Trump warns congress not to interfere with NAFTA deal or he will pull out completely

[Supposn]

Under the original 1993 terms and Chapter 22 of the Implementation Act, Lighthizer notifies congress that trade parties have modified the terms; this is the Section 2202notification of modification. Ninety days after the date of the notification the U.S. and Mexico can sign the new terms of agreement; congressional approval is not required. ...

Hellokitty, are you aware of the White Houses mentioning any specific NAFTA modification proposals, or are you just describing the methods of enacting any modifications? But yes, President Trump can pull out of NAFTA and he needn't even provide his reasoning for doing so.

He doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office. All due to the U.S. Electoral College electing him president. Before he was elected, Donald Trump stated he could Kill someone on 5th Avenue in Mid-afternoon, and he'd still be elected. Apparently, he was correct.
I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump says Canada not needed in NAFTA deal, warns Congress not to...

I hope he does pull out completely!

So, any trade 'deal' would require Congressional approval. I guess Trump is too stupid to know that tho.

Boy, we sure got US a smart one in The White House

He using the "Obama Iranian" precedent

 

[Mike473]

I believe these NAFTA negotiations with Canada would have gone much smoother if the great negotiator hadn't been so quick to bequeath approval of that Keystone XL pipeline.

Trump sabotaged the negotiations with Canada in purpose with his "off the record" attack of them.

Trump is butthurt because they will not kiss his ass and as such he will harm Americans to get his payback.

Canada will come to the table and give the Trump what he wants. Canada has no leverage other than complaining to the media.

 

[Mike473]

Under the original 1993 terms and Chapter 22 of the Implementation Act, Lighthizer notifies congress that trade parties have modified the terms; this is the Section 2202notification of modification. Ninety days after the date of the notification the U.S. and Mexico can sign the new terms of agreement; congressional approval is not required. ...

Hellokitty, are you aware of the White Houses mentioning any specific NAFTA modification proposals, or are you just describing the methods of enacting any modifications? But yes, President Trump can pull out of NAFTA and he needn't even provide his reasoning for doing so.

He doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office. All due to the U.S. Electoral College electing him president. Before he was elected, Donald Trump stated he could Kill someone on 5th Avenue in Mid-afternoon, and he'd still be elected. Apparently, he was correct.
I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain.

Respectfully, Supposn

Trump doesn't have to reveal his tax returns.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I believe these NAFTA negotiations with Canada would have gone much smoother if the great negotiator hadn't been so quick to bequeath approval of that Keystone XL pipeline.

Trump sabotaged the negotiations with Canada in purpose with his "off the record" attack of them.

Trump is butthurt because they will not kiss his ass and as such he will harm Americans to get his payback.

Canada will come to the table and give the Trump what he wants. Canada has no leverage other than complaining to the media.

Canada is the largest trading partner for 72% of the states in the union. Them being shut out would not be good for those 36 states, and a new trade deal has to make it through Congress...how many of those 36 states are going to agree to fuck themselves over for Trump's ego?

 

[Supposn]

Trump doesn't have to reveal his tax returns.

Mike473, you're correct. A car may be driven by a person without a drivers license, and an elected official may lack integrity. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Tresha91203]

Trump doesn't have to reveal his tax returns.

Mike473, you're correct. A car may be driven by a person without a drivers license, and an elected official may lack integrity. Respectfully, Supposn

Most of them have, all my adult life. My family and friends have far more integrity than 90% of the national politicians I remember (local maybe 75%).

 

[my2¢]

Canada will come to the table and give the Trump what he wants. Canada has no leverage other than complaining to the media.

I hope that is so, I think it might depend on the auto supply chain where an adverse affect in one country produces ill effect in another. It seems to me that reducing demand for a car produced in Canada through tariffs will cut demand of sub-assembly parts made here in the U.S. Starting tomorrow I plan on looking up what congressmen and Senators from states such as Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois which are home to many parts plants say about the subject.

 

[Lesh]

if Trump announced that America was pulling out of NAFTA, it would be true in name only. Mexico and Canada would continue to get all the lower tariffs and other policy benefits of NAFTA until Congress acted.

 

[Rustic]

Trump says Canada not needed in NAFTA deal, warns Congress not to...

I hope he does pull out completely!

No doubt, NAFTA has been incredibly harmful to small business

 

[Marion Morrison]

Trump desires to completely block any potential influence Congress may have, Trump expects to have complete, unfettered control of all negotiations, unfettered control concerning policy ideas, yet Trump at the end of the day expects to receive Congressional approval? LOL. That's rich.

The Executive branch is in charge of foreign policy, not Congress, dipshit. Are you even American?

 

[Lesh]

Trump can "pull out" in name only. Congress would have to approve any actual changes

 

[Rustic]

Under the original 1993 terms and Chapter 22 of the Implementation Act, Lighthizer notifies congress that trade parties have modified the terms; this is the Section 2202notification of modification. Ninety days after the date of the notification the U.S. and Mexico can sign the new terms of agreement; congressional approval is not required. ...

Hellokitty, are you aware of the White Houses mentioning any specific NAFTA modification proposals, or are you just describing the methods of enacting any modifications? But yes, President Trump can pull out of NAFTA and he needn't even provide his reasoning for doing so.

He doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office. All due to the U.S. Electoral College electing him president. Before he was elected, Donald Trump stated he could Kill someone on 5th Avenue in Mid-afternoon, and he'd still be elected. Apparently, he was correct.
I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain.

Respectfully, Supposn

Trump doesn't have to reveal his tax returns.

Yep, Because they are no one else’s business

 

[Hellokitty]

Under the original 1993 terms and Chapter 22 of the Implementation Act, Lighthizer notifies congress that trade parties have modified the terms; this is the Section 2202notification of modification. Ninety days after the date of the notification the U.S. and Mexico can sign the new terms of agreement; congressional approval is not required. ...

Hellokitty, are you aware of the White Houses mentioning any specific NAFTA modification proposals, or are you just describing the methods of enacting any modifications? But yes, President Trump can pull out of NAFTA and he needn't even provide his reasoning for doing so.

He doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office. All due to the U.S. Electoral College electing him president. Before he was elected, Donald Trump stated he could Kill someone on 5th Avenue in Mid-afternoon, and he'd still be elected. Apparently, he was correct.
I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain.

Respectfully, Supposn

Text of a Letter from the President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate

 

[Lesh]

The president has since threatened many times he'll pull out of NAFTA entirely if he doesn't get a deal to his liking. With seven rounds of negotiations over and no conclusion in sight, it increasingly looks like Trump will have to make good on that threat.

There's just one problem: He can't. Not in a way that would matter at any rate.

There are actually two things at work here: There's the NAFTA treaty agreement, and then there's the domestic legislation that implemented NAFTA.

Trump can unilaterally pull us out of the first: "Under his constitutional foreign policy powers, Trump can send a letter on U.S. letterhead to Canada and Mexico saying, 'We are no longer members of NAFTA,'" Todd Tucker, a political scientist and a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, with a focus on global economic governance and trade, explained to The Week.

But on its own, that's just a formality. Congress had to pass laws to lower tariffs and deliver all the other policies that America, Canada and Mexico agreed to: Namely, the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act. Trump can't unilaterally cancel it. Constitutionally, scrapping that law would itself be legislation, requiring a congressional vote and a presidential signature, same as any other law.

In other words, if Trump announced that America was pulling out of NAFTA, it would be true in name only. Mexico and Canada would continue to get all the lower tariffs and other policy benefits of NAFTA until Congress acted.

 

[Supposn]

The president has since threatened many times he'll pull out of NAFTA entirely if he doesn't get a deal to his liking. With seven rounds of negotiations over and no conclusion in sight, it increasingly looks like Trump will have to make good on that threat.

There's just one problem: He can't. Not in a way that would matter at any rate.

There are actually two things at work here: There's the NAFTA treaty agreement, and then there's the domestic legislation that implemented NAFTA.

Trump can unilaterally pull us out of the first: "Under his constitutional foreign policy powers, Trump can send a letter on U.S. letterhead to Canada and Mexico saying, 'We are no longer members of NAFTA,'" Todd Tucker, a political scientist and a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, with a focus on global economic governance and trade, explained to The Week.

But on its own, that's just a formality. Congress had to pass laws to lower tariffs and deliver all the other policies that America, Canada and Mexico agreed to: Namely, the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act. Trump can't unilaterally cancel it. Constitutionally, scrapping that law would itself be legislation, requiring a congressional vote and a presidential signature, same as any other law.

In other words, if Trump announced that America was pulling out of NAFTA, it would be true in name only. Mexico and Canada would continue to get all the lower tariffs and other policy benefits of NAFTA until Congress acted.

Lesh, what domestic legislation are you referring to (other than the NATA agreement itself)? The president can unilaterally declare the USA will resign from NAFTA in six months. He doesn't require Congress to agree to that.

President Trump wants to increase tariffs on Mexican goods and he already has the power to do so temporarily.

He needs congress's consent to continue his tariffs after the specified time, but until then, (regardless of congress's opinion), the president can determine what those tariffs should be. He can enact a great deal of mischief temporarily. Marketplaces are not so easily restored after they've been disrupted. President Trump has actual power rather as you describe it as “in name only”.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Care4all]

The president has since threatened many times he'll pull out of NAFTA entirely if he doesn't get a deal to his liking. With seven rounds of negotiations over and no conclusion in sight, it increasingly looks like Trump will have to make good on that threat.

There's just one problem: He can't. Not in a way that would matter at any rate.

There are actually two things at work here: There's the NAFTA treaty agreement, and then there's the domestic legislation that implemented NAFTA.

Trump can unilaterally pull us out of the first: "Under his constitutional foreign policy powers, Trump can send a letter on U.S. letterhead to Canada and Mexico saying, 'We are no longer members of NAFTA,'" Todd Tucker, a political scientist and a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, with a focus on global economic governance and trade, explained to The Week.

But on its own, that's just a formality. Congress had to pass laws to lower tariffs and deliver all the other policies that America, Canada and Mexico agreed to: Namely, the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act. Trump can't unilaterally cancel it. Constitutionally, scrapping that law would itself be legislation, requiring a congressional vote and a presidential signature, same as any other law.

In other words, if Trump announced that America was pulling out of NAFTA, it would be true in name only. Mexico and Canada would continue to get all the lower tariffs and other policy benefits of NAFTA until Congress acted.

Lesh, what domestic legislation are you referring to (other than the NATA agreement itself)? The president can unilaterally declare the USA will resign from NAFTA in six months. He doesn't require Congress to agree to that.

President Trump wants to increase tariffs on Mexican goods and he already has the power to do so temporarily.

He needs congress's consent to continue his tariffs after the specified time, but until then, (regardless of congress's opinion), the president can determine what those tariffs should be. He can enact a great deal of mischief temporarily. Marketplaces are not so easily restored after they've been disrupted. President Trump has actual power rather as you describe it as “in name only”.

Respectfully, Supposn

Congress can take FAST TRACK away from the President if he does not follow the rules.... the President only has this power, because Congress gave it to him....

The Constitution gives Congress exclusive authority to set tariffs and enact other legislation governing internation trade. The President has the Constitutional authority to negotiate international agreements. If the President negotiates a trade agreement that requires changes in U.S. tariffs or in other domestic laws, that trade agreement's implementing legislation must be submitted to Congress -- or the President must have Congress' advance approval of such changes.
Fast track is an expedited procedure for Congressional consideration of trade agreements. It requires Congress to vote on an agreement without reopening any of its provisions, while retaining the ultimate power of voting it up or down. The three essential features of any fast track authority are:

(1) extensive consultations and coordination with Congress throughout the process;
(2) a vote on implementing legislation within a fixed period of time; and
(3) an up or down vote, with no amendments.
Ultimately, fast track gives the President credibility to negotiate tough trade deals, while ensuring Congress a central role before, during and after negotiations. The authority puts America in a strong position to negotiate major trade agreements and maintains a partnership between the President and Congress that has worked for more than 20 years.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump says Canada not needed in NAFTA deal, warns Congress not to...

I hope he does pull out completely!

MEGALOMANIA AT WORK; DJT is in way over his head. He lacks common sense and the ability to learn from his many mistakes.

 

[Supposn]

... He, [President Trump] doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office.... I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain. ...

Yep, Because they, [President Trump's tax returns] are no one else’s business

Rustic, because voters such as yourself believe that, we have the president we deserve. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Rustic]

... He, [President Trump] doesn't reveal his tax returns, he doesn't put his investments into blind trusts, his hotels and other enterprises can profit due to his office.... I don't believe a democratic republic elects worse than their voters deserve, and we need not continue to tolerate worse. We deserve what we elect and retain. ...

Yep, Because they, [President Trump's tax returns] are no one else’s business

Rustic, because voters such as yourself believe that, we have the president we deserve. Respectfully, Supposn

He’s not a career politician, that is refreshing