? Voters in Florida have some of the longest waits in the country, up to six hours and your response is "I don't think peeing is in the Constitution".

Do you think we have a responsibility to provide a restroom for every voting place?

If so, based on what?

 

[Seawytch]

I don't think the Constitution says you have to provide restrooms for voters.

Seriously, that's the best you can come up with? Voters in Florida have some of the longest waits in the country, up to six hours and your response is "I don't think peeing is in the Constitution".

Do you think we have a responsibility to provide a restroom for every voting place?

If so, based on what?

Based on six hour wait times, that's what.

And their reasoning? "We can't provide ADA approved bathrooms so we just won't provide any". Yeah, that'll get folks to vote for you!