"....To The Marriage of True Minds...."

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The marriage of 'true minds'?
True? Sure....true to the totalitarian dream.

....Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, .......and Franklin Roosevelt.



1. Misdirection- the tool of the magician.....and the charlatan.

This tool was used to perfection by the leaders of the most evil of regimes, so much so that to this day, most of society accepts the doctrines of the Soviets as normal and even reputable.

a. There are 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies.'

b. "Fifty years of liberal propaganda got people to thinking of Communist Party members as lovable idealists and the urge to fire them from their government jobs as an irrational anachronistic prejudice."

And this..
."When anti-communism took its toll in Hollywood, the blacklisting took the “deadly” form of not having ones name in the credits, or living in Paris, or not being able to sell a teleplay for as much as three years. This for folks who had no problem with Ukrainian farmers and their children eating their shoes."
Coulter




2. The actual events and actions were far more stark:

"We may perhaps put this in perspective in the present case by saying that the actions here recorded about twenty human lives were lost for, not every word, but every letter in this book." This was the second sentence in Sovietologist and historian, Robert Conquest's book, "The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine."

That sentence alone represents 3,040 human lives. The paperback version of the book is 430 pages.



a. "And the children's faces were aged, tormented, just as if they were seventy years old. And by spring they no longer had faces. Instead, they had birdlilke heads with beaks, or frog heads- thin, wide lips- and some of them resembled fish, mouths open. In one hut there would be something like a war. Everyone would keep close watch over everyone else...

The wife turned against her husband and the husband against his wife. The mother hated the children. And in some other hut love would be inviolable to the very last. I knew one woman with four children. She would tell them fairy stories and legends so that they would forget their hunger. Her own tongue could hardly move, but she would take them into her arms even though she had hardly the strength to lift her arms when they were empty. Love lived on within her. And people noticed that where there was hate people died off more swiftly. Yet love, for that matter, saved no one. The whole village perished, one and all. No life remained in it."
From the novel "Forever Flowing," by Vasily Grossman.



This, government school grads, is the education that has been denied you.
 
For a communist nation, we sure have a lot of what the Soviets didn't...
 
And white bitches that have crocodile tears for Ukrainians yet deny anything unjust as to how the US treated it's native population when building its empire...have yet to gain my attention for support..
 
For a communist nation, we sure have a lot of what the Soviets didn't...


Why are you avoiding the central query?

Try again:
a. There are 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies.'

Why?
 
ZOMG ANOTHER PoliticalSpice commie/democrat plot thread?!!!


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For a communist nation, we sure have a lot of what the Soviets didn't...


Why are you avoiding the central query?

Try again:
a. There are 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies.'

Why?
Ask Jerry Seinfeld...I'm not Jewish enough.....


Sorry....wrong again....the answer involves an Episcopalian who was baptized in the chapel of St. James Episcopal Church in Hyde Park...

...Franklin Roosevelt.

As per the OP, he 'married' this nation to communism.
 
If America's leadership was enamored with Stalin's results.....

....what was it really like to live in the 'worker's paradise'?



3." Cannibalism was widely practiced—and widely punished. Not all these pitiable anthropophagi received the supreme penalty. In the late 1930s, 325 cannibals from the Ukraine were still serving life sentences in Baltic slave camps.

The famine was an enforced famine: the peasants were stripped of their food. On June 11, 1933, the Ukrainian paper Visti praised an "alert" secret policeman for unmasking and arresting a "fascist saboteur" who had hidden some bread in a hole under a pile of clover." "
"Koba the Dread: Laughter and the Twenty Million," by Martin Amis


That was June of 1933....yet Roosevelt rushed to give Stalin the imprimature of the United States in November of the same year.





a. "You live among this ridiculous wealth and you get lost. You worry about nonsense like spirituality and inner health and satisfaction and relationships. You have no idea how lucky you are. You have no idea what it is like to starve, to watch yourself turn to bones, to sit by hopelessly while someone you love, someone otherwise young and healthy slowly dies, and a part of you, some horrible instinctive part of you, is almost happy because now you will get a bite-and-a-half sliver of bread today instead of just a bite size."
From the novel “The Woods,” by Harlan Coben




This is the regime, these are the people, to whom Franklin Roosevelt saw fit to wed the American people.

And this is the 'workers paradise' which Stalin's spies and fellow travelers aimed to furnish for all Americans.
Thank goodness for Senator Joseph McCarthy!



Bet government school grads never knew this.
 
4. Franklin Roosevelt must have felt his affinity for Joseph Stalin and communist doctrine early on, long before he won the presidency.....after all one of is first official acts, in the first year in office, he did what previous leaders refused to do....
embrace Russia, providing for the communists what it had lied and cheated for since its inception: world-wide recognition.


a. FDR came into office March 4th of 1933. On November 16, 1933, President Roosevelt rushed to embrace....recognize...the USSR. If this act, based on FDR's additional pro-Soviet endeavors, was rational....then these folks must have been irrational:
"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government.

That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.




5. From the start, Stalin and Hitler were allies, in their aims and in their doctrine.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."
NYTimes, November 27, 1925


Why are there 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies'???




Roosevelt knew when he cast his lot, our lot, with Stalin.
 
FDR needed a market for US goods, especially for agricultural goods. So long as we had no diplomatic ties with the USSR, US farmers couldn't sell their wheat there.

The White Russians weren't coming back to power and FDR knew it the same way Nixon knew Taipei wasn't going to somehow take over mainland China.
 
FDR needed a market for US goods, especially for agricultural goods. So long as we had no diplomatic ties with the USSR, US farmers couldn't sell their wheat there.

The White Russians weren't coming back to power and FDR knew it the same way Nixon knew Taipei wasn't going to somehow take over mainland China.



Why are there 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies'???
 
Why are there 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies'???


When will the less than astute realize how far they've been led astray?

Any differences between Nazis and Communists represent differences without any real distinctions.

By any metric....the communists were worse....and far more successful.


6. When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him. Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe.
"There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan."
Vladimir Bukovsky.


But Hitler didn't have the supplies nor resources he needed, so August 23, 1939, Soviet Russia' Foreign Minister Molotov signs the Nazi-Soviet Non-aggression Pact while German Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop and Soviet leader Josef Stalin look on, while standing under a portrait of Lenin –materials to be provided in later economic agreements....and they were.


b. "1939- At the same time, Stalin helps supply the German war effort, providing the Nazi regime with oil, wood, copper, manganese ore, rubber, grain, and other resources under a trade agreement between the two nations. Stalin views the war against Germany as a conflict "between two groups of capitalist countries", saying there is "nothing wrong in their having a good fight and weakening each other." Georgy Zhukov hero file


He's referring to war between Germany and the West.....and the West included America.

What did Roosevelt do?
Embraced him.
 
In the children's book about the charming little French girl, "Madeline," the lovely little girl learned the difference.....'“...smiled at the good, and frowned at the bad…”

As a result of Roosevelt's efforts, not so of American children. The popular President taught America to embrace evil.

He taught them to smile at communism.....as he did.




7. While the 'educated' horrified at the deeds of the Nazis, they chuckle at anti-communists.
Why?
Not only were communist's deeds worse than the Nazis....the communists taught the Nazis how to accomplish every inhumanity.

The Soviets were both mentors, allies and facilitators to Hitler's savages.


The Soviet Premier Molotov warned the West not to fight Nazi ideology. And in his address to the Supreme Soviet in the Kremlin, Molotov declared that fighting Nazi ideology was actually a crime.....because the two ideologies and methods were the same.


Molotov oversaw the extermination of 7 million Ukrainians; Hitler, the same with the Jews.

Many Jews fled to the USSR....where Stalin rounded them up, and delivered them to the Gestapo as a gesture of friendship.




8. "The Soviet NKVD trained the SS, taught them how to build concentration camps, as they had been operating for 20 years before the origin of the Nazis."

Viktor Suvorov, former Soviet Military Intelligence Officer.

"According to Suvorov,Stalin planned to use Nazi Germany as a proxy (the “Icebreaker”) against the West. For this reason Stalin provided significant material and political support to Adolf Hitler, while at the same time preparing the Red Army to “liberate” the whole of Europe from Nazi occupation." Viktor Suvorov - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



So.......why are there 'soup Nazis,' and 'grammar Nazis,'....but no 'soup commies,' or 'grammar commies'???

Answer: FDR
 
9. Stalin's Russia behaved no differently than Hitler's German. In fact....worse by every measure.

The world, and Franklin Roosevelt, knew the following.

From Martin Amis, who lived in a communist home in England:


"....sturdily ignorant of the USSR's domestic cataclysms. But its foreign policies hardly cried out for one's allegiance.

A summary.

August 1939: the Nazi-Soviet Pact.

September 1939: the Nazi-Soviet invasion-partition of Poland (and a second pact: the Soviet-German Treaty on Borders and Friendship).

November 1939: the annexation of Western Ukraine and Western Belorussia, and the attempted invasion of Finland (causing the USSR's expulsion, the following month, from the League of Nations).

June 1940: the annexation of Moldavia and Northern Bukovina.

August 1940: the annexation of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia; and the murder of Trotsky.



These acquisitions and decapitations would have seemed modest compared to Hitler's helter-skelter successes over the same period. And then in June 1941, of course, Germany attacked the Soviet Union. My father [Kingsley Amis] rightly expected to participate in the war; the Russians were now his allies. It was then that he joined the Party, and he remained a believer for fifteen years."
Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread," chapter one.



How did Roosevelt 'punish' Stalin's incursions? In November 1940, he met with Stalin's agent, Armand Hammer, and accepted Stalin's plan to begin Lend-Lease. It gave Uncle Joe an unending and unbelievable buffet of supplies.



a. September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities. Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.


a. Norway was invaded with the direct help of the Soviet Union, providing the Soviet naval base near Murmansk. "German Admiral Raeder sent a letter of thanks to the Commander of the Soviet Navy, Kuznetsov."



Archival footage shows Nazi and Russian officers partying together. The USSR became the supplier of oil, iron ore, construction materials for Hitler's Blitzkrieg. And trainloads of grain, even while Russians were starving.

Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."
http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==
http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==




Yet the most ignorant, those 'educated' in government schools, 'smile at the communists, and frown at the Nazis.'
Why the heck aren't the communists looked on with as much hatred as the Nazis?
Why?


And so, today, the major political party stands for the same things as the post-war communist party.
 
And if the US existed in a vacuum alone with Stalin, those dates might mean something. But Hitler was up to no good on his foreign policy front between March 20,1933 and December 8, 1941. Stalin and the Soviets sucked, but Hitler was a knife aimed at Europe's throat and occasionally at America's (USS Reuben James ring any bells?)

Even if FDR hated the taste of Commie cum on the back of his polio paralyzed pipes, he still had to look at the bigger picture and realize that sooner or later we were going to fight Germany and Japan and the Soviets were going to be a weapon in the fight.
 

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