Why most conservatives don't trust the MSM...

[Uncensored2008]

Sorry Li'l Kim, your beloved dictator will grovel like a dog before Trump.

Does that make you angry Fawn? Your emperor is a little bitch

^^^^^^ - Fawn's "glorious leader."

 

[Faun]

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That’s because Obama inherited a trillion dollar deficit along with a massive recession and falling revenue which added to it. Whereas Obama handed trump a good economy with rising revenue. There’s no reason for s $2 trillion deficit in a good economy.

Right, but when ISIS barry turned it over to Trump the budget was balanced...

Oh wait, Barry added $10 trillion to the debt and massively increased the deficit.



Li'l Kim, you may be a fraud and a liar, but hey, at least you're a worthless pile of shit.

You know you're insane, right? Obama did not massively increase the deficit. His first budget was shared with Bush because Bush didn't even hand him a budget. Bush signed a continuing resolution for the first half of FY2009. The projected deficit by then was already $1.2 trillion. Obama took over from there. His last budget produced a deficit of $671 billion.

Take notice, in particular, to what Trump's first budget is doing to the national debt. That figure is annualized based on the debt so far this year from (10/1/2017 - 12/31/2017) + (1/1/2018 - current). I separated it by debt increases before and after Trump's tax cuts went into effect.

Total annual debt by budgets:

2001:   133,285,202,313 (Clinton)
2002:   420,772,553,397 (Bush)
2003:   554,995,097,146 (Bush)
2004:   595,821,633,587 (Bush)
2005:   553,656,965,393 (Bush)
2006:   574,264,237,492 (Bush)
2007:   500,679,473,047 (Bush)
2008: 1,017,071,524,650 (Bush)
2009: 1,885,104,106,599 (Bush/Obama)
2010: 1,651,794,027,380 (Obama)
2011: 1,228,717,297,665 (Obama)
2012: 1,275,901,078,829 (Obama)
2013:   671,942,119,312 (Obama)
2014: 1,085,887,854,037 (Obama)
2015:   326,546,285,751 (Obama)
2016: 1,422,827,047,452 (Obama)
2017:   671,455,302,117 (Obama)
2018: 2,173,830,537,327 (Trump - on track)

 

[Faun]

Sorry Li'l Kim, your beloved dictator will grovel like a dog before Trump.

Does that make you angry Fawn? Your emperor is a little bitch

^^^^^^ - Fawn's "glorious leader."

LOLOL

You live in a world of complete dementia, ya fruit-loop dingus.

In reality, this is my "glorious leader:...

 

[Faun]

Overall, do you approve or disapprove of President Trump's job performance?
Approve
303,305(55%)

Disapprove
238,910(44%)

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Approve
306,782(56%)

Disapprove
236,221(43%)

Do you approve of his job handling the U.S. economy?
Approve
311,439(57%)

Disapprove
227,233(42%)

Do you approve of his handling of immigration?
Approve
304,602(56%)

Disapprove
235,142(43%)



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LOLOL

An unscientific online poll on a conservative website, and all Trump can get is 55%??

 

[danielpalos]

Sorry Li'l Kim, your beloved dictator will grovel like a dog before Trump.

Does that make you angry Fawn? Your emperor is a little bitch

^^^^^^ - Fawn's "glorious leader."

LOLOL

You live in a world of complete dementia, ya fruit-loop dingus.

In reality, this is my "glorious leader:...

Mountain Division stuff!

 

[Rambunctious]

LOLOL

An unscientific online poll on a conservative website, and all Trump can get is 55%??

Poor little faunny....

 

[AZGAL]

A mix of dumb phone obsessed idiots with no experience and no understanding of history dole out stupid MSM "news" stories: WOW YOUR NEWS IS SERVED!

 

[AZGAL]

 

[healthmyths]

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That’s because Obama inherited a trillion dollar deficit along with a massive recession and falling revenue which added to it. Whereas Obama handed trump a good economy with rising revenue. There’s no reason for s $2 trillion deficit in a good economy.

Right, but when ISIS barry turned it over to Trump the budget was balanced...

Oh wait, Barry added $10 trillion to the debt and massively increased the deficit.



Li'l Kim, you may be a fraud and a liar, but hey, at least you're a worthless pile of shit.

You know you're insane, right? Obama did not massively increase the deficit. His first budget was shared with Bush because Bush didn't even hand him a budget. Bush signed a continuing resolution for the first half of FY2009. The projected deficit by then was already $1.2 trillion. Obama took over from there. His last budget produced a deficit of $671 billion.

Take notice, in particular, to what Trump's first budget is doing to the national debt. That figure is annualized based on the debt so far this year from (10/1/2017 - 12/31/2017) + (1/1/2018 - current). I separated it by debt increases before and after Trump's tax cuts went into effect.

Total annual debt by budgets:

2001:   133,285,202,313 (Clinton)
2002:   420,772,553,397 (Bush)
2003:   554,995,097,146 (Bush)
2004:   595,821,633,587 (Bush)
2005:   553,656,965,393 (Bush)
2006:   574,264,237,492 (Bush)
2007:   500,679,473,047 (Bush)
2008: 1,017,071,524,650 (Bush)
2009: 1,885,104,106,599 (Bush/Obama)
2010: 1,651,794,027,380 (Obama)
2011: 1,228,717,297,665 (Obama)
2012: 1,275,901,078,829 (Obama)
2013:   671,942,119,312 (Obama)
2014: 1,085,887,854,037 (Obama)
2015:   326,546,285,751 (Obama)
2016: 1,422,827,047,452 (Obama)
2017:   671,455,302,117 (Obama)
2018: 2,173,830,537,327 (Trump - on track)

And Obama had NONE of these events which NO other president has ever faced during their 8 years and totally ignorant people like YOU have forgotten!
PLUS dummy... TARP which made up $600B of GWB 2009 budget was PAID BACK WITH A PROFIT of $84 billion and YOU NEVER ADDED THAT figure to Obama's enormous
DEBT addition! Obama added nearly $10 Trillion or almost equal to the 5 previous presidents added.

 

[Faun]

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That’s because Obama inherited a trillion dollar deficit along with a massive recession and falling revenue which added to it. Whereas Obama handed trump a good economy with rising revenue. There’s no reason for s $2 trillion deficit in a good economy.

Right, but when ISIS barry turned it over to Trump the budget was balanced...

Oh wait, Barry added $10 trillion to the debt and massively increased the deficit.



Li'l Kim, you may be a fraud and a liar, but hey, at least you're a worthless pile of shit.

You know you're insane, right? Obama did not massively increase the deficit. His first budget was shared with Bush because Bush didn't even hand him a budget. Bush signed a continuing resolution for the first half of FY2009. The projected deficit by then was already $1.2 trillion. Obama took over from there. His last budget produced a deficit of $671 billion.

Take notice, in particular, to what Trump's first budget is doing to the national debt. That figure is annualized based on the debt so far this year from (10/1/2017 - 12/31/2017) + (1/1/2018 - current). I separated it by debt increases before and after Trump's tax cuts went into effect.

Total annual debt by budgets:

2001:   133,285,202,313 (Clinton)
2002:   420,772,553,397 (Bush)
2003:   554,995,097,146 (Bush)
2004:   595,821,633,587 (Bush)
2005:   553,656,965,393 (Bush)
2006:   574,264,237,492 (Bush)
2007:   500,679,473,047 (Bush)
2008: 1,017,071,524,650 (Bush)
2009: 1,885,104,106,599 (Bush/Obama)
2010: 1,651,794,027,380 (Obama)
2011: 1,228,717,297,665 (Obama)
2012: 1,275,901,078,829 (Obama)
2013:   671,942,119,312 (Obama)
2014: 1,085,887,854,037 (Obama)
2015:   326,546,285,751 (Obama)
2016: 1,422,827,047,452 (Obama)
2017:   671,455,302,117 (Obama)
2018: 2,173,830,537,327 (Trump - on track)

And Obama had NONE of these events which NO other president has ever faced during their 8 years and totally ignorant people like YOU have forgotten!
PLUS dummy... TARP which made up $600B of GWB 2009 budget was PAID BACK WITH A PROFIT of $84 billion and YOU NEVER ADDED THAT figure to Obama's enormous
DEBT addition! Obama added nearly $10 Trillion or almost equal to the 5 previous presidents added.
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You’re still lying since you’ve been shown that all of those events under Bush combined still pale in comparison to the trillions of dollars lost under Obama because of Bush’s Great Recession.

 

[joaquinmiller]

They don't trust the MSM because they've been in the tank for the democrats since the late 70's. Foxnews upset the apple cart on October 7, 1996 when it introduced the OTHER side of the news.

Republicans have been running against the media since 1962. You can look it up - probably courtesy of the media. How many times has the media told you that Donald Trump says the media is lying?

 

[joaquinmiller]

They lie...the news media has an agenda and it doesn't favor conservatism...If you can't see it's favoritism of anything liberal it's because you don't want to...or you are as stupid as that chick Faun...^^^^^

The media have an agenda - to sell advertising and make money. Where you been the past few hundred years?

 

[joaquinmiller]

They don't trust the MSM because they've been in the tank for the democrats since the late 70's. Foxnews upset the apple cart on October 7, 1996 when it introduced the OTHER side of the news.

They don’t trust the MSM because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear. They trust FOX, even though FOX is the least trustworthy news source there is, and people who watch FOX are the least informed viewers in America, because FOX tells conservatives what they want to hear.

Where is your link saying Fox is least trustworthy? Why in the hell should any one believe you? Where are your facts?
I put up links to the article at least do some scholarly research before spouting a totally unsubstantiated uninformed comment!
GEEZ it is truly people like you that the MSM loves to keep STUPID!

Do you honestly believe there is an MSM conspiracy to keep people stupid?

 

[joaquinmiller]

All that fancy talk and can you explain why liberals were sampled at 3 times the rate of conservatives?

But no, there IS NO BIAS in the media. Sure there isn't.

That would be why Bernie Goldberg wrote a book entitled "BIAS" from working at CBS for decades.

It was "voluntary". Jesus H.

 

[healthmyths]

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That’s because Obama inherited a trillion dollar deficit along with a massive recession and falling revenue which added to it. Whereas Obama handed trump a good economy with rising revenue. There’s no reason for s $2 trillion deficit in a good economy.

Right, but when ISIS barry turned it over to Trump the budget was balanced...

Oh wait, Barry added $10 trillion to the debt and massively increased the deficit.



Li'l Kim, you may be a fraud and a liar, but hey, at least you're a worthless pile of shit.

You know you're insane, right? Obama did not massively increase the deficit. His first budget was shared with Bush because Bush didn't even hand him a budget. Bush signed a continuing resolution for the first half of FY2009. The projected deficit by then was already $1.2 trillion. Obama took over from there. His last budget produced a deficit of $671 billion.

Take notice, in particular, to what Trump's first budget is doing to the national debt. That figure is annualized based on the debt so far this year from (10/1/2017 - 12/31/2017) + (1/1/2018 - current). I separated it by debt increases before and after Trump's tax cuts went into effect.

Total annual debt by budgets:

2001:   133,285,202,313 (Clinton)
2002:   420,772,553,397 (Bush)
2003:   554,995,097,146 (Bush)
2004:   595,821,633,587 (Bush)
2005:   553,656,965,393 (Bush)
2006:   574,264,237,492 (Bush)
2007:   500,679,473,047 (Bush)
2008: 1,017,071,524,650 (Bush)
2009: 1,885,104,106,599 (Bush/Obama)
2010: 1,651,794,027,380 (Obama)
2011: 1,228,717,297,665 (Obama)
2012: 1,275,901,078,829 (Obama)
2013:   671,942,119,312 (Obama)
2014: 1,085,887,854,037 (Obama)
2015:   326,546,285,751 (Obama)
2016: 1,422,827,047,452 (Obama)
2017:   671,455,302,117 (Obama)
2018: 2,173,830,537,327 (Trump - on track)

And Obama had NONE of these events which NO other president has ever faced during their 8 years and totally ignorant people like YOU have forgotten!
PLUS dummy... TARP which made up $600B of GWB 2009 budget was PAID BACK WITH A PROFIT of $84 billion and YOU NEVER ADDED THAT figure to Obama's enormous
DEBT addition! Obama added nearly $10 Trillion or almost equal to the 5 previous presidents added.
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You’re still lying since you’ve been shown that all of those events under Bush combined still pale in comparison to the trillions of dollars lost under Obama because of Bush’s Great Recession.

And you are DEFINITELY full of crap because AT LEAST I provide links that substantiate my STATEMENTS!
YOU... NOT ONE!
Just ONE event cost $9 Trillion in Market value! The dot.com bust! FACT:

The Labor Department estimates that a net 1.735 million jobs were shed in 2001,
with an additional net 508,000 lost during 2002.
2003 saw a small gain of a mere 105,000 jobs.
Unemployment rose from 4.2% in February 2001 to 5.5% in November 2001,
but did not peak until June 2003 at 6.3%, after which it declined to 5% by mid-2005.

Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia

In 2000, the dot-com bubble burst, destroying $6.2 trillion in household wealth over the next two years.
Five years later, the housing market crashed, and from 2007 to 2009, the value of real estate owned by U.S. households fell by nearly the same amount — $6 trillion.
Adjusted to 2009 dollars, the dot-com crash led to losses of $9 trillion and the real estate crash to losses of $7.1 trillion.
Why the Housing Bubble Tanked the Economy And the Tech Bubble Didn’t

NOW dummy!!! Which is a bigger number: $9 trillion dot.com bust or $7.1 trillion real estate?
PLUS in 2001 to 2002 2.243 million jobs LOST! If you figure each job at the median income $36,219 or $81 billion a year in LOST wages.
That also meant at $300/week paid out in unemployment benefits another $34 billion!
https://www.bls.gov/cew/state2002.txt

Then you dummy ADD the other events: the 2001 Recession THAT STARTED UNDER CLINTON... see dummies like you think recessions are like a water faucet turn on turn off turn on turn off!!! They start many months before the official start date in 3/2001 which would have been just 2 months from GWB taking office!
Then dummies like you ... where were you in Sept 2001 when airlines didn't fly for 3 days! Wall Street shut down for 10 days! AGAIN this event with the others had NEVER been experienced by any President!
Finally you totally ignored the WORST WORSE Hurricane SEASONS!!! $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

And idiots like you compare deficits ran up by Obama as OK? I REPEAT. NO PRESIDENT INCLUDING OBAMA NEVER HAD ALL THE ABOVE EVENTS IN THEIR TERMS.
NEVER! Plus YOU totally ignored the FACT that while GWB had the $1.017 trillion deficit in 2008 $600 billion was TARP and dummy TARP was paid back with profits of $87 billion!
WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS???

 

[joaquinmiller]

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

Dumbfuck!!! that tax cut is for the people Obama ignored....don't tell me it has nothing to do with that fucker....the middle class was sinking...no investments no retirement no jobs...and raised taxes and regulation and a healthcare system no one in the middle class can afford...It has everything to do with Obama...the middle class needed relief...why do you think Trump won? stupid fuck! Why do you want to deny them the relief they most desperately need?
This is the cost of electing a dumbfuck twice that thinks as you do...pay up sucker....

75 consecutive months of job growth, and you post stupidities such as "no jobs". Evidence isn't accepted by the Right.

 

[edthecynic]

They lie...

How exactly can lying be a negative for Donnie Dirt Bag supporters?????????

 

[joaquinmiller]

Adding a trillion dollars of debt per year (on top of the existing debt increases) is your idea of making America great again?

After your man Obama it has to be done...we warned you...he was not spending the stimulus money the way it was meant and now we have to pay...I blame snowflakes like you...

I see now. you’re completely fucked in the head. Now it all makes sense. The tax cuts were not needed. We were already at full employment at just over 4% unemployment.

One of my Senators (R-Insurance) responded to an email, telling me the tax cuts were needed to "jump-start the stagnant economy", when we were at full employment. Complete bullshit.

 

[Faun]

[
That’s because Obama inherited a trillion dollar deficit along with a massive recession and falling revenue which added to it. Whereas Obama handed trump a good economy with rising revenue. There’s no reason for s $2 trillion deficit in a good economy.

Right, but when ISIS barry turned it over to Trump the budget was balanced...

Oh wait, Barry added $10 trillion to the debt and massively increased the deficit.



Li'l Kim, you may be a fraud and a liar, but hey, at least you're a worthless pile of shit.

You know you're insane, right? Obama did not massively increase the deficit. His first budget was shared with Bush because Bush didn't even hand him a budget. Bush signed a continuing resolution for the first half of FY2009. The projected deficit by then was already $1.2 trillion. Obama took over from there. His last budget produced a deficit of $671 billion.

Take notice, in particular, to what Trump's first budget is doing to the national debt. That figure is annualized based on the debt so far this year from (10/1/2017 - 12/31/2017) + (1/1/2018 - current). I separated it by debt increases before and after Trump's tax cuts went into effect.

Total annual debt by budgets:

2001:   133,285,202,313 (Clinton)
2002:   420,772,553,397 (Bush)
2003:   554,995,097,146 (Bush)
2004:   595,821,633,587 (Bush)
2005:   553,656,965,393 (Bush)
2006:   574,264,237,492 (Bush)
2007:   500,679,473,047 (Bush)
2008: 1,017,071,524,650 (Bush)
2009: 1,885,104,106,599 (Bush/Obama)
2010: 1,651,794,027,380 (Obama)
2011: 1,228,717,297,665 (Obama)
2012: 1,275,901,078,829 (Obama)
2013:   671,942,119,312 (Obama)
2014: 1,085,887,854,037 (Obama)
2015:   326,546,285,751 (Obama)
2016: 1,422,827,047,452 (Obama)
2017:   671,455,302,117 (Obama)
2018: 2,173,830,537,327 (Trump - on track)

And Obama had NONE of these events which NO other president has ever faced during their 8 years and totally ignorant people like YOU have forgotten!
PLUS dummy... TARP which made up $600B of GWB 2009 budget was PAID BACK WITH A PROFIT of $84 billion and YOU NEVER ADDED THAT figure to Obama's enormous
DEBT addition! Obama added nearly $10 Trillion or almost equal to the 5 previous presidents added.
View attachment 198971

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You’re still lying since you’ve been shown that all of those events under Bush combined still pale in comparison to the trillions of dollars lost under Obama because of Bush’s Great Recession.

And you are DEFINITELY full of crap because AT LEAST I provide links that substantiate my STATEMENTS!
YOU... NOT ONE!
Just ONE event cost $9 Trillion in Market value! The dot.com bust! FACT:

The Labor Department estimates that a net 1.735 million jobs were shed in 2001,
with an additional net 508,000 lost during 2002.
2003 saw a small gain of a mere 105,000 jobs.
Unemployment rose from 4.2% in February 2001 to 5.5% in November 2001,
but did not peak until June 2003 at 6.3%, after which it declined to 5% by mid-2005.

Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia

In 2000, the dot-com bubble burst, destroying $6.2 trillion in household wealth over the next two years.
Five years later, the housing market crashed, and from 2007 to 2009, the value of real estate owned by U.S. households fell by nearly the same amount — $6 trillion.
Adjusted to 2009 dollars, the dot-com crash led to losses of $9 trillion and the real estate crash to losses of $7.1 trillion.
Why the Housing Bubble Tanked the Economy And the Tech Bubble Didn’t

NOW dummy!!! Which is a bigger number: $9 trillion dot.com bust or $7.1 trillion real estate?
PLUS in 2001 to 2002 2.243 million jobs LOST! If you figure each job at the median income $36,219 or $81 billion a year in LOST wages.
That also meant at $300/week paid out in unemployment benefits another $34 billion!
https://www.bls.gov/cew/state2002.txt

Then you dummy ADD the other events: the 2001 Recession THAT STARTED UNDER CLINTON... see dummies like you think recessions are like a water faucet turn on turn off turn on turn off!!! They start many months before the official start date in 3/2001 which would have been just 2 months from GWB taking office!
Then dummies like you ... where were you in Sept 2001 when airlines didn't fly for 3 days! Wall Street shut down for 10 days! AGAIN this event with the others had NEVER been experienced by any President!
Finally you totally ignored the WORST WORSE Hurricane SEASONS!!! $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

And idiots like you compare deficits ran up by Obama as OK? I REPEAT. NO PRESIDENT INCLUDING OBAMA NEVER HAD ALL THE ABOVE EVENTS IN THEIR TERMS.
NEVER! Plus YOU totally ignored the FACT that while GWB had the $1.017 trillion deficit in 2008 $600 billion was TARP and dummy TARP was paid back with profits of $87 billion!
WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS???
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I’ve given you links in the past. I need not do so again and again every time you attempt that bullshit lie of yours. No matter how many times you lie, the cost of Bush’s Great Recession far outweighs the costs of all the calamities you listed combined... by trillions of dollars.

 

[healthmyths]

They don't trust the MSM because they've been in the tank for the democrats since the late 70's. Foxnews upset the apple cart on October 7, 1996 when it introduced the OTHER side of the news.

They don’t trust the MSM because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear. They trust FOX, even though FOX is the least trustworthy news source there is, and people who watch FOX are the least informed viewers in America, because FOX tells conservatives what they want to hear.

Where is your link saying Fox is least trustworthy? Why in the hell should any one believe you? Where are your facts?
I put up links to the article at least do some scholarly research before spouting a totally unsubstantiated uninformed comment!
GEEZ it is truly people like you that the MSM loves to keep STUPID!

Do you honestly believe there is an MSM conspiracy to keep people stupid?

You mean an organized conspiracy like the :
A Chart Exposing How The Bilderberg Group Controls The Entire World
A Chart Exposing How The Bilderberg Group Controls The Entire World

With the above group of Liberal globalists elites many of whom are part of the MSM that is definitely their mind set.

Did you ever take any journalism classes like I did in college (assuming you went to college)?

The intellectual elite many in the MSM truly believe they are superior in knowledge then the rest of Americans they derisively call "fly over country".
American slang for the states which trendy liberal coast-dwellers see only from the window of an airplane... Flyover Country - TV Tropes

These faux intellectuals truly believe they have to "shape" the news according to their perceptions.

Read this quote from the former editor of NewsWeek a traditional MSM outlet:
Gordon Peterson: "What do you think, Evan? Are the mainstream media bashing the president unfairly?"
Evan Thomas: "Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do almost --"
Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President'

Now I have to point out to you I guess that there was ONLY ONE President during 2007... George Bush would you agree?

So when Thomas says our job is to bash the President...
Pretty damn clear that Thomas says that's what the MSM is suppose to do!

BUT when it came to Obama?
He's standing above us!
Evan Thomas "I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Explain to me then how this hardened editor can present in his magazine any Obama information that is not slanted positively?

I can provide more links showing how the biased MSM attempts to SHAPE the "fly over country" perceptions.

Finally I'm not alone in the disbelief of the MSM output.
The outlook is bad for media credibility. Poll after poll finds public confidence in the press is at historic lows. The AP cites a Pew Research Center report that two-thirds of Americans believe “fabricated news” is causing a “great deal of confusion” about basic facts, and a poll conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago found the percentage of Americans expressing a “great deal of confidence” in the press has fallen from 28 percent in 1976
to just 8 percent in 2016.
The Media Still Can't Figure Out Why They're Losing Credibility

So are you telling me you are part of the 8% that have a great deal of confidence in the press?