Zone1 Wanna Be Catholic

[JB-FreeTex]

I've been a regular at Mass for over 30 years. I admire the Mass & the majority of the Catechism. I am pursuing RCIA or OCIA. However, due to the position taken below & a couple of other things, I struggle with the Believe all Catholic beliefs requirement. I feel that the Church should focus on the reason WHY the people are breaking into the US. Instead they are focusing on Trump's policy. Frustrating. What say you Catholics? Can you help me?

 

[theHawk]

I've been a regular at Mass for over 30 years. I admire the Mass & the majority of the Catechism. I am pursuing RCIA or OCIA. However, due to the position taken below & a couple of other things, I struggle with the Believe all Catholic beliefs requirement. I feel that the Church should focus on the reason WHY the people are breaking into the US. Instead they are focusing on Trump's policy. Frustrating. What say you Catholics? Can you help me?

Yes, it’s dumb these Catholics are bellyaching about deportation.

They don’t seem to understand what “inhumane treatment” actually is. See Gaza and how Hamas treats hostages.

Returning criminals safely to their country of origin isn’t inhumane treatment. It is inhumane to leave criminals free in your society to steal, rape and kill.

I went through RCIA myself. They taught us that there are bad priests, bad bishops, and bad popes…..but the church endures them. In order to make the church better we need to take part in it, get better people to become priests and bishops, and those types will eventually be kicked out.

Just like MAGA has made the GOP infinitely better than what it was, we can do the same with the Catholic Church. Running away to a heretical denomination only ensures your damnation for rejecting Christ and his church.

 

[1srelluc]

Catholic Charities is a huge grift NGO.....I would also say down right criminal.

Illegal Immigration and the Catholic Church: Follow the Money

Is the Church enabling criminality and facilitating the oppression of the immigrants we are hoping to help?

crisismagazine.com

 

[Thunk]

I struggle with the Believe all Catholic beliefs requirement.

So do I.

And I was born & raised roman catholic...and I still am. But the most important thing is my personal relationship with Jesus! I wont let ANYBODY stand in between that...not even a catholic priest!

I rarely go to church any more...I like the community part of church, but I don't care for the authoritarian attitudes. Or the holier than thou attitudes. However, those things are not enough to get me to turn my back on my religion. In many ways, catholics have it right.

 

[Meriweather]

I've been a regular at Mass for over 30 years. I admire the Mass & the majority of the Catechism. I am pursuing RCIA or OCIA. However, due to the position taken below & a couple of other things, I struggle with the Believe all Catholic beliefs requirement. I feel that the Church should focus on the reason WHY the people are breaking into the US. Instead they are focusing on Trump's policy. Frustrating. What say you Catholics? Can you help me?

Catholicism holds a strong belief in the separation of Church and State. President Trump's first priority is to protect and defend the United States, manage trade and transportation within the United States. Catholic Bishops should understand the President's priority is to citizens of the United States.

Here is an idea: Why not, in this area, have Church and State work together on this instead of the current willy-nilly rush across borders? The Church outside the US can help explain the need. The Church within the US can help with finding homes and employment. The government can help with the legalities that both guests and/or potential new citizens face.

Because of separation between Church and State, the Church has no right and no business telling governments they shouldn't enforce their own laws, basically commanding the State, "Here's what you should do. Here is what you should not do." They should be offering help, advice, information on what some are suffering in their homeland and why the only solution is to bring them (legally) into the U.S.

 

[MarcATL]

Know better, do better.

 

[Maxdeath]

Can not say I have much respect for the Catholic Church.
They were responsible for some of the most horrific atrocities during the inquisition. They helped Nazis escape during WW2. They convinced people to give away property and money to the church when they were dying by telling them it would be a way into heaven.
I could continue but I will let it lie there.
Every religion has bad actors.

 

[Meriweather]

Can not say I have much respect for the Catholic Church.
They were responsible for some of the most horrific atrocities during the inquisition. They helped Nazis escape during WW2. They convinced people to give away property and money when they were dying by telling them it would be a way into heaven.
I could continue but I will let it lie there.
Every religion has bad actors.

For the same reason you should not have much respect for governments, businesses, corporations--or individuals, for that matter. The Catholic Church was also responsible for the most humane and compassionate acts during the Inquisition and World War II. And so were governments, businesses, corporations, and individuals.

It is better to research/study the entire history not just the dark areas. By the way, do you only watch and read horror shows, stories, events? If not, isn't it good the embrace the total, not just the bits and pieces of the whole?

 

[Maxdeath]

For the same reason you should not have much respect for governments, businesses, corporations--or individuals, for that matter. The Catholic Church was also responsible for the most humane and compassionate acts during the Inquisition and World War II. And so were governments, businesses, corporations, and individuals.

It is better to research/study the entire history not just the dark areas. By the way, do you only watch and read horror shows, stories, events? If not, isn't it good the embrace the total, not just the bits and pieces of the whole?

I was raised catholic.
I always have problems with a lot of business, individuals and especially government.

 

[Cougarbear]

So do I.

And I was born & raised roman catholic...and I still am. But the most important thing is my personal relationship with Jesus! I wont let ANYBODY stand in between that...not even a catholic priest!

I rarely go to church any more...I like the community part of church, but I don't care for the authoritarian attitudes. Or the holier than thou attitudes. However, those things are not enough to get me to turn my back on my religion. In many ways, catholics have it right.

All churches-religions have some truth in them. But, until 1830, none have the Authority to be authoritative. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the restored Church that Jesus Christ started and stayed authoritative until the last apostle, John the Revelator left and complete world apostasy began.