Vagina? Not in this house!!

Hmmm. I can barely imagine the agony of conflicting emotions many women must go through when faced with such a decision.
Having had more than a few friends go through it, ALL of them knew what they wanted to do and knew that before the first trimester was up.

Of course they had emotions - some conflicting - but if it takes five months to decide to terminate, I propose they have as big or bigger issues going on.

Here's my issue with that. IF it's just a choice and not killing a baby, WHY is it such a hard decision? I mean I've known people that have had to do it for life issues or even had miscarriages and were upset. I get that, but if abortion is just killing "tissue" than I dont see where the strong emotion comes into play. It seems like they want to have an emotional response for us to feel sorry for them, but then the act of what they do is pretty nasty. Some call me insensitive, I will agree.

It's a physical invasion under any circumstances, but the issue must surely, IMO, be whether it is "just tissue" or whether it is considered "life".
 
So far, on an MI website, when asked if Lisa Brown was wrong for using the V-word, this is the vote count.

No, 70.23%

Yes, 22.67%

I need more information, 7.09%

Michigan Rep. Lisa Lyons calls Sen. Gretchen Whitmer 'a liar' and Rep. Lisa Brown's actions 'disgraceful' in growing melee | MLive.com

I'd be very interested in seeing how many people think the Republican reaction (i.e. banning her from the next - unrelated - debate) was right, if anyone has those figures as well....
 
Two Michigan legislators say ‘vagina,’ then silenced | Strange Bedfellows — Politics News - seattlepi.com

So, let me get this straight.....the Michigan House wants to debate a bill about what people can do with their vaginas. But you just can't say "vagina." Bills about what women do with their body are apparently a-okay. But bills that would dictate what a man does with his body apparently fail to "maintain decorum"? What the Hell is going on in Michigan?

You need to be BANNED for breaking decorum! Can we get an ADMIN here? He said the 'V' word! That's GROSS!
 
They should ban her for introducing idiotic legislation:


The House forbid Byrum from introducing her amendment to the abortion bill, which would have banned men from getting a vasectomy unless they could provide proof that it was a medical emergency

Read more: Michigan State Rep. Lisa Brown silenced after


Sperm are alive are they not?

What kind of life are sperm? Dog life? Cat life? Ant life? No, silly, HUMAN life. But in Michigan its OK for men to destroy God's Creations by masturbating, vasectomozing - whatever. Billions upon billions of human life sperm go die in vain everyday in toilets, socks, and on the backs of in-the-closet Republicans - yet no one will stand up for their rights!
 
They should ban her for introducing idiotic legislation:


They just shouldn't allow women in the legislature at all. Their place is in the home. Fucking uppity bitches. Her husband must be starving to death, poor guy.
The House forbid Byrum from introducing her amendment to the abortion bill, which would have banned men from getting a vasectomy unless they could provide proof that it was a medical emergency
This bitch needs to be put in her place. She needs to wake up to the fact that men run the world and if she thinks just because she was born a human being she has the right to her own body she needs to look between her legs and see no penis and realize - "hey, I'm a woman, I need to shut the fuck up and follow orders."
 
Yeah she's not a bright one, her statement alludes to some sort of unwanted sexual advance by the speaker as opposed to legislation about abortion. Is she claiming sexual harassment? She should be allowed to say vagina though but I doubt that's why she is banned from speaking.
She is temporarily banned from speaking for not following procedure, then tossing a temper tantrum because she was told to follow procedure.

Beyond unprofessional.

What procedure did Lisa Brown violate? The one that prohibits women from speaking?
 
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Yeah she's not a bright one, her statement alludes to some sort of unwanted sexual advance by the speaker as opposed to legislation about abortion. Is she claiming sexual harassment? She should be allowed to say vagina though but I doubt that's why she is banned from speaking.

I know its going to come as a huge surprise to you, but the vagina has purposes other than sexual intercourse.
 
Yeah she's not a bright one, her statement alludes to some sort of unwanted sexual advance by the speaker as opposed to legislation about abortion. Is she claiming sexual harassment? She should be allowed to say vagina though but I doubt that's why she is banned from speaking.

I know its going to come as a huge surprise to you, but the vagina has purposes other than sexual intercourse.

The "purposes" of the vagina deal almost exclusively with reproduction.

A vagina and a urethra are not the same things, you know.
 
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Yeah she's not a bright one, her statement alludes to some sort of unwanted sexual advance by the speaker as opposed to legislation about abortion. Is she claiming sexual harassment? She should be allowed to say vagina though but I doubt that's why she is banned from speaking.

I know its going to come as a huge surprise to you, but the vagina has purposes other than sexual intercourse.

The "purposes" of the vagina deal almos exclusively with reproduction.

I never said it didn't. Can you fucking read? See bold faced words. Or are you unaware that the entire process of reproduction takes about 35,000 times longer than the process of actual intercourse?
 
They should ban her for introducing idiotic legislation:


They just shouldn't allow women in the legislature at all. Their place is in the home. Fucking uppity bitches. Her husband must be starving to death, poor guy.
The House forbid Byrum from introducing her amendment to the abortion bill, which would have banned men from getting a vasectomy unless they could provide proof that it was a medical emergency
This bitch needs to be put in her place. She needs to wake up to the fact that men run the world and if she thinks just because she was born a human being she has the right to her own body she needs to look between her legs and see no penis and realize - "hey, I'm a woman, I need to shut the fuck up and follow orders."

Well.

If women want to keep proving this every time they come up with some sort of foolishness, maybe they should shut the fuck up and follow orders.

When did Indira Ghandi, Golda Mier or Margaret Thatcher find it necessary to discuss their sex organs in the halls of government?

It seems that American women are still afflicted with proving over and over again that they have no place in positions of authority. All they can do is pull down their pants and said "Look. I gotta pussy".
 
They should ban her for introducing idiotic legislation:


They just shouldn't allow women in the legislature at all. Their place is in the home. Fucking uppity bitches. Her husband must be starving to death, poor guy.
The House forbid Byrum from introducing her amendment to the abortion bill, which would have banned men from getting a vasectomy unless they could provide proof that it was a medical emergency
This bitch needs to be put in her place. She needs to wake up to the fact that men run the world and if she thinks just because she was born a human being she has the right to her own body she needs to look between her legs and see no penis and realize - "hey, I'm a woman, I need to shut the fuck up and follow orders."

Well.

If women want to keep proving this every time they come up with some sort of foolishness, maybe they should shut the fuck up and follow orders.

No shit. Lisa Brown had no right to speak in the legislature.

When did Indira Ghandi, Golda Mier or Margaret Thatcher find it necessary to discuss their sex organs in the halls of government?
Yeah no shit! You're not allowed to talk about sex organs in the halls of government! Certainly not using the scientific terms for them, either. You're only allowed to write and pass laws that regulate what people can do with their sex organs, and then only straight men should be allowed to do that. Haven't these people read the Constitution? Just because a legislature can write a law about something doesn't mean it can be talked about on the floor of that legislature! Jeez. Gross. A vagina, Who wants to think of that?




It seems that American women are still afflicted with proving over and over again that they have no place in positions of authority. All they can do is pull down their pants and said "Look. I gotta pussy".


Fucking stupid hos. If they really wanted to prove they have a place in a position of authority they'd shut the fuck up and do what we tell them.


BTW Katz - how do you keep your bitch in line? Physical or emotional abuse?
 
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Oh, another one.

Yeah. Another one. Another one who can see how backwards and dumb the Conservative movement is, especially social Conservatism.

Yes, another one who thinks as a man I have no right to tell ANY woman what she can do with her genitalia. Because you know, I'm all evolved and shit.

My jury's still out on that last point.

LOL he just told me he was pro abortion, it's so easy to get them to drop that BS arguement of pro choice, because he's only pro choice on abortion, nothing else.
 
I know its going to come as a huge surprise to you, but the vagina has purposes other than sexual intercourse.

The "purposes" of the vagina deal almos exclusively with reproduction.

I never said it didn't. Can you fucking read? See bold faced words. Or are you unaware that the entire process of reproduction takes about 35,000 times longer than the process of actual intercourse?

ALRIGHT...ooh is back and as stupid as ever. Welcome back my man!
 
What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.
 
What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.

Oh I missed that, she thought it was because she was a Jew? WOW, and she's in a part that supports the PLO, she really has no clue, doe she? I'd say this thread was good, atleast because we smoked out another pro"Choice" person. When people try to BS it's always fun to show them for what they really are (I looooove to smoke out moderates too)
 
What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.


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What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.

Oh I missed that, she thought it was because she was a Jew? WOW, and she's in a part that supports the PLO, she really has no clue, doe she? I'd say this thread was good, atleast because we smoked out another pro"Choice" person. When people try to BS it's always fun to show them for what they really are (I looooove to smoke out moderates too)

Well she made reference to the fact that she was a Jew and suggested she may have been silenced because of her religious beliefs.
 
What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.


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I hope you don't sit around at night wondering why people think you're a dick.
 
What I see is a lot of stupidity on both sides. No, she shouldn't have been silenced for a day for using the technically correct term "vagina", but she loses her credibility by going out and suggesting that it may have been because she is a Jew. I mean come on. It was the "vagina" not the "Jew". BTW...I hate the word vagina. Not because I am offended by it. I just hate the way it sounds. It's like "tardy". I hate tardy too. I cringe slightly every time I hear it. "Potty" as well. If someone said they were "tardy getting their vagina to the potty" I'd probably have convulsions.

I digress.

What I see is a bunch of childish bickering, time wasted, money wasted, and people being distracted from real issues because of all of it from both sides. So I see this as yet another example of the bullshit tit-for-tat crap our political system has become...and both sides are to blame.

Oh I missed that, she thought it was because she was a Jew? WOW, and she's in a part that supports the PLO, she really has no clue, doe she? I'd say this thread was good, atleast because we smoked out another pro"Choice" person. When people try to BS it's always fun to show them for what they really are (I looooove to smoke out moderates too)

Well she made reference to the fact that she was a Jew and suggested she may have been silenced because of her religious beliefs.



Her religious beliefs say that the life of the mother is more valuable than the life of the unborn fetus. Do you find it hard to believe someone who believed the opposite would want her to shut up? After all, it would be dangerous if the Christians were no longer able to use the term "Judeo-Christian" to their advantage, to make everyone think the Jews always went along with their wackjob legislations of morality.

Hey, she said the word "vagina" - so why not use that as the excuse?
 
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