Warren Blasts Elon Musk’s Government Power Grab

[jc456]

Is Pocahontas so dumb as to think Musk is doing anything other than passing along his findings to the elected Trump? Or is she just intentionally lying?

Rhetorical?

 

[Contumacious]

That's not the role of the executive branch and all that is going to happen is all of these EOs are going to be struck down by the courts and Congress. You're actually wasting money, with all of these artificial, temporary changes that are going to be rolled back the moment the true authority in that area of our system of government assesses the situation and rules the president was wrong. You can play this little TRUMP THE KING game but it's all going to get slapped down by the courts and our Congress. Enjoy your little TRUMP KING game for a while, but eventually, it's all going to get ripped up like a paper tiger. That's all this amounts to, power posturing and stuffed teddy bears, that look scary but are full of fluff.

The EOs are solid.

I'm certain that they will be upheld.

 

[The Duke]

Rhetorical?

She's retarded.

 

[TruthNotBS]

YUP, the one and only

The Take Care Clause is a clause in the United States Constitution that requires the President to ensure that laws are faithfully executed. It is found in Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution.

Nope. The Take Care Clause isn’t a blank check to bypass the courts or scrap entire statutes that happen to annoy the President. It says the President must “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” not that he can arbitrarily rewrite or ignore them. The Supreme Court reinforced this in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952), where it told President Truman he couldn’t seize the steel mills without congressional authorization, even though he insisted national security demanded it. That was the Court saying: “You don’t get to do whatever you want.”

If the President really could act unilaterally to remake laws or skip judicial oversight, then the Constitution’s entire system of checks and balances would be meaningless. We wouldn’t have a separation of powers at all, we’d have exactly the kind of one-man rule the Founders loathed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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"...but what to do about mass unemployment this is going to be a massive social challenge there will be
fewer and fewer jobs that are robot cannot do better and I think ultimately we will have to have some kind of universal basic income I don't think we're going to have a choice the harder challenge much harder challenge is how do people then have meaning like a lot of people they derive their meaning from their employment if you're not needed if there's not a need for your labor how do you what's the meaning do you do you have meaning do you feel useless...."

No Elon, it's you capitalists, who aren't needed. Human labor will always be required to at the very least supervise the system. Human input and analysis will always be needed, irrespective of how advanced our automation becomes. There will always be a role for human labor, regardless if a wealthy capitalist makes a profit or not.

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He ends the last video by saying, "..so I really think we need government regulation here"..lol. Why Elon? Isn't the amazing "free market" with its self-regulating, "invisible hand", enough? You need the "gubment" to come in and regulate capitalism, even bailing it out with trillions of dollars yearly, creating an artificial, customer base, consisting of worthless, unproductive consumer serfs, living off of a "gubmint" UBI check?

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When is the vote?

 

[TruthNotBS]

The EOs are solid.

I'm certain that they will be upheld.

I doubt it, but if they last throughout his administration, they will be nullified the moment the next non-Republican president takes office. These aren't genuine reforms or changes, they're just temporary power posturing. Impermanent and fleeting.

 

[TruthNotBS]

When is the vote?

Elon says he's scared, and recognizes his need for a government UBI program. Talk to him, maybe you can provide your billionaire lord and god, some emotional support.

 

[Contumacious]

The Take Care Clause isn’t a blank check to bypass the courts or scrap entire statutes that happen to annoy the President. It says the President must “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” not that he can arbitrarily rewrite or ignore them

He takes care that the laws are faithfully executed .

Those who disagree must file lawsuit or legislate. But he does not need to consult them befire acting . Thus far he is spot on .

On the issue of Gaza I would like to see where he is going - the United States does owe the Palestinians reparations because it was one Harry S Truman who 1948 STOLE Palestine away from 1.5 million Palestinians.

 

[The Duke]

Nope. The Take Care Clause isn’t a blank check to bypass the courts or scrap entire statutes that happen to annoy the President. It says the President must “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” not that he can arbitrarily rewrite or ignore them. The Supreme Court reinforced this in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952), where it told President Truman he couldn’t seize the steel mills without congressional authorization, even though he insisted national security demanded it. That was the Court saying: “You don’t get to do whatever you want.”

If the President really could act unilaterally to remake laws or skip judicial oversight, then the Constitution’s entire system of checks and balances would be meaningless. We wouldn’t have a separation of powers at all, we’d have exactly the kind of one-man rule the Founders loathed.

STFU.
It's over for unAmerican shitTards like you. FOAD.

 

[Contumacious]

I doubt it, but if they last throughout his administration, they will be nullified the moment the next non-Republican president takes office. These aren't genuine reforms or changes, they're just temporary power posturing. Impermanent and fleeting.

I am sure that the new President Elect in 2028 , J D Vance will retain the EOs.

Socialist Demon Rats must not be allowed in DC ever again let alone in the Whitehouse.

They are treasonous seditious anti-American criminals

 

[jc456]

She's retarded.

And a liar

 

[eagle1462010]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[TruthNotBS]

He takes care that the laws are faithfully executed .

Those who disagree must file lawsuit or legislate. But he does not need to consult them befire acting . Thus far he is spot on .

On the issue of Gaza I would like to see where he is going - the United States does owe the Palestinians reparations because it was one Harry S Truman who 1948 STOLE Palestine away from 1.5 million Palestinians.

You’re still missing the point. The “Take Care” clause doesn’t hand the President a blank check to bulldoze through existing laws, ignore Congress, or fire whomever he wants without due process and then say, “Hey, if you don’t like it, sue me.” That’s not faithfully executing anything; it’s skirting the rules until a court stops him. The Constitution’s entire design is to prevent exactly that kind of “do first, litigate later” tyranny. Even if the President doesn’t “consult” Congress or the courts before acting, he’s still legally bound to follow the laws and respect the separation of powers.

Look at Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, where the Supreme Court told Truman he couldn’t seize steel mills without Congress’s blessing, or any number of rulings that limit unilateral overreach by the executive. If the President’s actions defy the law, he’s not “faithfully executing” anything. He’s breaking the law, period. The Constitution doesn’t say, “He can do whatever the hell he wants, and people can file a lawsuit later if they disagree.” It says he must abide by the law, written by Congress, enforced by the executive, and interpreted by the judiciary. You can keep ignoring practically everything I say and repeating your error, but it doesn't make it so.

 

[Contumacious]

You’re still missing the point. The “Take Care” clause doesn’t hand the President a blank check to bulldoze through existing laws, ignore Congress, or fire whomever he wants without due process and then say

That is PRECISELY what it does

 

[TruthNotBS]

I am sure that the new President Elect in 2028 , J D Vance will retain the EOs.

Socialist Demon Rats must not be allowed in DC ever again let alone in the Whitehouse.

They are treasonous seditious anti-American criminals

A tsunami of socialism is coming, thanks to Trump. The future of this country is socialist. Trump and Elon are ensuring that occurs.

 

[Contumacious]

A tsunami of socialism is coming, thanks to Trump. The future of this country is socialist. Trump and Elon are ensuring that occurs.

My understanding is that there are millions of folks ready and willing to show you guys a real insurrection.

 

[The Duke]

 

[The Duke]

A tsunami of socialism is coming, thanks to Trump. The future of this country is socialist. Trump and Elon are ensuring that occurs.

You're outta your rabid-ass rat mind, commie shill
You don't know because you were cheated on your education.
I bet you didn't have a Civics class, huh?
That's a real problem with people like you, these people that want to kill humanity have gotten
into the education system and fucked your way of thinking up. It was not like that for over 2 centuries in America.
And then some, because tradition and institution.

 

[TruthNotBS]

My understanding is that there are millions of folks ready and willing to show you guys a real insurrection.