Zone1 the RCC is not from God

Nope it's not a false church, but the Mormons teach a bunch of stuff Joseph Smith invented about the Nephites and Lamanites.
Coptic Church is false. The Church of Jesus Christ is the restored true Church of Jesus Christ. That’s why its name is The Church of Jesus Christ. Because of this, the Book of Mormon is true and thus Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.
 
Coptic Church is false. The Church of Jesus Christ is the restored true Church of Jesus Christ. That’s why its name is The Church of Jesus Christ. Because of this, the Book of Mormon is true and thus Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.

Joseph Smith was a con artist .. a false prophet who invented the Nephites and Lamanites and Jesus traveling to America.
 
If ninja007 took all the effort he spends attacking the Catholic Church and used it for something good, the world would be a better place.
 
If ninja007 took all the effort he spends attacking the Catholic Church and used it for something good, the world would be a better place.

Maybe he thinks Martin Luther or Joseph Smith are better.
 
Coptics are con artists with false leaders who put themselves above God

In Egypt in 42 AD.

 
In Egypt in 42 AD.

Yep! Coptics are probably the first to fall into apostasy.
 
Maybe he thinks Martin Luther or Joseph Smith are better.
A Summary Chart of the differences between Biblical Truth and Catholicism


by Richard Bennett


“Thy Word is Truth”
John 17:17





Biblical Truth
The Light of God’s Word

Topic
New Catechism
Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994)
The Bible only is the Standard for Truth

“....the scripture cannot be broken.” John. 10:35
“Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth.” John. 17:17
“That ye might learn in us not to think...above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs. 30:6
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered...” Mark. 7:13​

The Basis
of

Truth
Truth is based on Scripture, Tradition, and the Pope
Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together and communicate one with the other.” Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) Para 80
And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. CCC Para 81
“As a result the [Roman Catholic] Church...does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.” CCC Para 82
The Supreme Pontiff, in virtue of his office, possesses infallible teaching authority when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful...he proclaims with a definitive act that a doctrine of faith or morals is to be held as such.” CCC Para 891​
Salvation is by Grace Alone Through Faith


Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:24
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: It is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8, 9
“For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.” Rom 5:17
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us...” Titus 3:5-6
“I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Galatians 2:21​
Salvation
by Grace
Alone
For Salvation Grace becomes merely a help and is given through the sacraments of the Church

“Grace is the help God gives us to respond to our vocation of becoming his adopted sons. It introduces us into the intimacy of the Trinitarian life.” CCC Para2021
The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. ’Sacramental grace’ is the grace of the Holy Spirit, given by Christ and proper to each sacrament. CCC Para1129
One who desires to obtain reconciliation with God and with the Church, must confess to a priest all the unconfessed grave sins he remembers after having carefully examined his conscience.” CCC Para 1493​
Faith is the Gift of God and comes by the Word of God
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:31
“For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake.” Philippians 1:29
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:17​
Faith is God-given

and sustained
Faith comes through the Mother Church

It is the Church that believes first, and so bears, nourishes and sustains my faith.” CCC Para 168
“Salvation comes from God alone; but because we receive the life of faith through the Church, she is our mother:...” Para 169
Believing” is an ecclesial act. The Church’s faith precedes, engenders, supports and nourishes our faith. The Church is the mother of all believers. ‘No one can have God as Father who does not have the Church as Mother’” CCC Para 181​
Christ’s Sacrifice was His alone and once offered


“...Jesus said, ‘It is finished:...’” John. 19:30
“But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God” Hebrews 10:12
“...when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;” Hebrews. 1:3​
Christ’s Atonement
Sufficient
Finished
Sacrifice
Christ’s Sacrifice continues, and is also of the Church


In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner.” CCC Para 1367
“The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of the [Roman Catholic] Church. The Church which is the Body of Christ participates in the offering of her Head. With him, she herself is offered whole and entire.” CCC Para 1368​

God is the Only All Holy One and the Only Source of Holiness

Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.” Isaiah. 6:3
“Who shall not fear Thee, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? For Thou only art Holy: for all nations shall come and worship before Thee...” Revelation. 15: 4
There is none holy as the Lord: for there is none beside Thee: neither is there any rock like our God.” 1 Samuel.2:2
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.” Isaiah 42:8​
God, the Only
All Holy
One
Mary is also the All-Holy One and the Source of Holiness

“By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the ‘Mother of Mercy,’ the All Holy One.” CCC Para 2677
“From the [Roman Catholic] Church he learns the example of holiness and recognizes its model and source in the all-holy Virgin Mary....” CCC Para 2030
The Fathers of the Eastern tradition call the Mother of God ‘the All-Holy’ (Panagia), and celebrate her as ‘free from any stain of sin, as though fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature’” CCC Para 493​
In Salvation the Lord Jesus Christ Alone Mediates
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.” 1Timothy. 2:5
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name [Jesus Christ] under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” Acts 4:12​

One
Mediator
In Salvation “Mary” Also Mediates

“Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the [Roman Catholic] Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.” CCC Para 969​
God Hates Idolatry

“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything...Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.” Exodus. 20:4-5

“And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even Ten Commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake...Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure....” Dt. 4:13, 15-16
“Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen” 1 John. 5:21​

Idolatry
The Roman Catholic Church Rationalizes Idolatry

“The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype, and whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it.” CCC Para 2132
“Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified...the veneration of icons - of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new ‘economy’ of images.” CCC Para 2131
This Pagan Practice is Forbidden in the Bible

“There shall not be found among you any one... that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer, [one who calls up the dead].” Deut. 18:10-11

“And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits [divination; contacting the dead], and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people. Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I Am the Lord your God.” Leviticus. 20:6-7​
Communion
with the
Dead
This Practice is Recommended by Rome

Communion with the dead. In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead...Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping “them, bur also of making their intercession for us effective.” CCC Para 958
“The witnesses who have preceded us into the kingdom, especially those whom the Church recognizes as saints, share in the living tradition of prayer...Their intercession is their most exalted service...We can and should ask them to intercede for us and for the whole world.” CCC Para 2683​
 
not compared to the bible its not!
Nonsense. Catholics believe in Christ. You have a different understanding of the scriptures and different interpretations of the Bible than they do. With the evil direction society has taken, those who believe in Christ as the Savior of the World need to stick together. Because more and more young people have been brainwashed to believe good is evil and evil is good. We can’t change anything if we bicker with each other.
 
You think Schofield or Joseph Smith are from God?
Joseph Smith was called by the Godhead to be the Prophet to open up this last dispensation of the fullness of times. Schofield may or may not have been influenced by the Holy Ghost. But not called to be a prophet of God.
I do know Coptics are uninspired followers of Christ. They were possibly the first apostates.
 
Coptic Church is false. The Church of Jesus Christ is the restored true Church of Jesus Christ. That’s why its name is The Church of Jesus Christ. Because of this, the Book of Mormon is true and thus Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.
Not even close to fact. He prophesied falsely, which lead to his followers tarring and feathering him.
 
Not even close to fact. He prophesied falsely, which lead to his followers tarring and feathering him.
There is nothing false about his "Prophecies" when he spoke with "Thus saith the Lord." People often mix up prophets of old and today their "thus saith the Lord" comments and their own personal comments. Only that which is in the scriptures, Bible, Book of Mormon, D & C and Pearl of Great Price is actual doctrine and prophecy. Are the words of our prophets to be followed when it comes to the direction of the Church and the people of the world? Sure! The prophets will never today be allowed to lead anyone astray. So, you are in error. Also, you should not throw stones when your own prophets tried to state exact dates and times 5 times when the world would end.

But, back to the conversation which your comments had nothing to do with, Coptic Christians starting in 42 A.D. were most likely one of the first if not the first to apostatize. So, there belief today that Jesus Christ, the Apostles and Prophets did not prophecy about the future is false too.
 
There is nothing false about his "Prophecies" when he spoke with "Thus saith the Lord." People often mix up prophets of old and today their "thus saith the Lord" comments and their own personal comments. Only that which is in the scriptures, Bible, Book of Mormon, D & C and Pearl of Great Price is actual doctrine and prophecy. Are the words of our prophets to be followed when it comes to the direction of the Church and the people of the world? Sure! The prophets will never today be allowed to lead anyone astray. So, you are in error. Also, you should not throw stones when your own prophets tried to state exact dates and times 5 times when the world would end.

But, back to the conversation which your comments had nothing to do with, Coptic Christians starting in 42 A.D. were most likely one of the first if not the first to apostatize. So, there belief today that Jesus Christ, the Apostles and Prophets did not prophecy about the future is false too.
We all know Jesus and his apostles prophesied, Revelation was the last prophecy given by God. Mr Smith prophecy's were false truth. He said Jesus was coming in 1835= false. But the fact remains it wasn't a false prophecy it was an error because he isn't a prophet.
 
Joseph Smith was not attacked by his follower's retard.
He told them Jesus would return in 1835. In 1832 he told them a temple would be built in Independence Missouri in his generation. 200 years later still no temple had been built. He told them in 1837- The moon was inhabited by men and women who lived to be 1000 years old. He claimed to have seen God( Father) and Jesus. None are truths he told.
 
A bit ridiculous to claim the Catholic Church did not “come from God” when that is what all of Christianity was for 1500 years.
That is not all there was for 1500 years.

There was the persecuted Church in Jerusalem. The cult that became the Catholic Church led that persecution.
 
He told them Jesus would return in 1835. In 1832 he told them a temple would be built in Independence Missouri in his generation. 200 years later still no temple had been built. He told them in 1837- The moon was inhabited by men and women who lived to be 1000 years old. He claimed to have seen God( Father) and Jesus. None are truths he told.
keep lying. Again he was not attacked by his followers
 
We all know Jesus and his apostles prophesied, Revelation was the last prophecy given by God. Mr Smith prophecy's were false truth. He said Jesus was coming in 1835= false. But the fact remains it wasn't a false prophecy it was an error because he isn't a prophet.
He did not say he was coming in 1835. You are spreading falsehoods. That's a sin. Repent. It's a falsehood. Does your ministers teach you to make lies?
 

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