"Thomas Jefferson's Qur'an"

[JakeStarkey]

What a bunch of lies and revisionist of history.

Jefferson bought a Koran because he could not believe that a religious holy book would tell their followers to kill if you did not become a Muslim.
In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they inquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:


It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave & kill; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

Jefferson reported the conversation to Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay, who submitted the Ambassador's comments and offer to Congress. Jefferson argued that paying tribute would encourage more attacks. Although John Adams agreed with Jefferson, he believed that circumstances forced the U.S. to pay tribute until an adequate navy could be built. The U.S. had just fought an exhausting war, which put the nation deep in debt. Federalist and Anti-Federalist forces argued over the needs of the country and the burden of taxation. Jefferson's own Democratic-Republicans and anti-navalists believed that the future of the country lay in westward expansion, with Atlantic trade threatening to siphon money and energy away from the new nation on useless wars in the Old World. The U.S. paid Algiers the ransom, and continued to pay up to $1 million per year over the next 15 years for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. A $1 million payment in ransom and tribute to the privateering states would have amounted to approximately ten percent of the U.S. government's annual revenues in 1800.

Jefferson continued to argue for cessation of the tribute, with rising support from George Washington and others. With the recommissioning of the American navy in 1794 and the resulting increased firepower on the seas, it became increasingly possible for America to refuse paying tribute, although by now the long-standing habit was hard to overturn.

In short we went to war with the same type of Muslim Jihadist ideology that we have today.
We won that war.

The bible advocates for the very same thing.

No it doesn't.
The Bible does not say kill everyone that does not convert to Christianity. The Koran does.
Mankind did that, like the Spanish Inquisition.
Crusaders where trying to take back control over holy cites controlled by Muslims. They were not killing to those who refused to become Christians.

The Crusaders slaughtered most of the inhabitants of Jerusalem and most Antioch when they captured those cities.

The revisionism needs to be kept to a minimum, guys.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

No it doesn't.
The Bible does not say kill everyone that does not convert to Christianity. The Koran does.
Mankind did that, like the Spanish Inquisition.
Crusaders where trying to take back control over holy cites controlled by Muslims. They were not killing to those who refused to become Christians.

Tell us how you follow Jesus.

With Love

Tell how you characteristics compare to the characteristics of Jesus. How many beers do you drink a week?

And what does that mean with love? I'm not talking about a belief in your head only.

I'm asking about your daily life. Do you know how Jesus used to live his life?

 

[MuadDib]

Tell us how you follow Jesus.

With Love

Tell how you characteristics compare to the characteristics of Jesus. How many beers do you drink a week?

And what does that mean with love? I'm not talking about a belief in your head only.

I'm asking about your daily life. Do you know how Jesus used to live his life?

Love God? Love your fellow man.

It's that simple.