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By the way,
Bush
January 2001 employed 135,999,000
January 2009 employed 142,099,000
added jobs in 8 years 6,100,000
average of jobs per year 762,500
Obama
January 2009 employed 142,099,000
May 2013 employed 143,898,000
added jobs in 4.41 yrs 1,799,000
average of jobs per year 407,936
By the way, you are spreading outright lies.
Bush, total jobs created in 8 years: Negative 673,000
Obama created more private sector jobs in his first 6 months, than bush did during his entire presidency.
Obama would have not invaded a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11/01 Terrorist Attacks wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and costing thousands of lives in the process.
That's pretty much a given.
Had Obama lost in 08, we'd still be there.
As for the economic collapse, Bush's administration had a large hand in that through refusing to regulate the banking industry so no points there.
You are right! Obama would NOT have authorized EVEN though Congress passed legislation based on the broken 1991 Cease Fire that your friend Saddam did after signing the 1991 Cease fire!
You are right that Obama would have continued the sanctions that were starving 50,000 Iraqis a year because Obama couldn't say no to Saddam who would be laughing all the time at the bowing and scraping forgiveness Obama!
You are right! Obama would have blamed Americans for being such supporters of Israel and blame Israel for firing back in response to the 1,000s of missiles fired on them!
You are right! Obama wouldn't care that the people of Mesopotamia.. legendary Biblical Garden of Eden was being destroyed ecologically by Saddam in retribution for the 500,000
people that opposed him!
You are right! Obama would blame our military .. after all as a Senator he said that our military methodically and systematically were "air-raiding villages and killing civilians" ALL THE TIME!!
You are right. Obama has NO respect for keeping agreements or promises! SO Yes... 50,000 people a year would starve!
You are right. Obama would be just as you are, "OK" with Saddam's sons Uday and Qusay Hussein used electric drills on people while cutting out their tongues?
The inhumane reign of Saddam Hussein: Pt. 5 - The London Times + (UK free press)
You are right! Obama would have done NOTHING to help starving people, 28 million people have free elections.. (Obama admired Saddam for getting 100% of the votes)!
I see that the conservative syndrome of hearing what you want to hear continues unabated.
You must have been pissed that Reagan didn't invade Russia, can you answer that truthfully? Russia didn't have free elections and starving people. So by your logic, we should have invaded Russia back in the 1980's right?
Yes or no.
I own you. The way I know it is because you can't answer, honestly. It's okay, you're a conservative and honesty isn't your strong suit.
By the way,
Bush
January 2001 employed 135,999,000
January 2009 employed 142,099,000
added jobs in 8 years 6,100,000
average of jobs per year 762,500
Obama
January 2009 employed 142,099,000
May 2013 employed 143,898,000
added jobs in 4.41 yrs 1,799,000
average of jobs per year 407,936
By the way, you are spreading outright lies.
Bush, total jobs created in 8 years: Negative 673,000
Obama created more private sector jobs in his first 6 months, than bush did during his entire presidency.
no, thinkprogress is spreading outright lies. I used the figures from the archived employment situation reports. Household data, dear. A prime example of why not to believe anything you read from a bias source.
Except the alternative measures under Reagan were completely different. The U6 under Reagan was unemployed looking for full-time work plus 1/2 of the Unemployed looking for part time work plus 1/2 of those working part-time for economic reasons as a percent of the Labor Force minus 1/2 the part time labor force.
The U6 since 1994 is Unemployed plus marginally attached plus part-time for economic reasons as a percent of the Labor Force plus marginally attached.
All the changes to unemployment calculations is why you can't use that stupid number as a comparison. The best comparison is the employment to population ratio because it has not been changed & unemployed people don't just disappear from that. The EMRATIO chart I posted proves Reagan, Bush-1 & Clinton created a lot of jobs.
Pap Bush was by far the most effective, most strategic-thinking president after IKE.
Plus he had actually worked with some real conservatives.
And as quick as he took the oath he began to undo voodoo economic policy.
For which NeoCon scum bailed on him when Perot surfaced.
No recent president is in the same world.
The topic is most months below 6%!
Obama would have not invaded a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11/01 Terrorist Attacks wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and costing thousands of lives in the process.
That's pretty much a given.
Had Obama lost in 08, we'd still be there.
As for the economic collapse, Bush's administration had a large hand in that through refusing to regulate the banking industry so no points there.
The whole "It's all Frank's fault!" is downright laughable and one of the biggest jokes of an excuse from those on the far right.
W and the GOP implemented their "less regulation!" policies on the big bankers, allowing them to run wild giving out predatory loans.
The same thing happened with big oil when W and the GOP approved the deep sea drilling that caused the Gulf oil spill disaster.
How did Nancy and Reid do on their oversight of the economy, employment, purse strings and what turned out to be the "housing bubble" after they took over the House and Senate the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency in your opinion?
Do you really believe Bush wanted the Gulf oil disaster?
They did excellent to stop W and the GOP garbage in their tracks from their out of control spending and destruction of the county. If they didn't take over when they did, the nation would likely be in complete shambles.
Also yes, W ignored warnings about the dangers of deep sea drilling, but didn't care and let his big oil cronies run wild just like the bankers.
The housing market crash and the gulf oil spill are two perfect examples of what happens when the GOP gets their way with letting the big corporations do whatever the hell they feel like doing.
By the way, you are spreading outright lies.
Bush, total jobs created in 8 years: Negative 673,000
Obama created more private sector jobs in his first 6 months, than bush did during his entire presidency.
no, thinkprogress is spreading outright lies. I used the figures from the archived employment situation reports. Household data, dear. A prime example of why not to believe anything you read from a bias source.
Bush didn't leave office with a total of negative 673,000 jobs?
If you think otherwise, you must be some brainwashed moron, or "the archived employment situation reports" is actually "A bunch of shit made up by Beck that I like because I'm a stupid right wing moron that believes anything my masters tell me"
oh, really? Since my source is the government, you might want to rethink that...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/history/empsit_02022001.txt
page 3 Jan 2001 Employment 135,999,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_02062009.pdf
page 2 Jan 2009 Employment 142,099,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_06072013.pdf
page 4 May 2013 143,898,000
oh, really? Since my source is the government, you might want to rethink that...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/history/empsit_02022001.txt
page 3 Jan 2001 Employment 135,999,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_02062009.pdf
page 2 Jan 2009 Employment 142,099,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_06072013.pdf
page 4 May 2013 143,898,000
?
Are you adding this properly? This would seems like a relatively simple thing to do no matter how meaningless it is devoid of other factors.
From what you posted, he started 2001 with 135,999,000 and ended with Jan 2009 with 142,099,000.
142,099,000 135,999,000 is 6,100,000 POSITIVE JOBS
Ending Jobs---Starting Jobs
Where are you getting the loss from your data?
---------------------------------------------------NEVER MIND--------------------------------------------------
I was confusing the quotes and what you were getting at. I thought you were trying to reinforce
the negative numbers in the graphic not dispute them.
Obama would have not invaded a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11/01 Terrorist Attacks wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and costing thousands of lives in the process.
That's pretty much a given.
Had Obama lost in 08, we'd still be there.
As for the economic collapse, Bush's administration had a large hand in that through refusing to regulate the banking industry so no points there.
Had Obama lost in 08 nothing in Iraq would likely be different. We did not even leave because Obama, we left because we could not obtain another SOFA, something that Obama was trying to get.
By the way, they might tell you that we are not there but that is bullshit. We are STILL there, just in a smaller force.
Based on the biggest, most corrupt real estate bubble EVER...How'd that work out? PFFFFT!!
oh, really? Since my source is the government, you might want to rethink that...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/history/empsit_02022001.txt
page 3 Jan 2001 Employment 135,999,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_02062009.pdf
page 2 Jan 2009 Employment 142,099,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_06072013.pdf
page 4 May 2013 143,898,000
?
Are you adding this properly? This would seems like a relatively simple thing to do no matter how meaningless it is devoid of other factors.
From what you posted, he started 2001 with 135,999,000 and ended with Jan 2009 with 142,099,000.
142,099,000 – 135,999,000 is 6,100,000 POSITIVE JOBS
Ending Jobs---Starting Jobs
Where are you getting the loss from your data?
---------------------------------------------------NEVER MIND--------------------------------------------------
I was confusing the quotes and what you were getting at. I thought you were trying to reinforce
the negative numbers in the graphic – not dispute them.
that's ok, at least you were able to verify my numbers for black label.
They did excellent to stop W and the GOP garbage in their tracks from their out of control spending and destruction of the county. If they didn't take over when they did, the nation would likely be in complete shambles.
Also yes, W ignored warnings about the dangers of deep sea drilling, but didn't care and let his big oil cronies run wild just like the bankers.
The housing market crash and the gulf oil spill are two perfect examples of what happens when the GOP gets their way with letting the big corporations do whatever the hell they feel like doing.
I find you quite delusional and happy to be so...I'll just move along.
Please do, it was fun to put you in your place
Obama would have not invaded a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11/01 Terrorist Attacks wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and costing thousands of lives in the process.
That's pretty much a given.
Had Obama lost in 08, we'd still be there.
As for the economic collapse, Bush's administration had a large hand in that through refusing to regulate the banking industry so no points there.
Had Obama lost in 08 nothing in Iraq would likely be different. We did not even leave because Obama, we left because we could not obtain another SOFA, something that Obama was trying to get.
By the way, they might tell you that we are not there but that is bullshit. We are STILL there, just in a smaller force.
Not according to John McCain.
Sorry, those are the facts.
AA - good catch.
The Bush admin tried to roll back the power of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Bawwwney was one of the main body shields preventing that.
For anyone who really wants to understand the culprits who created the housing crisis, I highly recommend reading "Reckless Endangerment".
So, you want to look at B data, rather than total jobs. Well, sure , it looks like that BUT?
Are you adding this properly? This would seems like a relatively simple thing to do no matter how meaningless it is devoid of other factors.
From what you posted, he started 2001 with 135,999,000 and ended with Jan 2009 with 142,099,000.
142,099,000 135,999,000 is 6,100,000 POSITIVE JOBS
Ending Jobs---Starting Jobs
Where are you getting the loss from your data?
---------------------------------------------------NEVER MIND--------------------------------------------------
I was confusing the quotes and what you were getting at. I thought you were trying to reinforce
the negative numbers in the graphic not dispute them.
that's ok, at least you were able to verify my numbers for black label.
Yep, you are one stupid fucking idiot. Did you even read your own links?
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: JANUARY 2009 Nonfarm payroll employment fell sharply in January (-598,000) and the unemployment rate rose from 7.2 to 7.6 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Payroll employment has declined by 3.6 million since the start of the recession in December 2007; about one-half of this decline occurred in the past 3 months. In January, job losses were large and wi despread across nearly all major industry sector
Manufacturing employment fell by 207,000 in January, the largest 1-month decline since October 1982.
In January, durable goods manufacturing lost 157,000 jobs, with notable decreases in fabricated metal products
(-37,000), motor vehicles and parts (-31,000), and machinery (-22,000). Employment in nondurable goods manufacturing declined by 50,000 over the month
The private sector got absolutely destroyed under W and the GOP, though as usual and I predicted, right wing hacks like yourself just look at what you want to see, make up lies, and ignore the truth.
Look at the statistics for the private sector, your supposed excuse for "job creation" are government jobs W was creating left and right to try and save face like expanding on his huge government DHS and TSA, "fluff" positions to their cronies, and other taxpayer wasting BS.
The only jobs W and the GOP could create, were government jobs by using taxpayer funds to bankroll their huge government oversight organizations.
Obama would have not invaded a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11/01 Terrorist Attacks wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and costing thousands of lives in the process.
That's pretty much a given.
Had Obama lost in 08, we'd still be there.
As for the economic collapse, Bush's administration had a large hand in that through refusing to regulate the banking industry so no points there.
Which U.S. President had the most months of below 6% unemployment?
ANSWER: George W. Bush - During the 96 months that George Bush was president, 83 of those months saw the country experience unemployment that was below 6%. No other President in U.S. history has a higher total! In second and third place are Eisenhower with 79 and Clinton with 76.
