Trump supporters really need to stop lying

[CowboyTed]

Because the house does not convict.

They were supposed to present a case for impeachment, they didn't

They did. And they voted to impeach. Now the Senate holds the trial and considers to convict.

The Senate is the jury, not prosecution #2.

75 percent of the American people want witnesses. trump says he is innocent and all the democrats have is second hand stuff. trump, pence, Pompeo, Giuliani, Parnas, Bolton and Mulvaney have the first hand stuff. Lets hear it. No more blocking witnesses

So what? Laws > Polling.

There's an impeachment process in place in the Constitution, that's what govern, not polling data.

Iran Nan needed to build her case, instead she forced the vote through along her reed thin Party line.

Well lets clear this up... Where in the constitution does it say the President has Executive Privilege? Then tell us how he is allowed to use it to contradict the Congress's Sole Power of oversight over the Executive branch.

 

[colfax_m]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

You complained that there were no firsthand witnesses. The Senate has the opportunity to call a firsthand witness. If they pass it up, it’s proof they’re not interested in knowing the truth.

 

[JGalt]

It has been trump who has refused consistently to allow witnesses to testify who, presumably, would provide testimony that would exonerate him, and refused to provide documents that could also help him. These actions, while not proving guilt, do suggest that he is hiding something; a suggestion that is given support by the testimony of those who did testify.

Why should Trump allow them witnesses when the whole impeachment was a sham from the start? Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff didn't even bring the impeachment investigation to the floor for a full House vote.

That's not how you do an impeachment, they fucked themselves from the start.

 

[occupied]

The kind of people who still support Trump are not interested in truth. When you are trying to kill democracy and install a supreme leader the truth is always inconvenient.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

You complained that there were no firsthand witnesses. The Senate has the opportunity to call a firsthand witness. If they pass it up, it’s proof they’re not interested in knowing the truth.

The Senate is not Prosecutor #2! If the House had no case, they had no business moving forward!

 

[colfax_m]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

You complained that there were no firsthand witnesses. The Senate has the opportunity to call a firsthand witness. If they pass it up, it’s proof they’re not interested in knowing the truth.

The Senate is not Prosecutor #2! IF the House had no case, they had no business moving forward!

They are in impeachment.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They were supposed to present a case for impeachment, they didn't

They did. And they voted to impeach. Now the Senate holds the trial and considers to convict.

The Senate is the jury, not prosecution #2.

75 percent of the American people want witnesses. trump says he is innocent and all the democrats have is second hand stuff. trump, pence, Pompeo, Giuliani, Parnas, Bolton and Mulvaney have the first hand stuff. Lets hear it. No more blocking witnesses

So what? Laws > Polling.

There's an impeachment process in place in the Constitution, that's what govern, not polling data.

Iran Nan needed to build her case, instead she forced the vote through along her reed thin Party line.

Well lets clear this up... Where in the constitution does it say the President has Executive Privilege? Then tell us how he is allowed to use it to contradict the Congress's Sole Power of oversight over the Executive branch.

All for another topic, are you saying the House did NOT have overwhelming evidence?

 

[francoHFW]

You need to start looking at crazy Iran Nan's impeachment like Biden's exposure of the democrat Party and Mitt Romney's Ukrianian Money Laundering Operation, it's the last thing they'll ever do as a national Party. It's a desperate, last act to try to drag Trump down with them.

Historians will see a democrat Party openly embracing Stalinesque tactics, laundering taxpayer money to enrich themselves, flooding the country with illegal adults while selling illegal children to their fellow pedophiles and clearly state that Iran Nan's rushed and flawed impeachment was a petty, despicable act to besmirch Trump

Democrats have to stop saying that Trump supporters are lying since they actually have been so misinformed they believe all this crap. Democrats should spend all their time fact-checking the garbage propaganda and appealing to every Americans patriotism. we have a flat tax system and the hundreds of scandals against Democrats are all bulshit. Law enforcement and journalists around the world I want hundred percent amazed and disgusted by the greedy idiot lying scumbag GOP.

 

[CowboyTed]

It has been trump who has refused consistently to allow witnesses to testify who, presumably, would provide testimony that would exonerate him, and refused to provide documents that could also help him. These actions, while not proving guilt, do suggest that he is hiding something; a suggestion that is given support by the testimony of those who did testify.

Why should Trump allow them witnesses when the whole impeachment was a sham from the start? Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff didn't even bring the impeachment investigation to the floor for a full House vote.

That's not how you do an impeachment, they fucked themselves from the start.

Wow
House committee votes to advance articles of impeachment against Trump

were you in a box in Peru for last few weeks

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Voters continue to tune into news about impeachment, as 57 percent say they are paying a lot of attention.

Well that statement right there is a LIE.

Americans have turned this farce out.

And your basic premise is false too. We all know how pollsters manipulate the polls.

And if it were true, you should be happy, but you're not.

 

[depotoo]

Americans want to hear witnesses.

January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 53% Say President Trump Not Telling Truth About Ukraine

On week two of the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, registered voters say 75 - 20 percent that witnesses should be allowed to testify in the impeachment trial, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents.

More than half of voters, 53 - 40 percent, say President Trump is not telling the truth about his actions involving Ukraine. There are sharp divides along party lines, with 89 percent of Republicans saying the president is telling the truth and 92 percent of Democrats saying he is not telling the truth. More independents, 56 percent, believe President Trump is not telling the truth, compared to the 33 percent who say he is telling the truth.

A majority of voters, 57 percent, say they would like President Trump to provide more details about his actions involving Ukraine, while 38 percent say they are satisfied with the explanation he has provided.

More than half of voters, 54 percent, believe President Trump abused his power regarding his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent say he did not.

A similar 52 percent think that President Trump obstructed Congress regarding its investigation of his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent think he did not.

Just over half of American voters, 52 percent, think the Trump administration's withholding of U.S. aid to Ukraine was not justified, while 34 percent say it was justified.

Voters continue to tune into news about impeachment, as 57 percent say they are paying a lot of attention.

QU Poll Release Detail

Once again, Quinnipiac doesn't report how many polled by party and only polls in 12 states. But even then, 48% say they prefer Trump not be removed from office vs 47%.

 

[JGalt]

It has been trump who has refused consistently to allow witnesses to testify who, presumably, would provide testimony that would exonerate him, and refused to provide documents that could also help him. These actions, while not proving guilt, do suggest that he is hiding something; a suggestion that is given support by the testimony of those who did testify.

Why should Trump allow them witnesses when the whole impeachment was a sham from the start? Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff didn't even bring the impeachment investigation to the floor for a full House vote.

That's not how you do an impeachment, they fucked themselves from the start.

Wow
House committee votes to advance articles of impeachment against Trump

were you in a box in Peru for last few weeks

The Republicans had to force them to observe the rule to bring it to a full House vote.

 

[DBA]

Americans want to hear witnesses.

January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 53% Say President Trump Not Telling Truth About Ukraine

On week two of the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, registered voters say 75 - 20 percent that witnesses should be allowed to testify in the impeachment trial, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents.

More than half of voters, 53 - 40 percent, say President Trump is not telling the truth about his actions involving Ukraine. There are sharp divides along party lines, with 89 percent of Republicans saying the president is telling the truth and 92 percent of Democrats saying he is not telling the truth. More independents, 56 percent, believe President Trump is not telling the truth, compared to the 33 percent who say he is telling the truth.

A majority of voters, 57 percent, say they would like President Trump to provide more details about his actions involving Ukraine, while 38 percent say they are satisfied with the explanation he has provided.

More than half of voters, 54 percent, believe President Trump abused his power regarding his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent say he did not.

A similar 52 percent think that President Trump obstructed Congress regarding its investigation of his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent think he did not.

Just over half of American voters, 52 percent, think the Trump administration's withholding of U.S. aid to Ukraine was not justified, while 34 percent say it was justified.

Voters continue to tune into news about impeachment, as 57 percent say they are paying a lot of attention.

QU Poll Release Detail

Trump is closer to you in views then most Progs will ever be.

No he is not. Why whites such as yourself continue trying to make trump a friend of blacks really makes no sense.

The proof is in the pudding.The economic numbers with regards to minorities doesn't lie. You have just been duped and believe the same lies the Democratic Party has been peddling to minorities for decades. Honestly, it is truly sad.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Americans want to hear witnesses.

January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 53% Say President Trump Not Telling Truth About Ukraine

On week two of the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, registered voters say 75 - 20 percent that witnesses should be allowed to testify in the impeachment trial, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents.

More than half of voters, 53 - 40 percent, say President Trump is not telling the truth about his actions involving Ukraine. There are sharp divides along party lines, with 89 percent of Republicans saying the president is telling the truth and 92 percent of Democrats saying he is not telling the truth. More independents, 56 percent, believe President Trump is not telling the truth, compared to the 33 percent who say he is telling the truth.

A majority of voters, 57 percent, say they would like President Trump to provide more details about his actions involving Ukraine, while 38 percent say they are satisfied with the explanation he has provided.

More than half of voters, 54 percent, believe President Trump abused his power regarding his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent say he did not.

A similar 52 percent think that President Trump obstructed Congress regarding its investigation of his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent think he did not.

Just over half of American voters, 52 percent, think the Trump administration's withholding of U.S. aid to Ukraine was not justified, while 34 percent say it was justified.

Voters continue to tune into news about impeachment, as 57 percent say they are paying a lot of attention.

QU Poll Release Detail

You do not need anymore witnesses seeing Nadler and Company said their case was solid and they had more than enough evidence to prove their case...

So was Nadler and Company lying and if so then this proves the House pushed forward on Impeachment with a weak case and the Senate should reject the articles of impeachment...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

IM2 is one dumb sonofabitch, isn't he? It figures. He IS a Democrat..........

I'm way smarter than you. trump can't play me like he's doing you.

I am sure the poster would know where Richmond, Texas is at and not confuse it for a town near Dallas...

 

[toobfreak]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

The House ran 12 weeks of investigation, say they reached a conclusion and passed the evidence now onto the Senate to try.

Now they say their case doesn't even hold water, they just wanted to go home for Christmas slapping each other on the back that they impeached Trump, and now want the Senate to finish their investigation for them!

 

[Dana7360]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

You complained that there were no firsthand witnesses. The Senate has the opportunity to call a firsthand witness. If they pass it up, it’s proof they’re not interested in knowing the truth.

First hand witnesses have already testified in the inquiry in the House.

Vindman was one of the several people who listened to the phone call and took notes on it.

Sondland was also a first hand witness. He actually worked on the project to dig up dirt and get Zelensky to make an announcement of an interview.

Here's an article about 3 first hand witnesses who testified at the inquiry:

Witnesses With Firsthand Knowledge Of Events Central To Impeachment Inquiry Testify

 

[Dana7360]

The kind of people who still support Trump are not interested in truth. When you are trying to kill democracy and install a supreme leader the truth is always inconvenient.

The witnesses aren't for the trump people nor for the senators.

Those witnesses and what they have to say are for the public. Democrats are right to want to make sure that the public gets as much of the truth of the crimes trump has committed.

The democrats in congress aren't stupid. They know that trump will not be convicted. What the democrats are doing is all they can to get truth to the American people so we can vote against him in November and get this criminal out of our White House.

 

[JGalt]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

You complained that there were no firsthand witnesses. The Senate has the opportunity to call a firsthand witness. If they pass it up, it’s proof they’re not interested in knowing the truth.

First hand witnesses have already testified in the inquiry in the House.

Vindman was one of the several people who listened to the phone call and took notes on it.

Sondland was also a first hand witness. He actually worked on the project to dig up dirt and get Zelensky to make an announcement of an interview.

Here's an article about 3 first hand witnesses who testified at the inquiry:

Witnesses With Firsthand Knowledge Of Events Central To Impeachment Inquiry Testify

Where does it say in that wall of text that Trump did anything wrong?

 

[CowboyTed]

Why do we need witnesses when the House said they had an airtight case with overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence?????

The House ran 12 weeks of investigation, say they reached a conclusion and passed the evidence now onto the Senate to try.

Now they say their case doesn't even hold water, they just wanted to go home for Christmas slapping each other on the back that they impeached Trump, and now want the Senate to finish their investigation for them!

Trump clearly obstructed the Congress investigation... The SC should just sit immediately like they did for Bush v Gore and decide if trump executive privlege claims hold water... I very much doubt so but let's see.