Trumps wants to pay us for money DOGE saved.

[YoursTruly]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.
The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).


Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

 

[BluesLegend]

One way for master marketer Trump to win over the American people to cutting the size and waste of government is to give the money saved back to the people. Soon after the people will want another 10% CUT! This will F up the Democrats in a serious way.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.

Not true.

You are counting money as spent, when it has only been committed.

That's the beauty of the freeze on funds going out the door. Now that incredible wasteful spending can be reduced in the current budget or CR.

The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

If you're borrwing money for a vehicle that you cannot afford, a $30,000 vehicle is much better than a $50,000 vehicle.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

I agree sending money to people is not the best way to spend it. Cut taxes next year and watch the economy boom, leading to more revenue, and the ability - with more waste out of the budget - to cut taxes again.

A beautiful cycle!

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).

There is no such thing as what "the government has to have." There are things the government wants to have, and things that the taxpayers want it to have.

Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

Uh-huh . . . .

 

[YoursTruly]

If you're borrwing money for a vehicle that you cannot afford, a $30,000 vehicle is much better than a $50,000 vehicle.

It doesn't matter if it's "better" or not. If one still can't afford the new car, even with the discount, it's fiscally irresponsible to buy it.

I agree sending money to people is not the best way to spend it. Cut taxes next year and watch the economy boom, leading to more revenue, and the ability - with more waste out of the budget - to cut taxes again.

We don't have a tax problem. The government has a $36 trillion national debt problem. And a $1 trillion a year interest problem.
Until the national debt gets paid down into the billions, instead of trillions, then lowering tax is only going to prolong paying down the debt.
Tax are fine. Just don't increase them.
Spending more than they take in, creates an inflation tax.
IE Trumps tax cuts before, coupled with the $8 trillion he spent, oblitherated any saving from the tax cuts with a loss in USD value and the inflation that came afterwards.

There is no such thing as what "the government has to have." There are things the government wants to have, and things that the taxpayers want it to have.

Uh-huh . . . .

Really? We don't need a military? We don't need infrastructure? We don't need a house & senate or judges? We don't need border agents?

 

[YoursTruly]

One way for master marketer Trump to win over the American people to cutting the size and waste of government is to give the money saved back to the people. Soon after the people will want another 10% CUT! This will F up the Democrats in a serious way.

There is nothing to give back. That money is gone.

Trumps got people thinking he and DOGE found trillions, just laying around in bags.

 

[MarathonMike]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.
The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).


Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

I believe it is premature to hand out tax rebate checks. DOGE is finding a mixed bag of bloat, waste, fraud, and corruption. Let the dust settle, they are on a mission and they are doing something previously thought impossible. Exposing our government's blatant misuse of taxpayer money.

 

[Leo123]

Most of this spending is proposed spending that revenue has already been alotted for. Cutting that proposed spending leaves more money for We The People. If we are currently spending too much, cut backs are needed. You know, like firing useless federal employees. Outing useless past spending and killing those outlets is also a good thing.

 

[Oddball]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.
The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).


Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

Is the loot currently being taken in to spend on that crap already spent?

Be honest.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It doesn't matter if it's "better" or not. If one still can't afford the new car, even with the discount, it's fiscally irresponsible to buy it.


We don't have a tax problem. The government has a $36 trillion national debt problem. And a $1 trillion a year interest problem.
Until the national debt gets paid down into the billions, instead of trillions, then lowering tax is only going to prolong paying down the debt.
Tax are fine. Just don't increase them.
Spending more than they take in, creates an inflation tax.
IE Trumps tax cuts before, coupled with the $8 trillion he spent, oblitherated any saving from the tax cuts with a loss in USD value and the inflation that came afterwards.

Really? We don't need a military? We don't need infrastructure? We don't need a house & senate or judges? We don't need border agents?

You said "has to have," not need.

You didn't address my main point, debunking your claim that the money has already been spent.

Is this Golfing Gator, again?

 

[Leo123]

I believe it is premature to hand out tax rebate checks. DOGE is finding a mixed bag of bloat, waste, fraud, and corruption. Let the dust settle, they are on a mission and they are doing something previously thought impossible. Exposing our government's blatant misuse of taxpayer money.

A $5,000 check from the Fed would be more than welcome to most Americans. In addition, if Trump's policies lower interest rates, inflation, cost of goods and services will plummet and stay at a lower level.

 

[YoursTruly]

You said "has to have," not need.

Has to have and need are practically same exact thing?

Don't pull that semantics BS on me, it won't work. It'll never work.

 

[Orangecat]

I'd be happy enough if he replaced the income tax with a national sales tax.

 

[otto105]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.
The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).


Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

It’s just performative theater.

 

[YoursTruly]

A $5,000 check from the Fed would be more than welcome to most Americans. In addition, if Trump's policies lower interest rates, inflation, cost of goods and services will plummet and stay at a lower level.

That $5000 per person, will still have to be borrowed, with interest. Which is exactly how we got into this mess.
Remember all those stimulus packages? They didn't do anything but increase the debt. And it costs us way more than we got in those checks.

Remember, NOTHING is free. Especially government money.

 

[krichton]

They're saying 20%. I've seen reports (probably false) that it would be $5000.
Sounds great, right? And extra few thousand in a check, from all the money "doge is saving" the American tax payer.

But here's the lie. There is no "saving" anything because the money has already been spent. All they're finding, for the most part, are receipts of money spent. And since it's already spent, then there's no getting it back.
The only thing they can do at this point, is greatly reduce the next CR and Omnibus bills.
They can't pay down the debt, help make SS more solvent for more years. They can't do anything, except reduce future spending.
This is like getting a $20,000 discount on a vehicle you still can't afford, even with the discount.

But Trump is getting people's hopes up that the government is going to send them a check.
1st off, that's not saving any money.
2. Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. So the government sending out more money, it's only going to keep growing the national debt.

They're already spending too much money on things the government has to have. (IE 0% waste).


Just when I start getting my hopes up about Trump, he comes up with some new con.

If you already know he's a con man, why even give him the benefit of the doubt when something spews out of his mouth that sounds like words to a sentence? This is really mind boggling

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Pump in 100 billion of refunds and it will inflate the economy.

 

[YoursTruly]

I'd be happy enough if he replaced the income tax with a national sales tax.

That's because you're stupid.

Because of all the money the government has borrowed & wasted (and now planning to waste more), that's why things cost too much now. A national sales tax is only going to increase costs. Even if you're not paying income tax, people will still slow their buying because of price increases.
Everything will go up higher than the increased taxes.

 

[YoursTruly]

Pump in 100 billion of refunds and it will inflate the economy.

And the national debt. And the interest on the debt. And will create more inflation on the people.

 

[YoursTruly]

If you already know he's a con man, why even give him the benefit of the doubt when something spews out of his mouth that sounds like words to a sentence? This is really mind boggling

I haven't put my full faith in Trump. I'm not stupid.

 

[Oddball]

That $5000 per person, will still have to be borrowed, with interest. Which is exactly how we got into this mess.
Remember all those stimulus packages? They didn't do anything but increase the debt. And it costs us way more than we got in those checks.

Remember, NOTHING is free. Especially government money.

Answer #8.