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No. Sorry let me dumb this down for you. I can prove that you are a mindless drone who doesn't think for yourself but rather, has the RW sources tell you what to think.
No. Sorry let me dumb this down for you. I can prove that you are a mindless drone who doesn't think for yourself but rather, has the RW sources tell you what to think.
Look, you're a leftist - which means you're not very bright.
But you made an assertion, you claimed that the Ukraine has better medical care than the USA.
Because you made a positive assertion, the onus (look it up, moron) is upon you to support your claim. I have no need to "prove you wrong," sparky.
No. Sorry let me dumb this down for you. I can prove that you are a mindless drone who doesn't think for yourself but rather, has the RW sources tell you what to think.
Look, you're a leftist - which means you're not very bright.
But you made an assertion, you claimed that the Ukraine has better medical care than the USA.
Because you made a positive assertion, the onus (look it up, moron) is upon you to support your claim. I have no need to "prove you wrong," sparky.
In the Ukraine, everyone gets basic care. It's not great. hell, it's not even that good but it's available to everyone regardless of income. But you can buy private insurance to get better care. That's better than what we have. If you're really poor, you can get health care. But if you make $20K or whatever the poverty line is, you make too much to get basic coverage for yourself and your kids. no check ups or basic care.
So in that regard, it's better. not in every way. just as NO country is better in every way. But they don't have tens of thousands of people filing bankruptcy every year because someone got hurt or sick.
As far as you being a mindless drone and me NOT being a Leftist, this is easy to prove.
A mindless drone does not base the term "Leftist" or "Liberal" based on another person's political beliefs. They apply this label to anyone disagreeing with them on anything. They define an "Independent" as someone who has all Conservative views. Hello! Idiot! That's called a "Conservative".
So a "Leftist" would have views that are consistently or overwhelmingly "Left" or "Liberal". To an ignorant whackjob, political views ae irrelevant when applying political labels.
So you are a mindless drone, not because you're Conservative - I have lots of intelligent friends who are Conservative - but because you are so ill-equipped to deal with non-conformity to what you've been told to believe, you instantly label anyone displaying such non-conformity out of ignorance.
Look, you're a leftist - which means you're not very bright.
But you made an assertion, you claimed that the Ukraine has better medical care than the USA.
Because you made a positive assertion, the onus (look it up, moron) is upon you to support your claim. I have no need to "prove you wrong," sparky.
In the Ukraine, everyone gets basic care. It's not great. hell, it's not even that good but it's available to everyone regardless of income. But you can buy private insurance to get better care. That's better than what we have. If you're really poor, you can get health care. But if you make $20K or whatever the poverty line is, you make too much to get basic coverage for yourself and your kids. no check ups or basic care.
So in that regard, it's better. not in every way. just as NO country is better in every way. But they don't have tens of thousands of people filing bankruptcy every year because someone got hurt or sick.
As far as you being a mindless drone and me NOT being a Leftist, this is easy to prove.
A mindless drone does not base the term "Leftist" or "Liberal" based on another person's political beliefs. They apply this label to anyone disagreeing with them on anything. They define an "Independent" as someone who has all Conservative views. Hello! Idiot! That's called a "Conservative".
So a "Leftist" would have views that are consistently or overwhelmingly "Left" or "Liberal". To an ignorant whackjob, political views ae irrelevant when applying political labels.
So you are a mindless drone, not because you're Conservative - I have lots of intelligent friends who are Conservative - but because you are so ill-equipped to deal with non-conformity to what you've been told to believe, you instantly label anyone displaying such non-conformity out of ignorance.
I don't call all crazy people leftists, though all leftists are crazy....
Here we have YET ANOTHER long, blathering post whining about what people "think".
You don't know what anyone thinks..not only have you never had a thought of your own, you can't read minds.
So please lay off the acid and try to apply yourself to real world issues. You know, things that actually happen, or things that can be discussed rationally.
You idiot, you just posted a long rambling diatribe attacking not just about one, but a myriad, of unnamed posters.
And I was bored with your stupid "sure we do it but so do you" schtick a really long time ago. You're just another leftist posing as a centrist who is too lazy to actually tackle any topic (that would require research, or knowledge, horrors) and so blathers away about how everybody is equally to blame for everything.
You're one of about a half dozen on this site. Go join your blindfolded and ignorant crowd dressed in black trench coats and piss and moan amongst yourselves. You aren't up to actually debating an issue.
yeah we knew that. You go into threads doing exactly what you betch and whine about Liberals doing. You're exactly like Rdean or RightWingaFraud.
In the Ukraine, everyone gets basic care. It's not great. hell, it's not even that good but it's available to everyone regardless of income.
But you can buy private insurance to get better care. That's better than what we have.
If you're really poor, you can get health care. But if you make $20K or whatever the poverty line is, you make too much to get basic coverage for yourself and your kids. no check ups or basic care.
So in that regard, it's better. not in every way. just as NO country is better in every way. But they don't have tens of thousands of people filing bankruptcy every year because someone got hurt or sick.
As far as you being a mindless drone and me NOT being a Leftist, this is easy to prove.
A mindless drone does not base the term "Leftist" or "Liberal" based on another person's political beliefs. They apply this label to anyone disagreeing with them on anything.
They define an "Independent" as someone who has all Conservative views. Hello! Idiot! That's called a "Conservative".
So a "Leftist" would have views that are consistently or overwhelmingly "Left" or "Liberal". To an ignorant whackjob, political views ae irrelevant when applying political labels.
So you are a mindless drone, not because you're Conservative - I have lots of intelligent friends who are Conservative - but because you are so ill-equipped to deal with non-conformity to what you've been told to believe, you instantly label anyone displaying such non-conformity out of ignorance.
You idiot, you just posted a long rambling diatribe attacking not just about one, but a myriad, of unnamed posters.
And I was bored with your stupid "sure we do it but so do you" schtick a really long time ago. You're just another leftist posing as a centrist who is too lazy to actually tackle any topic (that would require research, or knowledge, horrors) and so blathers away about how everybody is equally to blame for everything.
You're one of about a half dozen on this site. Go join your blindfolded and ignorant crowd dressed in black trench coats and piss and moan amongst yourselves. You aren't up to actually debating an issue.
Ah. So you're a liar and just got busted!
And of course, I've bitch slapped your butt so many times on issues, it's gotten under your skin. Which is exactly why you comes into threads and don't discuss issues or topics, you just whine about me. People who are too weak and stupid to debate the issues and topics, go into threads and ignore them. They just post really stupid shet like "Ohhh, he's neither independent nor logical! Aren't i clever!"
Now move along little girl. You're owned. I can prove you do what you whine about the Libs doing and you know it.
In the Ukraine, everyone gets basic care. It's not great. hell, it's not even that good but it's available to everyone regardless of income.
You know sparky, the Obama big lie is that not everyone in the USA has insurance, even he won't try to claim people don't have care.
STEEERRRIKE ONE.
Um. hmmm. The Stupid scale goes rather high here. Let me try to put this in little words for you: Not everyone in the USA has insurance.
Really, how stupid does a person have to be to think that everyone in the USA has insurance.
But you can buy private insurance to get better care. That's better than what we have.
Yep, no one can buy insurance in the USA - it just doesn't exist....
STEEERRRIKE TWO.
Wow. Again off the charts in stupidity. I won't even try to explain as obviously you are a few cars short of a full parking lot.
Bullshit.
Free/Low-Cost/Sliding-Scale Clinics
STEEERRRIKE THREE.
Another Obamabot goes down....
Okay, the level of stupid just set a new record. You claim that everyone has free health care - then provide a link that shows that people have to pay to get health care. Wow.
Yet what you claim is demonstrably not true.
Oh, you already DID sparky.
Being an Obamabot doesn't make you a leftists... At least ThinkProgress told you it didn't....
You know sparky, you're a rather dull-witted little troll, but you do grasp that WHAT we disagree on are political issues, doncha?
Yes, I disagree with the Democratic Underground hating points that you spew - but that kind of DOES make you a leftist...
They define an "Independent" as someone who has all Conservative views. Hello! Idiot! That's called a "Conservative".
Yawn.
And someone like you, who regurgitates the hating points from DailyKOS is properly termed "a leftist."
So a "Leftist" would have views that are consistently or overwhelmingly "Left" or "Liberal". To an ignorant whackjob, political views ae irrelevant when applying political labels.
So you are a mindless drone, not because you're Conservative - I have lots of intelligent friends who are Conservative - but because you are so ill-equipped to deal with non-conformity to what you've been told to believe, you instantly label anyone displaying such non-conformity out of ignorance.
You oppose political labels. you believe whatever Obama declares, and he is god, so above politics...
I understand.
It doesn't matter what they say, Foxy. They are liars and they are motivated to hide their true agenda.
It's also a lie to pretend you are centrist, when in reality, you aren't....
Here's one:
Conversation between my husband and our dope smoking painter today:
Hubby - Hey buddy, Obama wants your social security number.
Stoner - Fuck Obama.
Hubby - Fuck Obama? I would have sworn you would have voted for him.
Stoner - Shit yeah. Obama's the man!
Hubby - But he wants you to file taxes.
Stoner - Fuck Obama.
Hubby - Who you voting for in 2012?
Stoner - Obama's the man!
Hard to argue with that eh?
Trying to hide from your ideology only makes you look more of what you self deny.The reason I mentioned The Ukraine is simply because I used to live there. And Austria and Canada and Mexico and Peru. So tell me Gomer, where exactly have you lived that gives you such expertise on a public option? Yeah, thought so. Internet "experts" are so amusing.
So sparky, do feel free to list all of those packing up for care in the Ukraine?
What? You've got nothing?
Ohh, you're inviting me to prove a negative?
What a surprise...
Say sparky, here is a novel idea, hows about you prove your assertion?
No. Sorry let me dumb this down for you. I can prove that you are a mindless drone who doesn't think for yourself but rather, has the RW sources tell you what to think. I can also prove that I have as many (or close to) Conservative views as I do Liberal because I DO think for myself. Those are both posities junior. You call anyone disageeing with you a "Leftist" because it's all you have. It's not like you have fact, tatitics, direct knowledge etc... to back you up.
Because none of those things are relevant to the workings of a free market on any scale, which existed in the realm of the delivery of medical services in the 1950s far more so than it does today.Hmmm. Should I whine about the personal attack? Nah. Not my style. So how exactly is the increase in population and change in demographics from the 1950's a strawman argument? Please specify. Oh wait. You don't do that.
But if I were as committed to trying to prove to everyone what a genius I am as you are, I'd probably want to divert from little details like that, too.
Regarding the genius thing, it's not my fault that you have an inferiority complex and therefore project this onto others. Psychologists refer this as "transference". Since you feel so insecure, you transfer the source of the negative emotions to those to whom you see as the source of those insecurities. While I am secure with my intellect, there are a lot of highly intelligent people here. It's not my fault that you're not one of them.
Regarding the change in demographics etc... since the 1950's, this is obviously beyond your ken if you think that the delivery of a product or service is never effected by such factors in a free market. When you are able to think beyond the cute little bumper sticker phrases and slogans that have been spoon-fed to you, you'll be better equipped to discuss them.
A truly free market has almost never existed, nor will it and for good reason. A truly free market is completely unregulated - sort of ConservaRepub / Libertarian's dream. Of course with all that freedom for corporations comes a few downsides. Envrionmental disasters, dangerous or even lethal products, child labor and so on. So the Libetarian blabber about a "free market" being the panacea to all our woes is pure nonsense. No industrialized nation in the world has ever been so stupid as to be purely capitalist. Without at least minimal social protection, we'd all be living in Uganda. But hey, you're welcome to tell me how a company would cease to exist if it harmed consumers or employees!
It's also a lie to pretend you are centrist, when in reality, you aren't....
Unless they don't know what a centrist is but have been told that's what they are. Every stupid or ignorant person is not necessaryily a liar. You gotta cut these people some slack.
This proves that the OP is only partially right because the weaker, more stupid Conservatives do exactly what the OP claims Liberals do.
