Warren Blasts Elon Musk’s Government Power Grab

[daveman]

Who's auditing these billionaire oligarchs, who just want to strip the American people of as many government services as possible and then cash in, with more tax breaks and no regulations that protect the working class?

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Powerful Democrats thank you for the slavish ass-licking, but regret to inform you that their gravy train has derailed and you won't get the occasional crumb any more.

 

[Hollie]

They might end up cutting to the point of cutting you off too. Don't you get it? Their objective isn't to just cut off those things that are clearly ridiculous and wrong, but as much as possible to the point of stripping you of your benefits, the assistance your son or daughter might be receiving now, any grants your grandson is receiving for his work, any rights your children have at work, that allows them to organize and negotiate their terms of employment collectively if they choose to (strength in numbers). They will strip Americans of many of their resources and rights, you don't realize that? This is a power-grab by billionaire oligarchs, you don't see that?

Yeah, but what about the eggs? Will that resource be stripped away by the oligarchs lurking in the shadows?

 

[daveman]

How is that going to improve education in America, by defunding it? Elon Musk wants America dumb, that way he can continue doing this:

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You're just hurting yourself and your country, letting these oligarchs take control and strip you of your rights, your power as an American citizen, and your commonwealth.

DoE has not improved education. And school funding comes from states and communities.

 

[daveman]

Explain to us why Democrats want to kill this kid
Go ahead board lefties go ahead

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Because this kid, and vastly intelligent people like him, will cut off Democrats' free money that they steal from taxpayers.

 

[daveman]

You're either a paid troll or a fucking moron.

 

[daveman]

They're "useless"? Are you sure about that Todd? Elon is just trying to cut "useless" jobs while importing workers from India he can exploit. Is he the one you want doing this? Is that smart Todd?

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How much money do you get from the government, and is it legal?

Or is this just the usual slavish leftist devotion to unelected bureaucrats?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your lord Elon admits a UBI is needed. Cut cut cut cut government spending...Oh, wait, we need a UBI now, trillions yearly.

Be sure to ping me.

 

[daveman]

Todd, do you honestly believe the United States is at risk of running out of its own currency? Think about that. The U.S. government is the sole issuer of the U.S. dollar, it’s not collecting dollars from somewhere else, which means it can never be "broke" in the way you and I can. Our families, our households, we use the currency. We don’t issue it. We can go broke; the government can’t. Your fear that the "national debt" is going to bankrupt us is fucking ridiculous. The only real question is how much of our country’s unused capacity = workers, resources, factories, we want to put to use without causing inflation.

When we talk about cutting government programs because we’re supposedly “too far in debt,” it’s like saying a carpenter can’t measure any more wood because he’ll run out of inches. We use dollars to mobilize real resources to do real things, like education, infrastructure, and health care. That’s why the "national debt" could just as well be viewed as our national surplus of dollars we’ve spent into the economy but haven’t taxed back yet. You don’t want to slash programs people rely on based on a misunderstanding that we might “run out” of something we create in the first place. We need to focus on what’s possible and beneficial, how many teachers, nurses, and infrastructure projects we can fund without pushing up inflation.

Cutting vital programs in the name of “fixing the debt” makes zero sense when that so-called debt is simply the result of the federal government putting more dollars into the economy than it subtracts in taxes. Those dollars end up in people’s pockets, bank accounts, and investments. If you insist on shrinking that “debt” through austerity, you’re actually draining those dollars from the private sector and hurting people and communities. So let’s stop throwing around scary headlines about the debt and start asking how to use our resources effectively and productively. Because the problem is never about “affording” something in purely financial terms, when you issue your own currency, there’s no shortage of digits in a spreadsheet. The real constraints are workers, materials, technology, and the environment. That’s it. So no, Todd, the national debt doesn’t justify slashing government programs. We’re not running out of money.

Yeah, we can just print more. Then it'll take a whole wheelbarrow full of hundred dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread.

I wouldn't trust Democrats to run a Little League bake sale without stealing the money and putting drugs in the brownies.

 

[JustAGuy1]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

The fact you believe any of that shows a real lack intellect.

 

[The Duke]

Wait till you see Nuremberg 2.0

It will be glorious

Oh good, I wanted you to see this:

 

[daveman]

Your

Your politics is leading to that. Do you care if they lose their benefits?

You don't care about his parents. You're just mindlessly defending corrupt Democrats, like you were told to do.

Obedient sheep.

 

[The Duke]

You don't care about his parents. You're just mindlessly defending corrupt Democrats, like you were told to do.

Obedient sheep.

Medicare is tomorrow. They cannot possibly get through all that fast.
I tell ya wut, the way they've been saying it's going to go, is the way it's been going.
Teh Musk team has top clearance now.
I have no doubt mistakes will be made and have to be corrected.
See, that's where real people have it all over Democrats, we can admit when stuff isn't working then stop doing that and try something else.
DOGE team is 120 hrs a week for ..was it 180 days?
They have to move fast and efficiently. All of them should get medals already, IMO.

 

[daveman]

Copayments and deductibles are the symptoms of private healthcare insurance, not government-funded or run healthcare. We're the only country in the industrialized, modern world, that doesn't recognize healthcare as a human right and refuses to provide it to all of its citizens. We could do much better.

Nothing that requires the labor of others is a basic human right.

But then, leftists have always supported slavery.

 

[daveman]

Yes, but Elon and company (including Trump his fellow billionaire), want to cut much more than the "Soros USAID", or the "Woke-LGBTQ USAID", they'll cut programs that actually do good, like Medicaid, and FAFSA (Federal Assistance for college students)..etc. They're going to cut cut cut cut...Until they cut something that helps you or someone you care about, we'll then see how enthusiastic you are with all of that cutting.

Elon is also trying to strip American workers of their right to unionize. Elon hates labor unions, that's one of the reasons he loves hiring Indians with H-1B visas:

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He only cares about short-term profits, and to hell with the long-term consequences of not hiring Americans. He also wants to cut the Department of Education, which contributes to the education and training of Americans, to be able to work those high-tech jobs. Elon wants a dumb America, that he can exploit and capitalize on while importing cheap labor from India, which he has full control over. Those Indian employees are under his heel, terrorized by his threats of deportation. Those foreign workers, have to swallow whatever Elon wants, without question, and if they don't, they get deported.

You can stop pretending you're concerned about American workers. You supported Biden inviting in millions of illegals.

On behalf of American workers, I formally invite you to eat shit.

 

[daveman]

That's not up to Trump or Elon to decide, that has to be determined by the Supreme Court. Not you or me, or even Trump, our president. We don't live in an absolute monarchy, with a monarch determining what is Constitutional and what isn't. That's for the courts to decide, not the executive branch of government. POTUS isn't in that arena, SCOTUS is.

You were okay with Biden end-running around the Constitution.

Again, eat shit.

 

[daveman]

That's not the role of the executive branch and all that is going to happen is all of these EOs are going to be struck down by the courts and Congress. You're actually wasting money, with all of these artificial, temporary changes that are going to be rolled back the moment the true authority in that area of our system of government assesses the situation and rules the president was wrong. You can play this little TRUMP THE KING game but it's all going to get slapped down by the courts and our Congress. Enjoy your little TRUMP KING game for a while, but eventually, it's all going to get ripped up like a paper tiger. That's all this amounts to, power posturing and stuffed teddy bears, that look scary but are full of fluff.

No, you fucking stupid Democrat, your leftist organizations do NOT have the right to unlimited taxpayer money.

 

[daveman]

All you right-wing conservatives have are ad hominem attacks, nothing of substance. You just attack people personally, as if somehow that strengthens your position, when it doesn't. Ad-homs are the refuge of a weak argument. It's what people resort to when their position is indefensible with logic and good evidence.

You are an emotional child, throwing a tantrum because your toys are being taken away.

 

[daveman]

Who are the "right people"?

Democrats, naturally.

 

[daveman]

If that were the case I a socialist would join you in eliminating waste, fraud and corruption. I hate that shit, just as much as you do. The problem is that what these right-wing billionaires identify as "waste" isn't really a waste, and much (not all, but much), of what they identify as fraud and corrupt within the context of TRUMP, is bullshit.

You're a socialist. You know nothing of economics.

 

[daveman]

Auditing not just their finances but what they're doing now politically. They're now facing the courts, and a strong resistance from other branches of government, so maybe there's hope, that we're not going to become a banana republic after all. A strong opposition is rising up.

The people rising up aren't doing so for any noble cause. They want their free money and power to keep rolling in.