You Ever Tell A Little White Lie?

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Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
Nope.

When asked, I always tell my wife that dress makes her ass look big.

(Fairly sure He would overlook some white lies)
 
Nope.

When asked, I always tell my wife that dress makes her ass look big.

(Fairly sure He would overlook some white lies)

I've always wondered...what is the difference in a White Lie and a Black Lie? Is that like white angel food and black devil's food cake?
 
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I'll lie if it suits me to do so. It's not possible to function in any society if you're honest 100% of the time. It's self-deception to claim you're always honest. Most people just don't realize how they lie almost continuously.

"Whatcha doing?"

"Nothing."

In fact, you're probably doing many things when you answered you're not doing anything. Watching tv, looking at porn. Etc. :) But we use the lie to avoid going into our private lives with others. Just snowballs from there.
 
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I'll lie if it suits me to do so. It's not possible to function in any society if you're honest 100% of the time. It's self-deception to claim you're always honest. Most people just don't realize how they lie almost continuously.

"Whatcha doing?"

"Nothing."

In fact, you're probably doing many things when you answered you're not doing anything. Watching tv, looking at porn. Etc. :) But we use the lie to avoid going into our private lives with others. Just snowballs from there.

The ones I really have an issue with are those who don't understand enough to realize or understand that they're lying. Some people think life is nothing but a game when they're young and then they never get over it when they're old.
 
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.

But a little White lie like Linda Blair is not God is OK I would think.









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Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.

But a little White lie like Linda Blair is not God is OK I would think. -

Think?? You had better be sure. Eternity in a lake of fire sounds bad to me.
 
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.

But a little White lie like Linda Blair is not God is OK I would think. -

Think?? You had better be sure. Eternity in a lake of fire sounds bad to me.
 
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.

But a little White lie like Linda Blair is not God is OK I would think. -

Think?? You had better be sure. Eternity in a lake of fire sounds bad to me.

:lol: (laughing with.) Still an Agnostic. Thank you for your time haha.




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Those are some very arbitrary rules your chosen god is making up. What's such a big deal about lying? And why would your god make it so much easier for one man to not lie than another? An Emperor or Despot has no cause to lie, for him there are no consequences; his word is law and he can do as he pleases. But the poor man may have to tell a lie simply to find food and shelter.

And even if a person tells a big lie for no just cause, so what? I'll forgive you for lying to me; I would not punish you forever, so why would a supposedly all-merciful god?
 
Those are some very arbitrary rules your chosen god is making up. What's such a big deal about lying? And why would your god make it so much easier for one man to not lie than another? An Emperor or Despot has no cause to lie, for him there are no consequences; his word is law and he can do as he pleases. But the poor man may have to tell a lie simply to find food and shelter.

And even if a person tells a big lie for no just cause, so what? I'll forgive you for lying to me; I would not punish you forever, so why would a supposedly all-merciful god?

It's sad that some people could use Jesus' words about non-Israelites in the Bible being "dogs" to hurt some people today...I am very sorry if you have had the experience of some insane racist calling you a "dog," somehow relating doing that to Jesus in the Bible.











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Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.

But a little White lie like Linda Blair is not God is OK I would think. -

Think?? You had better be sure. Eternity in a lake of fire sounds bad to me.

:lol: (laughing with.)

Still an Agnostic. Thank you for your time haha. -
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Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
I hear all you got to do to get a free pass is believe a story my ancestors tell.

The Muslims Mormons and Jews have different stories though so choose carefully.
 
the question we should ask the Far left like the op is: do you ever not lie and ever tell the Truth.
 
the question we should ask the Far left like the op is: do you ever not lie and ever tell the Truth.

I'll break the ice with my first true one today:

"You're A Right Wing Ass Hole!!" I'll bet you even voted for that certified idiot, George W. Bush! You know who I'm talking about...the prick who didn't even mention the Iraqi war dead and wounded in his presidential library. It would be like the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor never mentioning that the Japanese were the ones who attacked there.
 
Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.


exactly, "sorcerers, idolators - and all those who love and practice deceit."

Sorcery, (mind control), and idolatry, (worshiping false gods), are entirely about practicing deception. The subject is not about telling a white lie or even a big one in certain situations. For instance the bible clearly shows that deception is an acceptable tactic during persecution and war. And the penalty, exclusion from the city of God, is not about being burned and tortured forever. It means that there will never be a time when such deceptive practices will result in anything other than confusion.

Have a conversation with a sorcerer or an idolator and you will see for yourself that the consequence for disregarding the warning, exclusion from comprehension, life itself, is already in effect and in full force.
 
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Those are some very arbitrary rules your chosen god is making up. What's such a big deal about lying? And why would your god make it so much easier for one man to not lie than another? An Emperor or Despot has no cause to lie, for him there are no consequences; his word is law and he can do as he pleases. But the poor man may have to tell a lie simply to find food and shelter.

And even if a person tells a big lie for no just cause, so what? I'll forgive you for lying to me; I would not punish you forever, so why would a supposedly all-merciful god?

I maintain that all religion is man made consequently most things in the bible would not be done by a true god. The problem is that men wrote that stuff so that others who are desperate will believe it. Take the Mormon faith....written by a convicted con man who had already served time then his golden plates which were presented to him by the angel Mormon mysteriously disappeared. That's OK....Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had nearly 100 young wives between them. Think about that!

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." ~Dr. Albert Einstein~

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding."
~Thomas Jefferson~
 
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Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.


exactly, "sorcerers, idolators - and all those who love and practice deceit."

Sorcery, (mind control), and idolatry, (worshiping false gods), are entirely about practicing deception. The subject is not about telling a white lie or even a big one in certain situations. For instance the bible clearly shows that deception is an acceptable tactic during persecution and war. And the penalty, exclusion from the city of God, is not about being burned and tortured forever. It means that there will never be a time when such deceptive practices will result in anything other than confusion.

Have a conversation with a sorcerer or an idolator and you will see for yourself that the consequence for disregarding the warning, exclusion from comprehension, life itself, is already in effect and in full force.

Lying isn't embraced as OK anywhere that I know of in the Bible...Abraham lied but the Bible says that all have sinned so maybe Abraham's lie was sinful.

Jesus says this about lying in John 8:

John 8:44, KJV
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




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Sounds like that means habitual liars or people who dedicate themselves or purpose themselves to lie ordinarily as an OK practice.


exactly, "sorcerers, idolators - and all those who love and practice deceit."

Sorcery, (mind control), and idolatry, (worshiping false gods), are entirely about practicing deception. The subject is not about telling a white lie or even a big one in certain situations. For instance the bible clearly shows that deception is an acceptable tactic during persecution and war. And the penalty, exclusion from the city of God, is not about being burned and tortured forever. It means that there will never be a time when such deceptive practices will result in anything other than confusion.

Have a conversation with a sorcerer or an idolator and you will see for yourself that the consequence for disregarding the warning, exclusion from comprehension, life itself, is already in effect and in full force.

Lying isn't embraced as OK anywhere that I know of in the Bible...Abraham lied but the Bible says that all have sinned so maybe Abraham's lie was sinful.

Jesus says this about lying in John 8:

John 8:44, KJV
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. -


Jesus, by saying that the devil was a murderer from the beginning and the father of lies he was referring to the story of Adam and Eve where a talking serpent, the nachash, a brazen religious deceiver, tricked Adam and Eve into defying the command of God which caused them to die in the very day that they ate of the forbidden fruit.

As in the book of Esther, deception was sanctioned by God as an honorable tactic when facing persecution and death,

This shows that perjury in the name of God, religious deception, is the subject of condemnation.

This also is what the bible says about deception,


"and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but made sinfulness a deliberate choice."
2 Thessalonians 2:11,12.
 

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